Legendary Motor Cars

Pint and a Pound · AJAX, ONT

Legendary Motor Cars

VirgilHilts · BELWOOD, ONT

Last time I was there ( a few years ago) they had a really nice Duece roadster with a flathead. It was the last time I saw my old racing buddy the late Tom Hnatiw ( Dream Car Garage host) Haven't been for a while maybe I'll stick my head in as I drive right by it on my commute to TO

That Boss 9 is bad ass BTW I LOVE grabber orange!

-- Edited by VirgilHilts on Thursday 25th of October 2012 06:18:47 PM

Pint and a Pound · AJAX, ONT

Hemi43 ... where was that last pic taken? Is that a local show or is that something like SEMA?

Mmmmm, gonna sleep good tonight ... had a "pint and a pound" at the Portly Piper tonight .... what a great finish to a great day .... nite all (jeeze, sounds like an episode of Mr. Rogers)

I should also add, thanks for the pics 69SS454

-- Edited by Pint and a Pound on Thursday 25th of October 2012 08:57:31 PM

69SS454 · MILTON, ONT

Live about ten mins from them and stop in from time to time. Here are some pics taken awhile ago since ^^^ didn't bring a camera and this post is usless without pics...Just Kidding

Enjoy

hemi43 · ONTARIO

My Avatar was taken in front of Legendary.

hemi43 · ONTARIO

VirgilHilts wrote:
Last time I was there ( a few years ago) they had a really nice Duece roadster with a flathead. It was the last time I saw my old racing buddy the late Tom Hnatiw ( Dream Car Garage host) Haven't been for a while maybe I'll stick my head in as I drive right by it on my commute to TO

That Boss 9 is bad ass BTW I LOVE grabber orange!

-- Edited by VirgilHilts on Thursday 25th of October 2012 06:18:47 PM

Yup, Tom was an awesome guy !! Never met Peter Klutt (sp?) but never heard anything good.

hemi43 · ONTARIO

Pint and a Pound wrote:
Hemi43 ... where was that last pic taken? Is that a local show or is that something like SEMA?

Mmmmm, gonna sleep good tonight ... had a "pint and a pound" at the Portly Piper tonight .... what a great finish to a great day .... nite all (jeeze, sounds like an episode of Mr. Rogers)

I should also add, thanks for the pics 69SS454

-- Edited by Pint and a Pound on Thursday 25th of October 2012 08:57:31 PM

Yeah, it's that small show called SEMA !

Been 3 times, and it should be on everyones bucket list.

Torquewar · DORCHESTER, ONT

I do have to make it there, would love to see the facility and some rare muscle. The cars are mostly museum quality and will never have chunks of rubber stuck to the painted wheelwells or quarter panels.
Got to respect the craftsmanship. Yes SEMA is another place to go one day.

DaveM · ONTARIO

SEMA in two words.... sensory overload!

-- Edited by DaveM on Tuesday 30th of October 2012 05:09:21 PM

Pint and a Pound · AJAX, ONT

I just got in tonight from picking up the wife from the GoTrain in my 30's coupe ... didn't matter that it was raining, it needed a wash anyhow :)

I drove my coupe out to Legendary in middle of the week, mid-day 401 traffic, and on a Saturday from Durham Region, I hooked up the trailer and hit St. Clair and Avenue road for a load of interlocking stone a week or two ago with it, hauled my neighbours broken down Kawasaki Ninja with it a couple days ago, hooked up the 12 foot boat and drove the 3 1/2 hrs to the family cottage with my car three times this year ... I am the first to agree that cars (that I own at least) were built to be driven and dammit they WILL be driven. (I should add that it ain't pretty looking but it IS pretty cool being out on the road as much as it is).

However, I am also a fan of musclecars and exotics and roadracing and love to dream of taking that Pagani around Mosport for some quick (in my mind at least) laps. I would love to tool on down the road in a HemiCuda rag or a LS6 Chevelle rag or possibly that Boss 429 too as well as a Viper GTS or maybe a Ford GT or perhaps a Lamborghin Murcielago. I am certainly not in the market for anything Legendary has on display, but I do enjoy seeing them up close (and letting the little boy in me day dream too). I was at Autofest several years ago with a ProStreet Chev and was bidding on the BF Goodrich banner featuring the lime green HemiCuda, the other guy I was bidding against saw what I pulled up in and thought I was nuts ... why would a "Chevy guy" want a Cuda banner ... my answer "I am not a Chevy guy, I'm a car guy.

Anyhow, the reality is they don't seem to stock any rods. They mostly have exotics, musclecars, and classics.

I must state one more thing as absolute FACT .... if I win the LottoMax $50 mill you WILL see those cars on the road :) (well, except for the Pagani, it isn't street legal).

-- Edited by Pint and a Pound on Tuesday 30th of October 2012 08:37:45 PM

dualquadpete · BLACKSTOCK, ONT

Many yrs. ago my car club was going to have a cruise from our show in Cannington to Legendary but we found out on calling ahead the admission fee was steep & none of the car owners wanted to go !!! We called the Guild in Bradford, & made arrangements to go there "FREE" Everyone seemed to enjoy the tour there, & there were a few "BURNOUTS" on Yonge St when we left [did I say that out loud]

Pint and a Pound · AJAX, ONT

I've been twice. The first time they had a little box by the front desk that requested a $5 donation that would be going to charity. This last time (my second obv) I saw the little box and donated $5 for me and handed my father $5 to deposit/donate ... I did not read the box this time, I just assumed it still stated "for charity".

Interestingly, my first visit was on a Saturday and (as stated on their site) they gave everyone in the building a guided tour with the guide explaining what each of the separate shops are used for (metal fab, paint etc) and answered all questions.

In my opinion $5 very well spent. The Pagani Zonda R is one of 15 made, the only one in North America, the only one made with a polished carbon fiber body (the others are matte) and the actual one that set the record at the 'Ring in Germany. I'll be going back too ... just can't get enough of that car. (now if I can only find out when the owner of the Pagani is renting Mosport).

Not sure what the steep admission fee is all about unless they were going to be serving/catering a lunch for you guys.

Grabrr · LONDON, ONT

Last time I was there, it was called "The Shelby Shop"...

dualquadpete · BLACKSTOCK, ONT

This going back to the 80's & I think it was 'something like 10 or 12 bucks a head?? & most of the car people "balked" at it!!!! $5;00 likely would have worked!!!

workin class · FINCH, ONT

Not being a muscle car or investment car guy do they have any Hot Rods.

Gearhead · ELORA, ONT

I was there between the Shelby shop era and what it is today. Might be time for another visit. I have to say I don't have the want for any of their cars. Just not practical to own something I cant rack miles up on, leave in the rain, abuse, get dirty...etc. I think that muscle cars as investments is a risky game and has likely seen its peak.

Gearhead · ELORA, ONT

Pint and a Pound wrote:
my answer "I am not a Chevy guy, I'm a car guy.
-- Edited by Pint and a Pound on Tuesday 30th of October 2012 08:37:45 PM

I totally identify with that statement. I'm a huge late 60's - early 70's Mopar fan, but dig models from all other brands - I'm not brand loyal and dont understand those that are. I get the fact you might like a certain make's period styling or work from a certain designer, but to be a one brand man is odd to me. I worked with a guy who lived in a Ford bubble....could never understand the reasonings behind his horse blinders to everything else...

If its mean & nasty and goes like hell, I like it

427CARL · CLINTON, ONT

Thanks for the photos and stories

Looks like a awesome place I used to watch their TV shows

I'd love to go I would pay 20.00 for a tour

Picasso · TORONTO, ONT

Over the years I have had some dealings with Peter Klutt, none of them favourable, back as far as 'The Shelby Shop' off Dixie Road :( Even when I was working at Performance World Car Show and at Mosport, I found him to be aloof and difficult to talk to. I know many people in car clubs and the industry and they have said the same thing. He's okay in front of a camera but not face to face.

I wonder why Tom Hnatiw left the show. It's sad that Tom passed away, he was a great guy! I talked to Tom many times about everything from model cars to race cars and he was always friendly and easy to talk to.

As for the museum, I think the entrance fee should be listed on the website and it is not. The cars are parked too close for a good look and a clear photo.

69SS454 · MILTON, ONT

Picasso, I cannot comment on Peter but Legendary is not a museum but a working showroom. The $5.00 fee is a donation to the Bread Bank. Yes it is pretty hard to get a good look around the cars but it is still a great way to spend a few hours on a rainy afternoon. A lot of the cars they sell are pretty rare and you will not likely see at local car show. I think if you wanted to get serious about buying they would pull out whatever car you were interested in and take you for a test run. I might go back next week and take the Zonda out for a spin...lol. Enjoy

Pint and a Pound · AJAX, ONT

Picasso wrote:
Over the years I have had some dealings with Peter Klutt, none of them favourable, back as far as 'The Shelby Shop' off Dixie Road :( Even when I was working at Performance World Car Show and at Mosport, I found him to be aloof and difficult to talk to. I know many people in car clubs and the industry and they have said the same thing. He's okay in front of a camera but not face to face.
I wonder why Tom Hnatiw left the show. It's sad that Tom passed away, he was a great guy! I talked to Tom many times about everything from model cars to race cars and he was always friendly and easy to talk to.
As for the museum, I think the entrance fee should be listed on the website and it is not. The cars are parked too close for a good look and a clear photo.

I can't comment on the first part of this post due to the fact that I have not had any interaction with Peter Klutt. I went to see the cars ... if Klutt is a total tool, it didn't affect my visit at all. I will say that the person hosting the tour on my first visit was very knowledgable, very friendly and answered all of my many questions.

Yes, the majority of the cars at Legendary are parked close together ... but they don't list their showroom as being a museum. This is a business that buys, sells and restores cars ... good for them (in this economy of otherwise) being busy enough that the cars need to be parked that close together.

The entry fee goes to charity, it is requested but not mandatory (or that is certainly what the sign stated on my first visit, I did not read the small print on my second visit) I simply "donated" and enjoyed the experience.

I'll definitely be going back.

oldkoot · BROCKVILLE, ONT

My experience with Peter dates back to when he first started up using a line of credit against his house in Streetsville, never any problems, very nice guy and straight up. Bought and sold him a number of cars over the years, started when he was in Misissauga, then when he moved to his first shop in Milton when it was across the road from the auction, been to his new place a couple of time, stopped in over Christmas in 2006 and he took the time to give us a full tour knowing full well we weren't a buyer at that time.

VirgilHilts · BELWOOD, ONT

Met Peter,quite a few times and remember the Shelby Shop when it was a unit in Mississauga and Chris Simon was a partner and body man there. Peter seemed okay to me but I never had any business dealings with him but I'm sure he has to suffer plenty of fools in his line of work too...It's his livelihood not just a hobby.

Pint and a Pound · AJAX, ONT

Just got back from another trip to Legendary Motor Cars (sorry, once again no pics). The car I most wanted to see was there, the Pagani Zonda R but there was another absolute stunner parked just behind the Zonda ... an original Ford GT40 (painted in the shell racing colours), this was not a Ford GT from 2005 but an original true 289 powered GT40. The first one I have ever seen in my life. Damn was that one sweet.

Plenty of others to see as well, including FIVE original Shelby Cobras, 340/shaker, ragtop Challenger, 2 1940 Ford Deluxe converts, COPO 427 69 Camaro, etc etc .... I love visiting that place.

RacerRick · TORONTO, ONT

I used to live in milton and have been to the old shop but not the new.

I have dealt with both guys on occasion and don't have anything bad to say about either. But Tom was a real car guy and would stand there and talk to you. Peter was always all business.

Every now and then, they would drive out some of the cars to the local Canadian tire car show. Pretty cool when three REAL cobras come rolling into the show together. I don't know if they still do that at all.

Chris Stapley · CAMPBELLFORD, ONT

I don't know about the no rubber stuck to paint part? I had a friend from town who used to drive the transport and on weekends Peter would let him

drive cars around town so one weekend he came to my place in a Boss Mustang and ............. the stripes out in front of the house were there for a good

long time.

Torquewar wrote:
I do have to make it there, would love to see the facility and some rare muscle. The cars are mostly museum quality and will never have chunks of rubber stuck to the painted wheelwells or quarter panels.
Got to respect the craftsmanship. Yes SEMA is another place to go one day.

FYN RYD Customs · OSHAWA, ONT

I have met Peter Klutt and I have to say, he is not your car guy that you hope to meet.

I had spent my younger years watching dream car garage, and when I opened up my first automotive resto shop in Burlington, we ended up doing very well as we did very high quality work. Peter had made the trip out to my shop to ask us to sub contract for them. Our shop rate was reasonable for the trade and he just continually tried to cut our prices down, but not in a pleasant way. He was very arrogant about his approach and it was as if he was famous and everyone should bow down to him. Well needless to say I rejected his offers and he took off in his brand new Porsche.

So I guess that's just my opinion.........

hemi43 · ONTARIO

FYN RYD Customs wrote:
I have met Peter Klutt and I have to say, he is not your car guy that you hope to meet.
I had spent my younger years watching dream car garage, and when I opened up my first automotive resto shop in Burlington, we ended up doing very well as we did very high quality work. Peter had made the trip out to my shop to ask us to sub contract for them. Our shop rate was reasonable for the trade and he just continually tried to cut our prices down, but not in a pleasant way. He was very arrogant about his approach and it was as if he was famous and everyone should bow down to him. Well needless to say I rejected his offers and he took off in his brand new Porsche.
So I guess that's just my opinion.........

HAHAHA !! Doesn't matter who you speak to, they all feel the same about Klutt. His original partner before Legendary is an acquaintance of mine, and he had nothing good to say about him.

FYN RYD Customs · OSHAWA, ONT

Yeah, seems to be the normal feeling. On a brighter note, I met Tom years ago and he seemed like a great guy, too bad he's not with us any more.

I would like to throw in some business here if I may.

If anyone is looking for a complete hot rod servicing shop at a fraction of legendary pricing, give me a call and we can take care of all your hot rod needs.

Thanks.

Ryan.

FYN RYD customs oshawa,

905-621-8410

hemi43 · ONTARIO

Where in Oshawa?

Ziggy · TRENTON, ONT

hemi43 wrote:
Where in Oshawa?

490 Waterloo Court

hemi43 · ONTARIO

Is that the shop in the east building?

Ziggy · TRENTON, ONT

not sure. I just looked at his intro and copied the info from there. Never been there myself.

FYN RYD Customs · OSHAWA, ONT

We are unit #1 , if you are on Waterloo, its 490 waterloo Crt. we are the 1st unit closest to the street.
We are just moving in this week, and are scheduled to start next Wednesday.
If you have any questions, give me a call 905-621-8410
Or email info@fynrydcustoms.com.
Thanks

godabitibi · New Member

Hi, I just found that site and read this thread. I want to comment about Peter Klutt and clarify some things.
I've known him for close to 30 years now since the very biginning of his first shop in the single unit he rented on Britannia near Master Steaks and runway 66 by Dixie road. I sold and bought cars from him and even worked for him at the second shop in Milton.

As far as I know Peter never had partners in his business but employees. Chris Simon is there and still there since the biginning and I think a lot of the business quality credit came from Chris passion for the Mustangs and Shelby in the early years of the business. Dave who is now almost running the business himself started to work there at the age of 16 cleaning the shop on weekends. I've had fun working with them and others that were there at the time.

Peter love cars, he's a real car guy but also a business man. He went to school in administration and marketing. He started his shop from his passion by his own taking a mortgage on his first house when he was in his early 20s. If you're not a real car guy you don't name your son after a Mustang designation. YES! KGT for the Mustang K code GT. Klutt G.T.
When he bought his first real 1965 AC Cobra 289 he arrived at the shop with the car and had to leave for other things to do and told us ''if you want to go out with it for a test drive you can''. Chris and I jumped in the car and we went four our first drive of a REAL Cobra.

He has had the guts to push hard and believe in his dream. He's not were he is today because he had a rich dad who left a nice business to run. He built it over the years with hard work from scratch. I remember when I went to visit the actual building when it was Under construction and I told him '' this is a huge investment, the business will have to work to be able to pay for that'' and he answered me'' it will work!!''

He now own what I think is one of the nicest restoration and collector car facility in the world. He worked his way up the ladder to become what he is today. To achieve this you have to be hard sometimes and he may have step on some toes to do it. You can't please everybody!

He's now in the big league and has to follow for the business to live.
When you meet him you don't know what is in his head at the moment, he may be calm and relax and have time to talk. Or he may be in a very busy period and running like hell to get everything scheduled in time for this and that.

I've been there sometimes and he had no time to talk to me and some other times he was relax and could talk we me. This is life.

I personally think he is a nice guy but also a business man. I'm proud of what he achieved as a Canadian in the car business.

Some may be jealous of what he is today and they express it in their way. Or they just don't like the way he is.

Just my opinion.

-- Edited by godabitibi on Thursday 25th of September 2014 09:31:33 PM

v8deuce · OAKVILLE, ONT

Welcome to the site godabtiti but your first post should have been an intro telling us about yourself. Having said that I do agree with you as I live close and go often to see whats new there. As far as Peter is concerned he has always been great when I stop by,always has a minute to listen to your "I remember" story.My brother raced in the Players Challenge series that GM sponsored along with Players cigarettes,we had a great time and Peter had (has) one of the cars on display upstairs.When I moved from BC a few years ago I had my 32 roadster shipped there and was treated great from Chris. As you can see by the post dates, the outspoken one is not here anymore but it is nice to hear from someone like yourself that has positive info on someone in our community! Looking forward to more posts from you.

Randy

godabitibi · New Member

Hi Randy, thanks for your comment.
Well here is my introduction

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I'm a car guy since I was a kid. I bought my first car at age of 16 and totally customized it. It was a 1975 Comet GT with a 302. 112,000 miles that I paid $175. I've then been a lot in the Mustangs and Shelbys for many years and that is how I've come to meet Peter and Chris. I've owned almost all of them from the 289 1968 coupe to the GT500KR convertible and the 1971 429CJ. But no Boss 429

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When the muscle car business skyrocketted I started to buy the more affordable cars that were the unaffordable when new. I now more in the Ferraris. I own a 1977 308GTB of the first serie with 4 twin ventury webers and a 1990 yellow Testarossa. I also have a 1980 black on red Corvette that is Under resto since many years. I'm too lazy to finish it!

I'm a mechanic and also do bodywork and I've always done my resto and some for friends of mine. I'm now teaching mechanic full time for my 18th year.

I now live in north of Québec very close to Ontario border.(lake Abitibi)

Fordy Acres Car Farm · DORCHESTER, ONT

Gearhead wrote:
Pint and a Pound wrote:
my answer "I am not a Chevy guy, I'm a car guy.
-- Edited by Pint and a Pound on Tuesday 30th of October 2012 08:37:45 PM
I totally identify with that statement. I'm a huge late 60's - early 70's Mopar fan, but dig models from all other brands - I'm not brand loyal and dont understand those that are. I get the fact you might like a certain make's period styling or work from a certain designer, but to be a one brand man is odd to me. I worked with a guy who lived in a Ford bubble....could never understand the reasonings behind his horse blinders to everything else...
If its mean & nasty and goes like hell, I like it

Hey, I resemble that remark! ...But seriously, I do look at, photograph, and appreciate the other brands....a lot!!! I like them all! 4 doors, wagons, hot rods, muscle cars, trucks and I like them in all genres too: Drag, auto cross, pro street and pro touring, shop truck or what ever!

It's just that there are so many way cool Fords out there, many that I haven't even had a chance to own yet, I just don't have the room or appetite for any brand "X" cars.

DJD · SCARBOROUGH, ONT

lol , you ^ sound like a hot wheels collector trying to finish one set before moveing on to start collecting another

I'll say one thing about brand loyalty , it means you just might already have a part when it's needed , either in the collection pile or on something your not driveing

I myself have a basement full of '70's ford truck , 66 coronet / charger and a large collection of '80's fwd turbo dodge 4 cylinder stuff - that kinda took over back in the 90's

oddly I always had the most fun with the fwd dodge stuff and reciently got back into it again with the intent of building something out of my collection
hell I even just spent some fairly large coin on a one of four chrysler prototype transmission , brand new and still in it's original shipping crate

if you knew fwd dodge transmissions like I do you would know they all need to be rebuilt so being brand new means a lot

I'm a car nut too , there is something from every brand I like but I don't love everything from just one brand
sadly though most of the "cool" stuff I can't afford but going with one of the most under rated car types makes things affordable - and satisfying when I can honestly say I never got beat by a punk in a 5 liter mustang back in the day
and even made a late 90's vette look way way over priced