To all, I reside in Oregon USA and attempted to purchase fiberglass parts from Show cars in London. After I prepaid for the parts and frt. a partial order was sent frt collect. I had no choice but to pay yet again the frt bill. I have now been trying for some time to get the balance of the parts owed and or my money back. Can not get either. Has anyone out there tangled with these folks before? Is this normal or is he just screwing me since I am so far away? Is his Company in bankruptcy protection? I am hesitant to go the attorney route but not sure if there is a point. I race an old Cuda and also a Challenger and farm with a 520 hp Cummins 2500 truck. I am pure Mopar but as there were no Mopar clubs in the area I thought I would reach out to the rodder community and see if anybody had any advice for dealing with this guy at Show cars. I have been way past patient with him, literally waiting for months on the parts or the cash back. He apologized when he screwed me on the frt for the nose clip explaining he was short of cash. I have great memories of playing hockey in Ontario and gave him the benefit of the doubt. Shame on me. I still play and would love to invite him out on the ice! Mopar or no car.

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18th of Jul, 2013 by   Eddie Stakes	0 Votes
My own experienece with showcars was several years ago but since someone asked me about a 70 ram air fiberglass hood they saw for sale at a east coast meet summer of 2013, thought I would comment. I have what is probably the ONLY NOS SC/360 AMC Hornet ram air scoop left in existence, only 784 total production of the cars, and less than 1/2 had ram air. I thought this might be a good supplier/vendor to try and sent Rob my NOS scoop, along with a sizable deposit to reproduce some scoops for me as this rare scoop had never been done before. Rob told me they would make a mold and quickly send back my NOS scoop. In meantime my 71 SC/360 was committed to a number of shows, preregistered. Each time I actually got ahold of him was a new excuse, from 'we are short on help' to 'there was a problem with top mold' to 'guy quit on us' or 'we are backed up' after losing all my prereg money I was supposed to be at, and could not show my car with no scoop and tired of the bullsh*t, I called him and said I was going to file theft charges again him in Harris County, Houston, Texas for the amount of scoop and money sent. We are the death capital of the world here so that got his attention. There would be a open warrant for his arrest in US if he stepped foot out of Canada into US. It had been EIGHT MONTHS of bullsh*t and while I am a patient man, that was crap. He called me back same day with tracking number and told me the scoops on way. It was the worst AMC experienece with any vendor or supplier I have ever had in 30 years in business. I have never sent any other AMC person his way knowing they would experienece the same 'send me the money, then wait for eternity' issue. I didn't have issue I may add with the scoop itself, just I do not like being lied to repeatedly and is the only time in my 30 years of AMC business I have EVER had a problem like this with my many suppliers. So I won't, and don't use them anymore. I told the fellow who emailed me about a 70 ram air hood in fiberglass he said he saw at a summer's meet to simply google "showcars body parts complaints" and watch it light up like pinball machine. It ain't only me, a whole lot of people out there have had a most unpleasant experienece with this place thru years. Eddie Stakes Planet Houston AMX www.planethoustonamx.com

Sad situation John, hopefully you can get something out of them.

And Welcome to Ontario Rodders.

The cheque in his name is more then likely the government or someone seized his bank account. With the new privacy laws its almost impossible to find a personal account without you telling them were it is. Still a good sign somethings not right

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Lightspeed Mike wrote:

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If this is the same company that 427 CARL posted he is only about 15 minutes away form me. I have heard nothing but bad things about him.
PM me

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     is he the guy up here in my area mike?

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I am sure he is, I saw him not long ago. He's renting the building in behind the Maxwell paper building in Foxboro.

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funny , but yrs ago , like 20 , O bought a glass fender off him . it was mint , but I went an picked it up an paid cash for it , on the spot .. But haver heard alotta bad story,s over the yrs ..77.

Lightspeed Mike wrote:

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If this is the same company that 427 CARL posted he is only about 15 minutes away form me. I have heard nothing but bad things about him.
PM me

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     is he the guy up here in my area mike?

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To all, I reside in Oregon USA and attempted to purchase fiberglass parts from Show cars in London. After I prepaid for the parts and frt. a partial order was sent frt collect. I had no choice but to pay yet again the frt bill. I have now been trying for some time to get the balance of the parts owed and or my money back. Can not get either. Has anyone out there tangled with these folks before? Is this normal or is he just screwing me since I am so far away? Is his Company in bankruptcy protection? I am hesitant to go the attorney route but not sure if there is a point. I race an old Cuda and also a Challenger and farm with a 520 hp Cummins 2500 truck. I am pure Mopar but as there were no Mopar clubs in the area I thought I would reach out to the rodder community and see if anybody had any advice for dealing with this guy at Show cars. I have been way past patient with him, literally waiting for months on the parts or the cash back. He apologized when he screwed me on the frt for the nose clip explaining he was short of cash. I have great memories of playing hockey in Ontario and gave him the benefit of the doubt. Shame on me. I still play and would love to invite him out on the ice! Mopar or no car.

Go Leafs

John Bailey

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parklane wrote:

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 Just to let you know John, That if we go East to see you, we're taking the llooonnnnnggggg way around. Try West

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 I'm thinking that John has had a few Hockey concussions and he thinks that we are in Ontario California.

Here is some more reading on Showcars screwing people:

http://forums.h-body.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=33923

http://forums.h-body.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=36577

http://forums.h-body.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=35361&start=0

http://forums.h-body.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=26301&hilit=showcars

In the last thread, the moderators removed all the pictures. Too much vendor bashing I guess. Never heard a good thing about them.

I stopped in and saw Rob in Foxboro The other day. He seems like most other Fiberglass guys I have met. They all seem to be Great fiberglass guys who are better at glass than business. I walked around his storage yard and was blown away on the number of parts and molds he has. There are racks and racks of parts and molds stored outside. I asked if he has everything cataloged but he said no. I don't know how he can know what he has or find anything. There were several treucks parked there with faded paint and peeling Showcars Lettering. They look like they havent moved in a while. The building he uses in Foxboro is more for storage as I understand it and he is doing his production in Toronto. Rob told me the municipality was after him in Foxboro and so he had to stop producing there. He also had a hard time keeping labor in Foxboro. He lives in Toronto and spends a few days a week in Foxboro. Kind of a funny setup but i guess his Rent is cheap as it would cost a fortune to rent room to store all those molds and parts he has in Foxboro.

Did this outfit work out of Bolton north of Toronto years ago? The ads and site look pretty well identical. The manner in the way they operate is pretty similar.

Thanks for the info,looks like a road trip is in order to Foxboro.

Rob Johnston and Roy Johnston(Rob's dad) used to run "The GLASSWORKS" in Bolton, My dad and I used to bring nice rustfree sheet metal and rustfree bodies to them....After 6 trips to Canada from Atlanta, Georgia, We called it "quits" because we weren't making very good money for the trouble of finding and carrying the parts to The Glassworks. I personally haven't had any problems with Rob or Roy Johnston, But, I did get the feeling that Rob was a little "Shadey". But that's my impression ..... I hope everything works out for all the people who were "Taken". Good Luck!!!

I met this guy at a Toronto car show probably 14 years ago. Seemed like a good guy. I needed a rear bumper cover for my Trans Am and he said he has a few of them. I ordered one but it never came. It took me 6 months before I got my money back.

lowlife scum bag thief, they screw the wrong person and get theirs one day

good practise before buying from anyone is to google the company name before sending big $$

I saw Rob at the Tuesday Cruise Night in Belleville. He was going car to car handing out a flyer. I didn't see what it was about but Since his car was plastered with anti Liberal, Anti Wind energy labels I suspect that is what it was. I have talked to him on the subject and he is deep into anti Government and thinks Wind and Solar energy is a scam and not worth the power it costs.

He is interesting but definitely a little strange. I cant say I know he is ripping people off but I would be very leery dealing with him after what I have seen and learned.

The only way I will deal with Rob at showcars is if he has the part I want in stock - you hand me the part, I will hand you the cash. There is no other way to deal with him. I personally know of several people he attempted to rip off.

Crap. I have never dealt with him but I'm p--sed I hate these cowboys

I saw he was at Armdrop on the weekend with all the same stuff from Stirling.

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I asked him at the Armdrop what he was doing about Oregon and got the finger and he walked away.

Warren

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 HAHAHA !! Good job !!He probably get's hassled all the time, and it's well deserved.

the finger , that's a pretty rough reply coming from a guy that's all about God on his site , maybe he,s one of those hippycrytes ??..77.

That's real funny Dan, but isn't far off what he looks like...