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PRINCE EDWARD COUNTY, ONT

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My best friend Keith and I are building a nostalgia altered powered by a 261 Chev/Pontiac 6 cylinder.  He built the chassis at his home in Haida Gwaii, I joined him to finish it to this point and then I brought it back to Ontario to do the drive train. 

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Looks like fun.

Any idea what the horsepower/finished weight/expected times are?

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Nice work. Will be a"Fun Ride".



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Very nice    I love the choice of Power...

 

 

 

 

 

Haida Gwaii
Archipelago in British Columbia, Canada
Haida Gwaii, formerly known as the Queen Charlotte Islands and the Charlottes, is an archipelago on the North Coast of British Columbia, Canada. Approximately half of its population is of the Haida people.Wikipedia
 
Elevation1,164 m
Area10,180 km²
Population4,761 (2008)


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Probably weigh in around 1700 pounds. Those 261s are heavy, you know. I'm bumping the compression, hopefully get it up in the 10 range, running a McGurk roller cam, triple carbs and build some headers. I want to port and polish the head, but that will have to wait. Might see torque at 260 and maybe HP at 300. Just hoping. Was going to run a powerglide, but an anemic engine like this needs a little more first gear, so have decided on the TH350 with a 3500 stall. Was also hoping to run the Armdrop this year but circumstances say next Spring.

Not a whole lot more will happen until Aug./Sept.

Warren

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427CARL wrote:

Haida Gwaii

Archipelago in British Columbia, Canada
Haida Gwaii, formerly known as the Queen Charlotte Islands and the Charlottes, is an archipelago on the North Coast of British Columbia, Canada. Approximately half of its population is of the Haida people.Wikipedia
 
Elevation: 1,164 m
Area: 10,180 km²
Population: 4,761 (2008)

 

 

I looked it up too, almost sounds like it would be in Cambodia or something similar  biggrin



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HEY WARREN : That doesn't look like any 261 that I have seen --( How about a 292 ?? ) Love the concept and your workmanship ---- being an INLINER as well , it's all great -- Keep us informed -- LATER -- DON / Fleet 51

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Don

You are absolutely right. Keith was trying to get a bit of mock-up to get proportion. Trust me, there is definitely a 261 going in. By the way, I've been waiting since about Jan. 21 for Patrick's to get my parts and they still don't have them and every time I call, it's like starting over. He may be a good 6 cylinder guy, but he's a terrible business guy. Chatter on line will attest to that.

Warren



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fleet 51 wrote:

HEY WARREN : That doesn't look like any 261 that I have seen --( How about a 292 ?? ) Love the concept and your workmanship ---- being an INLINER as well , it's all great -- Keep us informed -- LATER -- DON / Fleet 51


 Thats a 292 in the picture for sure .



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Looks real good Warren. Love the drag link.

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nice little project warren, that should be alot of fun. tire size ?



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slim wrote:

fleet 51 wrote:

HEY WARREN : That doesn't look like any 261 that I have seen --( How about a 292 ?? ) Love the concept and your workmanship ---- being an INLINER as well , it's all great -- Keep us informed -- LATER -- DON / Fleet 51


 Thats a 292 in the picture for sure .


Warren, have you talked to Tom Langdon in Michigan in regards to your 261 parts? He could be helpfull.

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Just picked up an adaptor to run a GM V8 tranny behind the 261 from Tom Langdon. He is really the one who convinced me to go with the TH350. I basically am dealing with all the suppliers, Langdon, Carter, Chevs of the 40s, Patricks and Larrowe. The problem here is not the parts, despite the scarcity, they are out there. My main concern is getting a balance of weight, power and gearing to make this car fun.

Regarding the 292, Keith is a 6 cylinder guy running everything from 235s to 301s to 292s. We made the decision to use the 261 for two reasons, to run nostalgia in several areas, you can only run engines that were available before 1962 and also when I built the Bantam in 1965, I built it with a 261, so I am biased.

Warren


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Got the Bantam home and unloaded today. It was at Randy's getting a firewall and wheel wells. Looking a little dishevelled but we'll get that straightened out. The front axle is on backwards in case you are wondering.

Warren

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looking great


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Looks great Warren.

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Hey Warren,

here's some inspiration. Real 351 Boos and a C6. We built this one in the late 60's.  The Gramada Brothers from Windsor own it and brought it to the party 2 years ago

 

 

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chips wrote:

 

 

I looked it up too, almost sounds like it would be in Cambodia or something similar  biggrin


 As opposed to Vancouver which LOOKS like Cambodia.awwawwaww



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It's been 10 months since the last update so what's new you ask? Well, we spent 7 weeks down on the east coast and then I went out to Edmonton for 8 weeks to build a new store for my daughter. In November we bought a house in Picton to extensively renovate so it has been tough to get at the Bantam. But last week, Keith, my partner on the project came in from Haida Gwaii and we got a fair bit done. I have been procuring pieces since the last post and it was time to start putting them together.

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made up some motor mounts, similar piece on the engine using poly bushing

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got the rear tranny mount installed, changed the original and installed floor braces.  panels will go in after engine/tranny installed

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front driveshaft hoop to protect the vitals

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Been trying to figure where the shifter should go, this feels perfect

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a good sturdy push bar, hope that cable is long enough to reach the 1/4

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the transmissions view of the whole thing

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the helmet bars were installed and the chassis painted

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It's all starting to take shape, the Ansens on the back with the 8.2 slicks and the reworked Harleys on the front

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Joey Ukrop posted this on the HAMB.  Joey was kind enough to put me in touch with Lynn Goodfellow, the owner.  We had a great chat.  This car has been owned by Lynn since 1958 but not driven much, he pulled it out of the barn last Summer.  This is pretty well what we were after.

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Things should be happening at a quicker pace now.  The engine will be ready this week, the transmission (TH350) has been reworked.  Pretty well all the pieces necessary to finish are now in the shop.  Looking forward to running at the Armdrop this Spring.

Warren



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Very nice.

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Very nice work wuga! Love how the car is taking shape...very cool!

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A bit of an update, got the chassis cleaned up and painted.  Lawrence Roblin rebuilt the rearend and brakes, Lightspeed Mike made up some cover plates for where the water pump and thermostat housing were.  Got the roll cage padding installed and the Wayne valve cover and side cover installed.

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Had a shorty 7" driveshaft built by Driveline in Whitby.

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The timing mark on a 261 is located on the flywheel and timed by a needle located on the bell housing.  Since a new adaptor and TH350 were installed, it was necessary to fabricate this timing pointer.

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It was decided to use the original Bantam rad which was rebuilt by EDJ rads in Frankford.

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A transverse cooler for the transmission was installed below the rad.

 

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Something always interferes

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Plumbing is simple and a small electric pump will be installed in the upper hose.

Warren



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Impressive...Race Car.

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Very cool build . ....... But Ummmmm solid rear axle = padded seat cover maybe ??

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Nice

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Nice work Warren look forward to seeing it in action.


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Looks awesome! Might actually make it over to check it out some time this year.

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Where we are today

The body is out getting painted, should be back this week.   Once it is mounted, then all the lines, fuel, tranny cooler, electrical, wiring, throttle, shifter, oil filter etc. can be mounted.  Not sure if we'll be ready to go racing May 20.

Warren

 

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Looks great Warren.

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