Project vehicles??

slab · BRANT COUNTY, ONT

Project vehicles??

flatduck · SUDBURY, ONT

why does everybody want projects and i want a turn key driver ? and i have to many projectsssssssssssssss

-- Edited by flatduck on Saturday 27th of October 2012 03:59:02 PM

dualquadpete · BLACKSTOCK, ONT

Picture 401.jpg Picture 402.jpg I asked this over at Cdn. Poncho & thought I'd give my thoughts on this topic. I think these vehicles are becoming harder to sell, talked to a fellow south of my town with a early 50's Ford P/up project that he said has brought no interest or calls, I said "i think the days of project vehicles is coming to an end, as you can buy a turn key for less than it costs to buld one,especially with the economy the way it is!!! Case in point,this Packard that I saw in Charleston W V this mth. I don't think you could buld it for asking price & likely get it for less than that as the owner said it was a dead mrkt. & no $$$ floating around!! Also the age of buyers [me] is getting up there & time & health "hamper" building another one, last one tool 3 yrs, & if I do it again in that time frame I'd be close to 69 when it's done!!!!

poncho62 · ADMINISTRATOR

People are being tight with their money in the US right now.....probably due to the election. Waiting to see what happens before they commit any money to extras.

dualquadpete · BLACKSTOCK, ONT

Harry, it's been tough down there for the last 4 yrs. or so, don't think it's "all" about the election, but even here there seems to be nothing selling in the classic cars over the 15 grand mark & most are under 10G's for drivers Projects that I see for sale just aren't going anywhere, ie 2 to 4 grand & then your looking at another 10+ to sort of have it too "driver" stage when you could have bought the same thing for around 12 to 15!! I've always been a 'builder" but now I'm looking at dollars & "sense"!!!!!! PUN intended

dualquadpete · BLACKSTOCK, ONT

Richard, just looking at those pics. of the Vette, you'd have over 15 G's in it & maybe more when done, rad supt. looks rotted out, needs complete interior, don't know if engine & trans. are 'pooched" + Paint job ++++ whatever else is missing or 'screwed" & it's a 12 grand car on the best of days & in really good restored condition!!!

poncho62 · ADMINISTRATOR

flatduck wrote:
why does everybody want projects and i want a turn key driver ? and i have to many projectsssssssssssssss

-- Edited by flatduck on Saturday 27th of October 2012 03:59:02 PM

So...sell one to Pete.....CHEEEEEEEEEEAP

flatduck · SUDBURY, ONT

lolllllllllllll i m not sure what Pete want he has 2 cars already

flatduck · SUDBURY, ONT

i don t think he ll sell the white Pontiac

flatduck · SUDBURY, ONT

i had a 58 Pontiac real cheap but he didn t want it lollllllllllll

dualquadpete · BLACKSTOCK, ONT

flatduck wrote:
i don t think he ll sell the white Pontiac

He might!!! or "trade off" for equal car. I've had the 64 since 01 & thats why thinking it's time for a change??? appraised at 20G's but know it will only bring around 16 on the market. Pete

flatduck · SUDBURY, ONT

it prove that the tittle of your post is truth Pete i can buy your car for almost cheaper than what any of the project i have will cost when they are done .....i think you could give a project car and yet the restoration will still come higher than the worth

Lil John · UDORA, ONT

Pete's right. My health isn't good so I bought a driver at a good price. This spring my wife and I did the interior ourselves. Some of the the work we can do, but to build another one now, I don't think so. It hurts to buy one built when all of your others were built by yourself. We just gotta swallow the lump and have fun with what we got, and I do.

Jazz · THUNDER BAY, ONT

I think there is a larger market for turn key,,not everyone has the time and resources to build there own,,not to mention a certain level of insanity required to do a complete frame off.. I saw this running truck for $800 while looking for a tractor,,surprised it has not sold due to how great condition the truck is in

http://thunderbay.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAdLargeImage?AdId=412593056&ImageIndex=2

Rochie · LONDON, ONT

I've had this for sale for a 3 months now . A lot of interest but nobody wants to go to the bank.

Gearhead · ELORA, ONT

You mean this one?
http://guelph.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-classic-cars-1946-International-Pick-Up-Truck-W0QQAdIdZ396232177

Sweet truck and real nice price. I agree that it would cost significantly more to restore one, but there's a catch; I can afford $800 for a running, solid starter and can throw coin at it as it happens. I don't have enough "play money" to buy a nice finished driver or older resto, nor will I entertain the idea of monthly payments to have a toy. Besides, half the fun is restoring/building it myself.

I wouldn't start a build knowing it was gonna cost me $10-20K more than what it was worth in the end mind you, because like you said, I might not keep it forever

dualquadpete · BLACKSTOCK, ONT

Times are "tight" for buying TOYS!!! That certainly doesn't look like a project car!!! It's also tough to sell a car near the end of the season, buyer doesn't get much use out of it & has the cost of Insurance &storage if no spot at home for it!!!!Spring ie the optimum time!! Noticed in Old Autos the # of cars up for sale now & wonder if their selling them off for winter, some maybe due to emmission regulation & want to dump them while they can??? or some "look" like get rich quick dreams!!! Good luck on selling the Ford, looks like a pretty decent car, Selling price??? Pete

Iwannagofast · ONTARIO

Thought I'd weigh in on this. I enjoy taking a vehicle from junk to spunk but it takes time, as $$ is always diverted elsewhere. Speaking of $$, those with it seem to be keeping it. Each Canadian Thanksgiving weekend my family and I host a Craft Show (O'Shavings Country Craft Show for those interested, hope you don't mind Poncho) on our property in Vineland. This past year in particular has been a tough on for the Crafters and this year's show proved that point. The general public are watching their nickles and dimes more today than ever and who can blame them. Same goes in the hot-rodding world. Sure, there's a few out there with bottomless pockets who'll have "XYZ Rodz" build them one vehicle after another. Then there are the rest of us who do what we can when we can - and that can be buying affordable turn-key or like myself, plugging along as cash allows. But as long as we have a collective interest our hobby stays alive.

dualquadpete · BLACKSTOCK, ONT

That int'l truck is "solid" but look at it realisticely?? needs total resto & either a box found for it or build a flat bed!!! It may run but you still have to pull the d/train & go thru it,& detail engine bay while it's out, all new glass & weatherstrips, Interior, re wire & Body & paint wheels & tire + all brakes etc.3 to 5 yrs. of labour if you can do it all yourself??? Doubt it!!! your going to have close to 9 to 10grand in it, if not more!!1 What's it worth when done,depends on what kind of a resto you did & workmanship & who wants it?? 2 What could you buy one allready done??? or nearly done that you can put your 'touched' on it!!!!

Gearhead · ELORA, ONT

Nah, if that International truck was close to me, I'd be all over it. I've had an '87 chev shortbox in my garage under the worlds longest resto. The reason its taking me so long is that I don't want to throw tons of cash into a truck that wont fetch what I've got into it. I wish that I started with a classic truck (as opposed to one that isn't a classic truck yet) so that it would have been a little closer to worth what I had invested in it. I've decided to see my project through because It's worthless unfinished.

dualquadpete · BLACKSTOCK, ONT

Theres a 1946 Intnl. P/up for sale on KIJIJI "Done" appr. at 13000 & sale price of $8500 bone stocker & real nice truck, & 2 late 40's hot rod Intn'l in the $12000 range!! You really think you could do this truck for less than that???? All of these have been there for awhile & some have been 'bumped up" again by changes in add??? If you have no plans on selling then "dump" as much as you want into it, but there comes a time when it will have to go!!!! Thats when you hope things pick up again in the economy, right now & near future "don't look too good" Pete

Sacotu · COBOURG, ONT

Gearhead wrote:
Nah, if that International truck was close to me, I'd be all over it. I've had an '87 chev shortbox in my garage under the worlds longest resto. The reason its taking me so long is that I don't want to throw tons of cash into a truck that wont fetch what I've got into it. I wish that I started with a classic truck (as opposed to one that isn't a classic truck yet) so that it would have been a little closer to worth what I had invested in it. I've decided to see my project through because It's worthless unfinished.

when i started on my 55 gmc it was an old truck. because i took so long its now a classic. i was talking to a young fellow at timmies couple of weeks ago that had a 87 chev truck. really nice original. i told him when i bought my truck it was 30 years old and his is 25 now.

dualquadpete · BLACKSTOCK, ONT

You can sometimes 'think" that you can do it on "budget" but usually you hit a BIG snag once you get into doing your project. In my case on the 52 it was hidden body repairs from IONS ago!!! I knew I was into floors, any "blind man" could see that, but the 1/4's looked not bad!!! WRONG & the cost of panels & fabing up inner whl. wells etc put me way over what I had in mind. I have a stack of invoices from NAPA, KarBelt, Sumitt etc. that I haven't added up & likely won't!! I bought the car at a good price & figured on "finished" around 15 g's & did 90% of the work myself. Just adding in my head the "Major" expenese's It's closer to 25!!!! So it doesn't matter if you "throw money" a little at a time [ which I did over 3 1/2 yrs] or do it all at once the total is "STILL the SAME" I could have bought one for about 10Grand less!! Yes I enjoyed the build, [sometimes] & swore a blue streak when things didn't go as planned, I'm proud of how it turned out BUT if I used my head back then i would have bought a turn key & had 3 1/2 yrs more fun of driving it!!!! OH Ya, haven't included the numerous cases of BEER the were consumed, that could "DOUBLE" the cost pete

Gearhead · ELORA, ONT

Sacotu wrote:
Gearhead wrote:
Nah, if that International truck was close to me, I'd be all over it. I've had an '87 chev shortbox in my garage under the worlds longest resto. The reason its taking me so long is that I don't want to throw tons of cash into a truck that wont fetch what I've got into it. I wish that I started with a classic truck (as opposed to one that isn't a classic truck yet) so that it would have been a little closer to worth what I had invested in it. I've decided to see my project through because It's worthless unfinished.
when i started on my 55 gmc it was an old truck. because i took so long its now a classic. i was talking to a young fellow at timmies couple of weeks ago that had a 87 chev truck. really nice original. i told him when i bought my truck it was 30 years old and his is 25 now.

well, thats another reason I've decided to carry on. No more E tests (I hope) and its technically a classic at 25(?). Picking up another box for it in the next few weeks

Gearhead · ELORA, ONT

dualquadpete wrote:
the 1/4's looked not bad!!! WRONG & the cost of panels & fabing up inner whl. wells etc put me way over what I had in mind.
it doesn't matter if you "throw money" a little at a time [ which I did over 3 1/2 yrs] or do it all at once the total is "STILL the SAME" I could have bought one for about 10Grand less!! Yes I enjoyed the build, [sometimes] & swore a blue streak when things didn't go as planned, I'm proud of how it turned out BUT if I used my head back then i would have bought a turn key & had 3 1/2 yrs more fun of driving it!!!!
OH Ya, haven't included the numerous cases of BEER the were consumed, that could "DOUBLE" the cost pete

No kidding - This "free", "little bit rusty" truck educated me - I realized that rust is at least 3 times worse than it appears at first look.

If I had cash for turnkey, I'd spend it AND keep a project. Truthfully, when my project gets finished, I'll spend much, much less time tinkering (reduced to washing, waxing, oil changes....meh!!) I'll likely turn it over for yet another project. Yes...I AM retarded.

And yes...the beer costs. The great budget inflator & productivity killer....