Thats a safety inspection rule , not neccessarily a traffic infraction rule .
Funny i was just over at the zehyrs getting some bread and there was a honduh crv in the lot with its back end facing towards me . crv,s have the spare tire mounted on the rear hatch . Now it is a factory mounted piece , but if you drive into the back of one , that spare is gonna hit high , like over the rad saddle area and take out like the hood or headlights , rad and a/c rad . I have a crv for a winter beater .
Man then it goes even further , one of my buds Dads has a 55 or 56 chebby truck that he put a chrome bumper of some kind on the back , then grafted two of those giant caddyhack chrome bumper bullets onto it . Man they stick out like what 8 inches ???.

Oh  I just checked maps .... Blackstock   is out in the middle of no where , is there even a police force out there . Maybe theyre all just pissed off cause theyre way out there ..77.

-- Edited by 77 on Saturday 17th of November 2012 09:56:49 PM

There sure a lot of trucks around here breaking the law. I guess they have not had the "smash your shin on it" lesson yet.

Wow,, ya know what?? I'm going to start watching this on the OPP and MNR vehichles around here.
They have a number of trucks, SUV's etc that haul boats, trailers etc.

Thanks for the info Pete!

WTF is the difference of a receiver type hitch and a permanently installed bar and ball hitch?....Either one will wipe out your shins....What a pile of bullsh!t......Tax grab.

The rack for the handi cart , on too take the kid too school , then they,d have to remove it in school parking lot to drive home legally ???? .
The number of kids has everything to do with theyre situation , Think about this , both parents work full time jobs , this kid has to go to special therapy class , and cant go to a regular day care centre cause his legs dont work right
A day in the life , rack is on to take kid to school an drop off his cart , remove rack in school pkg lot to be legal to drive to work , leave work , put rack on in school pkg lot , drive him to daycare place , remove rack to drive to other stuff work , pick up other kids etc . go to day care place put rack on it pkg lot , an remember we get snow 4 months outta the yr .take kid home , dont forget three days a weeek after the day care he goes for therapy an muscle training work , rack on an off two more times .
Now picture this , giving that broad a ticket for the rack , holding her up for what 2 hrs on the side of the road , watching her an the kid cry , making them late for therapy appt that they still have to pay for even if they miss , so another kid cant get his spot .then giving them a 150 dollar ticket .A knowledgeable cop doesnt exist , not any where,s around barrie ontario .
Yes I,m sure if they worked a lil bit harder they could afford a real handi van , and circumvent this possible situation , and also make the world safer for idiots who uncontrollably walk into things .
There,s a sliver an green glass top monarch , ( crown vic ???) that comes to the barrie burger cruise night maybe just once or twice a yr . I think from over in the stayner area , has a conti kit mounted to back bumper , sticks out like a foot maybe .
Next thing some clown will petition the feds to have the cow catcher bumpers removed from the fronts of the go trains ha ha .
..77.

I'd sure like to know exactly which law that is allegedly being broken by not removing a trailer hitch receiver. I'm more interested in the wording because this just sounds wrong ... blocking a licence plate with a hitch mounted bicycle carrier I can understand, but just a receiver on its own ... I dunno ...

Neighbour has a 56 Monarch with Cont. Kit but does not stick out past the bumper as the bumper has been extended!!! Yep to be legal thats what they will have to do!! Pain the A$$ but maybe they will never get a ticket, down here it's almost guarranteed!!! Think it would be 10min at road side stop, think the cops care about a crying kid?? NO!! or missing a appointment NO!! I feel for those people BUT if thats the law, then you have to conform, just because it's a PAIN doesn't exempt you!!!!

i asked  a local opp officer i know awhile ago about this trailer hitch law, hes never heard of it and has no rule on his computer for even writing a fine for it.

Fatstax, I also asked a relative who is a Durham Regional police officer and he had no knowledge of this either. That doesn't mean it's not true or a valid law, I'm sure there are so many "laws" to enforce most cops would never know them all. This guy is not stationed in Port Perry, maybe they have less real problems in Port...

i had the officer check his computer in his car and he inquired about hitch regulations and nothing came up, hence he said theres no law he can find concerning trailer hitches.  i dont know how proficient he was in using the cop car computer though

Based on their criteria of "that protrudes in such a way as to constitute a hazard to persons or vehicles", it sounds like we may also be required to remove any and all side view mirrors ... THOSE things definitely "protrude and constitute a hazard to persons".

Here is something else that might be slightly related to this hitch issue .... and I quote ...


(f) no exhaust system shall be shortened or modified from original equipment so as to fail to direct the exhaust beyond the underbody of the occupant compartment or luggage compartment, and in no case shall the distance between the outlet and periphery of the underbody, past which it directs the exhaust, exceed 15 centimetres.


Not sure what the "periphery of the underbody" actually means but anything more than 15 cm is a no-no, probably due to a potential trip hazard. This might also apply to hitches too, sticks out less than 15 cm and you're ok, more than that and you can get a ticket.

I still believe this can be fought and won in court, but that means taking a day off work to book a court date and then the actual court date itself ... the cops know damn well most people will pay it without a fight.

Here's another interesting law ... and I quote

e) no exhaust component shall be so located or unguarded that an individual may be burned thereby on entering or leaving the vehicle

Wonder how the owners of Shelby Cobras feel now, knowing their factory exhaust systems are illegal in Ontario (although they are probably exempt from the law due to the exhaust being factory issued and legal at the time of sale in the 60's but I'll bet owners of kit Cobras could get dinged with this one.

Ain't life in the "free world" just peachy

I wonder if it's illegal to walk around with a hard on these days? Just sayin'

My job description is Compliance Officer for a rather large construction company in Ottawa, which has a number of pickup trucks that also haul trailers. I have addressed the trailer hitch topic with the Minstry of Transportation due to driver concerns, I'm here to tell you what being floated by the sergent is not true. It falls into the same category as driving with bare feet, a wives tale. I would have no problem taking this one to court.

As stated earlier, 611 is the safety certification of vehicles and does not apply in this instance.

-- Edited by Legacy 69 on Sunday 18th of November 2012 10:07:29 AM

With these alleged tickets, there has to be a mention, of the section in the HTA that is being enforced. Never heard of this law, nor is it defined in any HTA documentation that I have, or can source out. Can anyone find it here.

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/english/elaws_statutes_90h08_e.htm

One of the Toronto papers did a story about this "law" and the fact that there is nothing on the books that makes leaving the hitch in illegal.

I will try and find the story, I know they had a huge amount of comments from folks being rather pissed off to have paid the fine.

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I wonder if it's illegal to walk around with a hard on these days? Just sayin'

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         Only it it lasts more than 4 hours...... 

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I enforced those same laws for 23 years and there is NO such requirement in the Highway Traffic Act or its regulations, period! Regulation 611 is a standard for safety inspections only, not for on-road operation. Any officer who claim this nonsense is law is just making up their own rules - ask them to show you the actual section in the Act. Also, that four hour rule doesn't apply in this case - we're talking about the back bumper not the front!

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I enforced those same laws for 23 years and there is NO such requirement in the Highway Traffic Act or its regulations, period! Regulation 611 is a standard for safety inspections only, not for on-road operation. Any officer who claim this nonsense is law is just making up their own rules - ask them to show you the actual section in the Act. Also, that four hour rule doesn't apply in this case - we're talking about the back bumper not the front!

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I thought it sounded like a load of crap ... just as I expected, the Police in Port Perry are counting on most people just paying the ticket without bothering to determine if there even is such a law.  Pathetic and sickening ...

 

 

 

 

 

 

The hitch IS the load I am carrying and my load is secured to the hitch receiver with pin and lock.

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The is about the same stikin' out the front....Oh...sorry wrong forum, no picture.

 

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So, if an exhaust pipe is allowed to stick out up to six inches beyond the "periphery" of the body, I'd say DaveM has a legal trailer hitch. 

Re: The judges don't know the law:

In many cases that is very true as there are hundreds of them, So, before a judge can pass judgement , he has to check out excatly what it says.

There is a "legal" term for that, right now i can't rember what the term is.

Talked to the guys here at work ...they leave the ball and sleeve on 2 trucks ...and they've never been cited ........not even for a hard on lasting more than 4 hours  . Looks like active enforcement is a regional thing from time to time .

Frankly , I wish the cops would just concentrate on the cell phone / texting crowd if they want to do something positive .

 

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