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NIAGARA FALLS, ONT

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Grumpsbodyworks wrote:

Too bad you didnt come to ancaster...there was abunch of us Ontario Rodders that would have had a whack of questions for you

Heck...even Janice shut down the RED LIGHT DISTRICT in South River to come down. She even brought her best customer...Art

Truely amazing work Nick......you are the ENZO of ontario

Its soooooo good....I cant even make Jokes about your build!



-- Edited by Grumpsbodyworks on Tuesday 29th of October 2013 02:29:41 PM


 Dang, wish I could have made it to the meet...those used to be my old stomping grounds when I was going to school in Hamilton. 

The last time I met a fellow Ontario Rodder was at Canal Days in Port Colborne.  Great experience to put a face to a handle/username.  biggrin

Thanks for the thumbs up again.



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Hi invision , just looked at your entire R2 build thread  ,again very awesome work,,, when you started  your r2 build,  did  you start with drawings and blueprints u designed ,  and have your initial plans changed along theway as r2 has progressed    thanx   KEV



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Hi invision , just looked at your entire R2 build thread  ,again very awesome work,,, when you started  your r2 build,  did  you start with drawings and blueprints u designed ,  and have your initial plans changed along theway as r2 has progressed    thanx   KEV


 Hi Kev,

Yes, I did start with a rendering and full size scale drawings of the side, front, rear and top.  You can kinda make out the designs mounted on the 'build-board' in the first few photos of the thread. 

As the buck was being built from these blueprints I made a few dimensional changes...1/2 inch here or there... but nothing too serious.  Then as we progressed into the sheet metal stage there were a few reflections I didn't like so a few more adjustments were made.  The build is a dynamic and emotional thing.  Whenever I create something I don't build the drawing...I build the vehicle.  It not only has to look right from 3 feet away, but also from 500 yards.

Thanks very much looking. smile

 



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Kev, here are a few photos I dug out ... showing the early days of when this project started.  The mobile "build-board" can be seen in the background.

20 minute mock-up placing key components on the frame-table before anything really started.  Anyone who's built a hot rod/custom can appreciate the excitement of this stage....

... at this point the thoughts usually change to "ohh L0rd, what have I gotten myself into"...

Fun times!



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i hope you sat in the mock up and made some car engine noises like you were driving it. 



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Most definitely ... "Vroooom!!! vrooom!!" 



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Marking out the passenger side door jam for the hinge pocket.


Keeping the zip disk on the inner black sharpie line the hole cut out nice and clean.


After de-burring the edges a little - this will be used as a template for the other side.


Piece from the passenger side flipped horizontally and traced.


Again, staying on the sharpie line, the hole is made.


Now it's time to make the hinge pocket. You'll see why we're going through all this once the hole for the hinge arm is created.


Welding continues on the rear hatch structure...


Cleaning up the welds


Running a long board over the panel with some course paper shows up the highs and lows in the metal. These areas can now be planished using on and off dollie techniques to bring up the low areas and lower the high areas.



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Thanks for posting Nick . Nice work with the Zip , 4 1/2 " not the easiest animal to control on anything fine as always you make look simple



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NIAGARA FALLS, ONT

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Thanks Slim! Yeah, that puppy can be a bit of a challenge to maneuver at times.... Really need to brace your hands and take the cuts slow.

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x2.
Always look forward to your build posts.

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Thanks very much Ms. J!

Early next week I should have some sketches posted on my fb page of the roadster that's in the works. Will also probably start a new thread here if there's enough interest and member's want to see another build.

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Are you kiddin me???? If theres enough interest????

If you don't....there's a whole lot of Ontario Rodders that will HUNT YOU DOWN!

POST AWAY !

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As always Nick, your work is impeccable.
Of course we'll look forward to your next build.

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Thanks Gents!

However, you guys may "hunt me down" anyway ... after you see where I'm going with the '32 Ford design...  Just sayin' wink 

 



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Don't make us hunt you down  NICK!!!!!!

 

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Un less its the new big red car for the wiggles



-- Edited by slim on Thursday 28th of November 2013 10:10:54 AM

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Wow. That pink thing is FUGGLY!

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Sumthin' just doesn't seem 'right' with that ride Slim! Can't seem to put my finger on it though.....

Guess at times a sharp stick in the eye IS better at times......


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invision wrote:

Sumthin' just doesn't seem 'right' with that ride Slim! Can't seem to put my finger on it though.....

Guess at times a sharp stick in the eye IS better at times......


 Good you passed the test. We wont have to hunt you down..smilesmilesmile



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Slim love that Pink 32? Great job so far Nick.



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Thanks Mark!

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Some progress on the door hinge brackets.

The hinge bracket geometry can get a little tricky...


Translating dimensions to the second hinge.


Cutting a few tacks to make adjustments on the hinge.


Work starts on the body’s rear structural webs…tying together the rear wall, rockers, wheel wells, and upper structure.


….2 Per side - 4 webs in total


Passenger side webs mocked up so that the bridging pieces can be made.


After the bridging templates are created they are transferred to sheet metal where appropriate flanges are marked out.


Offset flanges are created with the tipping wheel to allow the pieces to interconnect with each other.


First pass though shapes the piece…second pass through will smooth out the highlight reflection…


Lower wheel is changed to a skateboard wheel to create the side flanges.




Once all the pieces are run through the tipping wheel they are put into the shrinker/stretchers to bend them into their appropriate locations.


After about 30 minutes or shrinking/stretching the pieces are in place… ready for final tweaking to smooth out any deviations in the corner highlight and welded.


Pieces are removed, tweaked, plug holes created and welded together…except for the top allowing the part to be inserted.




All the welds are smoothed out.


Taking a break from grinding the structure - making another list for details that still need to be finished before primer is applied.


The body is really starting to take shape – even though it’s only the structure. It'll be a shame to cover all this fabrication up with the exterior panels.


Cool sparks! Hiding under the car – to finish welding the floor pans.


Finding some areas that weren’t welded earlier.




Body structure ground, washed, sanded, washed again and getting prepped for primer.




Interior looks quite bare…at least at the moment.


Shooting the structure with primer is next.

Thanks for checking out the progress. smile



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What did you use to wash the body down? Phosphoric acid?? Just curious..

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Washed it with the usual degreaser we use when prepping bare metal for primer. I tend to stay away from acid washes. Seen a number of cars that have been dipped...only to have the acid seep out of hems and joints down the road after all the body work and paint has been competed. Not a pretty sight... :(

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invision wrote:

Washed it with the usual degreaser we use when prepping bare metal for primer. I tend to stay away from acid washes. Seen a number of cars that have been dipped...only to have the acid seep out of hems and joints down the road after all the body work and paint has been competed. Not a pretty sight... :(


 Yeah, I know what you mean. I had my car dipped, but they used ( I think ) nitric acid, and it's a bugger to remove it all. Phosphoric acid is basically the active ingredient that's used in etch primers. I use it to etch the metal before epoxy, and so far have not had any issues. We need more pictures !!



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Hi Nick. watching your post for some time now and I have got to say you are one very talented individual. Really enjoy your pics and updates. Still don't understand how you can bend ,shrink and stretch the metal the way you do. Very enjoyable reading your posts. After 4 attempts at making a custom breather for my buick I have come to the conclusion that Im not very good at metal forming. I see you have an ad for your services so I most likely will look you up in the new year. Looking forward to your next set of pics...




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Yes Nick, I pronounce you...... the metal whispererbiggrin.

Thanks for taking the time to post pics and explain your work. 

Janice 



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janies dirty 37 wrote:

Yes Nick, I pronounce you...... the metal whispererbiggrin.

Thanks for taking the time to post pics and explain your work. 

Janice 


           AGREE, ^^^  You are the MAN!



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Thanks very much Guys and Gal!

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Beautiful work, the detail is amazing and your craftsmanship is incredible.

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Thanks Dave!

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Hi Everyone!  Hope the new year finds you guys well.

Here are some more photos of the build...

Shooting the first coat of 2k epoxy starting from the inside areas and working out.




Mixing up a rather reduced gun of 2k Epoxy allows it to seep into most of the joints and crevices. Working systematically soon all the bare metal will be sealed up.


Then, after a few more coats of regular consistency epoxy, R2’s structure looks quite different.




Getting some 2k primer on areas of panels that'll be hidden from view once installed.




Door shells and hood structure also have some primer on them and set aside... for now.


Thanks again for looking.



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Cant wait to see finished ride.
Great work as always.

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Are you sure the pink 32 isn't the mock up for glens  new ride?

Thought maybe he is trying to match his pink gay pride van!!!



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janies dirty 37 wrote:

Cant wait to see finished ride.
Great work as always.


 

Thanks Ms. J!

Yeap, me as well! 



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34guy wrote:

Are you sure the pink 32 isn't the mock up for glens  new ride?

Thought maybe he is trying to match his pink gay pride van!!!


  ah?  did I miss something along the way?  It's been known to happen ... quite often actually ... disbelief



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Some work that was done on the front end.


This bracket ties together 3 crucial areas: front body mount; hood trough; and inner fender. It also acts as one part of the headlight mount.

Structural web installed using a jig that references the frame table and outer headlight mount.


Jig removed and headlight ready to be mocked up.


Tacking together pieces that make up the door hinge arm.


Hinge arm cooling after being welding complete.


Grinding begins on the hinge arm.


Resuming where we left off a while ago with this door, the passenger door is reassembled without the shell.


Swinging the hinge up checking to see that we have the appropriate clearances.



-- Edited by invision on Friday 21st of February 2014 08:36:50 AM

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Its hard enough to make a door work on a singel axis..... 2 axis is even more of a challenge....great work Nick!

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Thanks!

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You've heard it before and I don't want you to have a hard time fitting your head through your work shirt......but WOW

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Yeah, topless wouldn't be too convenient anyway ... especially while welding. 

Thanks very much Ms. J. biggrin

Shop time is my favorite time... hammering away on these projects with my Dad.  I've mentioned it before, but basically I'm an extension of him and been his shadow since I could walk.



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Treasure the time you have with him for sure.

My Dad was my start as well. Gone to soon. But lots of good memories and lessons learned I carry on. He is still with me that way.smile 



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Oh my Lord, you sir have no fear at all. I love this build. I just can't get over the stuff I've seen on this site since I've joined. I'm learning things and every turn. thank you so much for sharing your craft.

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Astounded!
I've been around cars my whole life and have never seen anything like this.
Many many thanks for taking the time to document and share your build with us.
There's lots of guys that would rather not share their expertise. You're doing us quite a service.

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Thanks guys!

I consider myself very fortunate to have met so many great people here on the forum that support my madness. Since it's kinda difficult for us to meet up as often as we'd like, sharing what I'm up to using this medium would be akin to you guys dropping in and pulling up at a stool at the shop.

Guess that thought goes for everyone who has an ongoing build in the project section, finds something amusing to share or simply needs to vent as well. smile

 



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Hey..were getting restless....any updates on your 2 projects????

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Great postings and great progress, thanks for the neat updates.

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I LOVE your job! I wish I had that combined talent and vision. Thanks for sharing.

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Nick,your work is Fantastic Cannot wait to see the finished product.



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Amazing talent...

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Thanks very much Gents!

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