what is a bare 283/327 block worth

Pint and a Pound · AJAX, ONT

what is a bare 283/327 block worth

scott420p · BRAMPTON, ONT

If that 327 is a large journal forged crank casting# 3914672 it can be worth good money to the right person. It can be cast with that part number also you'd have to check.

-- Edited by scott420p on Saturday 5th of January 2013 06:38:30 PM

Sacotu · COBOURG, ONT

a good friend of mine passed away recently and he left the widow a mess of automotive crap all over the place. she has asked me what some stuff is worth for her to sell. i said i would ask. the 327 is worn out and basically is a core and crank, it came out of a 67 texas chev 1/2 ton. the 283 is almost complete but is also worn out, it comes with block, crank, heads, oil pan and i think pistons and connecting rods. i know know probaly not much but with the emission nazis in ontario the older cores must be worth something? i know he also has a busy bee lathe, i'll find out what model first.

poncho62 · ADMINISTRATOR

With heads...Probably a couple of hundred a piece as cores......maybe a bit more for the 327...my opinion anyways

Sacotu · COBOURG, ONT

all i'm gonna tell her is a high and a low. also has a 235 that burns oil came out of a 57 chev truck

Pint and a Pound · AJAX, ONT

Interested in hearing some info on the Busy Bee lathe. Be sure to post the size and price when you get a chance biggrin

fatstax · COBOURG, ONT

i asked the guy who built my engine last spring pretty much the same question, he said if you are building a car that requires a 283 or 327 to be correct then thats fine but those engines have small journals and are not ideal for performance or durability. those engines ae likley valuable to the collectors or car restorers

Pint and a Pound · AJAX, ONT

Were all 327's small journal's? I haven't hit google yet but I kinda think some were big and some were small.

Sacotu · COBOURG, ONT

i'm figuring if someone is going to build a motor and want to keep the emissions nazis off their back these are what you would want to start with.

as for the lathe - Crafttex Metal Lathe Model #B2071

Pint and a Pound · AJAX, ONT

scott420p wrote:
If that 327 is a large journal forged crank casting# 3914672 it can be worth good money to the right person. It can be cast with that part number also you'd have to check.

-- Edited by scott420p on Saturday 5th of January 2013 06:38:30 PM

So .... if the crank actually IS forged ... do they still call it a "casting" number or is it actually a "forging" number? biggrin (I'll be here all week folks).

poncho62 · ADMINISTRATOR

327s only had large journals for 1 year...1969......After that the 327 was dropped in favour of the 350

Gearhead · ELORA, ONT

Pint and a Pound wrote:
scott420p wrote:
If that 327 is a large journal forged crank casting# 3914672 it can be worth good money to the right person. It can be cast with that part number also you'd have to check.

-- Edited by scott420p on Saturday 5th of January 2013 06:38:30 PM

So .... if the crank actually IS forged ... do they still call it a "casting" number or is it actually a "forging" number? (I'll be here all week folks).

Still a casting number - both are a casting, forging is a secondary process to the casting

scott420p · BRAMPTON, ONT

poncho62 wrote:
327s only had large journals for 1 year...1969......After that the 327 was dropped in favour of the 350

Thanks always nice to learn more about the sbc. I just knew that the large journal forged were around.

Sacotu · COBOURG, ONT

scott420p wrote:
poncho62 wrote:
327s only had large journals for 1 year...1969......After that the 327 was dropped in favour of the 350
Thanks always nice to learn more about the sbc. I just knew that the large journal forged were around.

so small journal then, it was a 67

fatstax · COBOURG, ONT

ah yes engine guy did tell me there was a large journal 327, that would be a desirable engine for sure

poncho62 · ADMINISTRATOR

Small journal 327s were built from 62-68....in 69. they used the large journal crank, so those are quite rare. I think for a street engine journal size makes little difference

fatstax · COBOURG, ONT

when ur handing the ricer fags thier a$$es you need all the help you can get, i wouldnt want a small journal holding my banger back

427CARL · CLINTON, ONT

Sacotu wrote:
a good friend of mine passed away recently, and he left the widow, a mess of automotive crap, all over the place.

Sorry to hear of the loss of a friend Its great that you are able to help..........

Rochie · LONDON, ONT

I have a small journal 327 under the bench right now. It has a 283 crank in it to make it a 302. As mike said, those things will rev like crazy...all day long. Now IF I was going to build a blower motor or stuff a bunch of nitrous down it's throat, I would want a large journal 4 bolt. Buy as was said above a 2 bolt small journal will live quite well as a street strip motor.

BY the way here's some help in determining exactly what she has.

http://www.nastyz28.com/sbcmenu.php

http://www.nastyz28.com/gm-chevy-codes/chevy-engine-codes-suffix-7.php

Ragtop · BELLE RIVER, ONT

I've had a bunch of those and always felt the small journal cranks spun up easier - we had a 283 punched to 4" with a stroker small journal crank and roller cam and lifters back in about '68 in a stock car - that thing ran over 9000RPM all night long and never busted. I loved that motor. Also had some small journal 327s in a '67 Vette and a few hot rods and never had a bit of trouble with any of them.