Superbirds --- daytonas

hemikev · HAMILTON, ONT

Superbirds --- daytonas

atomsplitter · NEWCASTLE, ONT

A guy in West Hill (Scarborough, near Manse and Coronation area) had a "Robbins Egg Blue" Super Bird. I think that colour, on that car, put me off Mopars for life!

hemi43 · ONTARIO

When I lived in Scarborough (UGH) a friend of mine on the street next to us bought one. I'm gonna say this is around 1982 because I had my Road Runner. He found this car in a barn, and it was painted silver and (sit down for this) someone had put huge front and rear fender flares on it. He brought it over to my house the day he bought it, and it looked hideous !! It had a 400 with a 4-speed. We deciphered the VIN and fender tag and it was actually a 440 six-pak 4-speed car. The car was actually very solid, and he restored it back to new. I remember in order to finance this car, he offered to sell me his 71 Road Runner 440+6 which was in excellent condition for $2800 !! I kick myself to this day for not buying it.

Atomsplitter mentioned one near Coronation and Manse, but the one I remember from that area was black. This was around 1979 and I went to school with the owner's Son.

-- Edited by hemi43 on Tuesday 9th of April 2013 09:21:12 AM

hemi43 · ONTARIO

Kev, I know you like documents, so here's a list of the Daytonas that were sold in Canada.
Note that most of the VINS are sequential. Interesting smile

1 XX29 L 9B 414619 W Kingston Chrys / Dodge Kingston Ont. 6/27 Export 610 BX 926164 21 C3529
150 XX29 L 9B 414620 W North Bay Chry / Ply North Bay Ont. 8/25 Export 610 BX 926165 21 C3587
396 XX29 L 9B 414621 W McCallum & Wilson Oakville Ont. 9/3 Export 610 BX 926166 21 C3969
161 XX29 J 9B 414622 H Argyle Chry / Dodge Ltd. Cooksville Ont. 8/26 Export 610 BX 926167 21 C5506
162 XX29 L 9B 414623 W Argyle Chry / Dodge Ltd. Cooksville Ont. 8/26 Export 610 BX 926168 21 C5506
392 XX29 L 9B 414624 W Argyle Chry / Dodge Ltd. Cooksville Ont. 9/3 Export 610 BX 926169 21 C5506
393 XX29 L 9B 414625 W Argyle Chry / Dodge Ltd. Cooksville Ont. 9/3 Export 610 BX 926170 21 C5506
313 XX29 L 9B 414626 W Ecclestone Motors Toronto Ont. 8/29 Export 610 BX 926171 21 C5667
314 XX29 L 9B 414627 W Paul Willison Toronto Ont. 8/29 Export 610 BX 926172 21 C5558
315 XX29 L 9B 414628 W West End Chry / Dodge Weston Ont. 8/29 Export 610 BX 926173 21 C5570
163 XX29 L 9B 414629 W West End Chry / Dodge Weston Ont. 8/26 Export 610 BX 926174 21 C5570
119 XX29 L 9B 414630 W Jim Priest Motor Co. Scarborough Ont. 8/24 Export 610 BX 926175 21 C5571
367 XX29 L 9B 414631 W Bay King Motors Hamilton Ont. 8/30 Export 610 BX 926176 21 C5651
206 XX29 L 9B 414632 W McManus Motors London Ont. 8/27 Export 610 BX 926178 21 C5809
120 XX29 L 9B 414633 W Gardner Motors Sudbury Ont. 8/24 Export 610 BX 926179 21 C5880
316 XX29 L 9B 414634 W Westworth Motors Hamilton Ont. 8/29 Export 610 BX 926180 21 C5916
394 XX29 L 9B 414635 W Babin Auto Ltd. Montreal Que. 9/3 Export 610 BX 926181 22 C9630
121 XX29 L 9B 414636 W Capitol Dodge Ottawa Ont. 8/24 Export 610 BX 926182 22 C5944
164 XX29 L 9B 414637 W Drummond Auto Drummondville Que. 8/26 Export 610 BX 926183 22 C4511
122 XX29 J 9B 414638 H Savaria ET Fillis St. Jerome Que. 8/24 Export 610 BX 926312 22 C3414
397 XX29 J 9B 414639 H Robt. Bedard Auto Ltd. Mont Laurier Que. 9/3 Export 610 BX 926313
258 XX29 L 9B 414640 W Garage Rosemont Montreal Que. 8/28 Export 610 BX 926314 22 C4633
165 XX29 L 9B 414641 W Trans Island Motors Montreal Que. 8/26 Export 610 BX 926315 22 C4790
259 XX29 L 9B 414642 W Cyrville Chry / Dodge Ltd. Ottawa Ont. 8/28 Export 610 BX 926316 22 C5550
19 XX29 L 9B 414643 W Cornwall Chry. / Plym. Cornwall Ont. 8/19 Export 610 BX 926317 22 C3595
166 XX29 L 9B 414644 W Trois Rivieres Trois Rivieres Que. 8/26 Export 610 BX 926318 22 C3411
167 XX29 L 9B 414645 W Lucerne Auto Candiac Que. 8/26 Export 610 BX 926319 22 C4537
25 XX29 L 9B 414646 W A & L Robert, Inc. Montreal Que. 8/20 Export 610 BX 926321 22 C4538
317 XX29 L 9B 414647 W Ruest & Arsenault Rimouski Que. 8/29 Export 610 BX 926322 22 C4959
398 XX29 L 9B 414648 W Beupre Auto L'Ange Gardien Que. 9/3 Export 610 BX 926323 22 C4525
123 XX29 L 9B 414649 W Central Garage Atholville N.B. 8/24 Export 610 BX 926324 23 C3207
124 XX29 L 9B 414650 W Halifax Chry / Dodge Ltd. Halifax N.S. 8/24 Export 610 BX 926325 23 C1802
318 XX29 L 9B 414651 W Dodge City, Ltd. Dartmouth N.S. 8/29 Export 610 BX 926326 23 C1508
260 XX29 L 9B 414652 W Century Motors Winnipeg Mant. 8/28 Export 610 BX 926327 24 C6936
125 XX29 L 9B 414653 W Century Motors Winnipeg Mant. 8/24 Export 610 BX 926328 24 C6936
126 XX29 L 9B 414654 W Brandon Chry / Dodge Ltd Brandon Mant. 8/24 Export 610 BX 926329 24 C6520
319 XX29 L 9B 414655 W Patrick Dodge Saskatoon Sask. 8/29 Export 610 BX 926330 24 C7979
26 XX29 L 9B 414656 W Crestview Ltd. Regina Sask. 8/20 Export 610 BX 926331 24 C7554
368 XX29 L 9B 414657 W Lakehead Motors Port Arthur Ont. 8/30 Export 610 BX 926332 24 C3527
461 XX29 L 9B 414658 W Penner Chry-Dodge Ltd. Steinbach Mant. 9/4 Export 610 BX 926333 24 C6904
462 XX29 J 9B 414659 H Crosstown Motors Edmonton Alb. 9/4 Export 610 BX 926334 25 C8812
395 XX29 J 9B 414660 H Crosstown Motors Edmonton Alb. 9/3 Export 610 BX 926335 25 C8812
463 XX29 L 9B 414661 W Crosstown Motors Edmonton Alb. 9/4 Export 610 BX 926336 25 C8812
36 XX29 L 9B 414662 W Calgary Chry / Dodge Calgary Alb. 8/21 Export 610 BX 926337 25 C8520
261 XX29 L 9B 414663 W Calgary Chry / Dodge Calgary Alb. 8/28 Export 610 BX 926338 25 C8520
207 XX29 L 9B 414664 W Lawson Oates Vancouver B.C. 8/27 Export 610 BX 926339 26 C9867
127 XX29 L 9B 414665 W Columbia Dodge New Westminster B.C. 8/24 Export 610 BX 926340 26 C9620
208 XX29 L 9B 414666 W Pumley Auto Company Vancouver B.C. 8/27 Export 610 BX 926341 26 C9997
128 XX29 L 9B 414667 W National Motors Ltd. Victoria B.C. 8/24 Export 610 BX 926342 26 C9506
205 XX29 L 9B 423239 W Vincent Forgues Pointe Trembles Que. 8/27 Export 610 BX 926320 22 C4631

-- Edited by hemi43 on Tuesday 9th of April 2013 09:40:31 AM

Seeker1056 · DOURO, ONT

yes - when I lived in kIngston as a kid the local dealership had 3 of them, parked half circle nose to nose - sat there for a couple yeras - couldnt get rid of them... then one day all three were gone
Fella here in Ennismore has had one under construction for years in his garage - dont know if it will ever see the light of day
Was at the Marmora show last summer and saw an olive green one with a newer style hemi in it - I suspect it was a clone

workin class · FINCH, ONT

A friend in high school had a 69 Daytona he traded it off for a 55 Chevy 4 door after trying to sell it with no luck. No one wanted those cars they were laughed at and considered stupid.

hemikev · HAMILTON, ONT

Awesome to hear this stuff

Hotrodron · BELLE EWART, ONT

I remember see one in my neighbourhood, I cant remember the color, i remember the giant wing

wolfman1 · ST GEORGE, ONT

Friend of my Dad's owned a Chrysler dealership in Oakville back in the 60's & 70's
He told me he had a Superbird in his showroom for nearly a year and a half
Couldn't sell the damn thing
Chrysler made him take one, he said he spent a small fortune on it , to make the fit and finish more presentable.

oldkoot · BROCKVILLE, ONT

Buddy still has one, helped him with a full restoration about 5 years ago. Bought it from an older fellow who lived in Muskoka who had owned it since the late 70's.

Dubya31 · SPRUCEDALE, ONT

I remember one sitting and rusting beside a barn in the 80s, I believe it was on Highway 507. I used to think they were ugly, so i never went in to look at it or inquire about it. Anyone remember it, or know what happened to it?

hemikev · HAMILTON, ONT

Thanx 4 ur memories guys. .. this stuff is awesome. theee were a fair amount of them sold to us canukd. Keep them coming

Pint. I reached dead end. .

hemi43 · ONTARIO

oldkoot wrote:
Buddy still has one, helped him with a full restoration about 5 years ago. Bought it from an older fellow who lived in Muskoka who had owned it since the late 70's.

That silver Superbird I mentioned looked exactly like the picture above once restored. Do you know the name of the person that used to own it? It may be the same car.

wolfman1 · ST GEORGE, ONT

My friend works for a concrete finishing company in kitchener , his boss has a yellow Superbird and a bronze Daytona
The Daytona was in the hall at Moparfest a couple of years ago
He found the Daytona in a barn on the east coast
It was originally a 440 car but the original motor was gone, it now has a hemi

oldkoot · BROCKVILLE, ONT

Don't think so, car was sold new in Ohio, originally yellow, and by 78 had made it's way to Florida and on a used car lot. At that time it was Hemi orange and every bracket, clip,nut, bolt and hinge was chromed.The fellow bought it and kept it at his Florida home, used it when he spent the winter there, then in the early 80's he drove it back to Muskoka. You could tell this fellow owned a marina, installed a rubber primer bulb in the fuel line to prime the carb, keys where on a flottie key fob. He said he drove the car once or twice a year, it sat under a pine tree a lot based on all the needles we cleaned out during the tear down. When my buddy bought the car it had a set of Goodyear GT radials, same type and size the 78 Corvette pace cars came with and the rubber nubs where still on the thread but probably 25 years old.

hemi43 · ONTARIO

oldkoot wrote:
Don't think so, car was sold new in Ohio, originally yellow, and by 78 had made it's way to Florida and on a used car lot. At that time it was Hemi orange and every bracket, clip,nut, bolt and hinge was chromed.The fellow bought it and kept it at his Florida home, used it when he spent the winter there, then in the early 80's he drove it back to Muskoka. You could tell this fellow owned a marina, installed a rubber primer bulb in the fuel line to prime the carb, keys where on a flottie key fob. He said he drove the car once or twice a year, it sat under a pine tree a lot based on all the needles we cleaned out during the tear down. When my buddy bought the car it had a set of Goodyear GT radials, same type and size the 78 Corvette pace cars came with and the rubber nubs where still on the thread but probably 25 years old.

There was only around 1900 Superbirds made, and because my Buddy's was originally yellow also, I had to ask.

hemikev · HAMILTON, ONT

Never really xpected this much response. thanx

hemikev · HAMILTON, ONT

Ive heard of. An orange.blue.lime green 1 here in hamilton back in the day..a friend of mine bought a wrecked 1 in a yard near wingham.

hemi43 · ONTARIO

hemikev wrote:
Ive heard of. An orange.blue.lime green 1 here in hamilton back in the day..a friend of mine bought a wrecked 1 in a yard near wingham.

How cool is that !! To buy a Superbird in a placed called "WINGham" LOL

Seeker1056 · DOURO, ONT

Hemi43 - nice list - however it only shows one bird for Kingston and there were three for a sure fact on that lot back when new

hemi43 · ONTARIO

Seeker1056 wrote:
Hemi43 - nice list - however it only shows one bird for Kingston and there were three for a sure fact on that lot back when new

I didn't write the list !! Besides, that list is for Daytonas, not Superbirds as I stated. There was only 503 Daytonas built ever, which IMHO would make that list somewhat correct. Usually 1/10 of production came to Canada. smile

hemikev · HAMILTON, ONT

If you think about it , the daytona list shows a lot of Canadian sales for a car that on a limited sales run ...

hemi43 · ONTARIO

hemikev wrote:
If you think about it , the daytona list shows a lot of Canadian sales for a car that on a limited sales run ...

Around 50 cars, or about 10 percent. Exactly what it should be !! I think there were 1920 Superbirds made, which an educated guess would put around 190 of them in Canada. Low numbers for sure !!

hemi43 · ONTARIO

Beachcat wrote:
built from a 1970 road runner. There's radical and there's ugly. Still just my opinion

I think you're right !! I know there was a 1970 model that was not available as a convertible, and someone made one using another car. It may have been a convertible Daytona made from a Road Runner or Coronet. It's been a long time since I used to be in this stuff !! smile smile

-- Edited by hemi43 on Thursday 11th of April 2013 12:47:52 PM

Beachcat · WASAGA BEACH, ONT

One of the most ridiculouus looking cars ever made JMHO

DaveM · ONTARIO

It wasn't about the styling or looks. It was purpose built so they could go racing, and they dominated until they were banned. Automotive and racing history.

Beachcat · WASAGA BEACH, ONT

ever see a convertible bird? You probably haven't cause there's onl one. Not for racing either and still ugly.

hemi43 · ONTARIO

Beachcat wrote:
ever see a convertible bird? You probably haven't cause there's onl one. Not for racing either and still ugly.

That's not a factory built one, and if I recall was built from a convertible Charger using 70 Road Runner panels. I agree they are not the best looking cars, but you got to hand to Chrysler for having the balls to build such radical cars. If it wasn't for this kind of thinking at Chrysler, your Prowler would never be more than an artists drawing of a concept car.

Beachcat · WASAGA BEACH, ONT

built from a 1970 road runner. There's radical and there's ugly. Still just my opinion

hemi43 · ONTARIO

I knew I wasn't losing my mind !! Here is the car I remembered.

http://www.streetlegaltv.com/news/70-dodge-daytona-convertible-can-be-yours-wait-a-what/

Fordy Acres Car Farm · DORCHESTER, ONT

I recall Don Garlits had a one of a kind brown metallic one dubbed ''Rootbeer''. The last time I was there was '99, so I'm not sure if it's still there though.

fatstax · COBOURG, ONT

i think chrysler back in the day had the idea of making an already ugly car look even worse. what were they thinking?

hemi43 · ONTARIO

fatstax wrote:
i think chrysler back in the day had the idea of making an already ugly car look even worse. what were they thinking?

The 70 Road Runner was not my favorite either. The 69 was a much better looking car. The 70 Charger however was a beautiful car. Nice grille and nice tail lights.

Beachcat · WASAGA BEACH, ONT

fatstax wrote:
i think chrysler back in the day had the idea of making an already ugly car look even worse. what were they thinking?

Agreed, making your product even uglier is not good marketing strategy.

For some reason what I see when I see your username is Fastax. So can you do my taxes?

sasquatch · NORTH BAY, ONT

Did Richard Petty not own one, think so, think it was blue?

hemi43 · ONTARIO

Beachcat wrote:
fatstax wrote:
i think chrysler back in the day had the idea of making an already ugly car look even worse. what were they thinking?
Agreed, making your product even uglier is not good marketing strategy.

For some reason what I see when I see your username is Fastax. So can you do my taxes?

They had to build them so that Nascar would let them race it. I don't know why they built almost 2000 because Nascar mandated only 500 production cars were needed. The dealers had a difficult time selling them, and some were still on the lots 2 years later. I've heard that some were actually transformed back into Road Runners just so they could be sold.

flatblack55delivery · PORT HOPE, ONT

I wonder how many were used in various forms of racing,wonder how many were destroyed in wrecks and scrapped.It always amazes me how many low production cars actually survive.Thinking about Nomads,Safaries,sedan deliveries,and other wierd things.Only 5 ever made back in the day the add screams, but there are 3 forsale today in Hemmings,59-60 ElCaminos,and some other ones as well as the Birds you are talking about here.If you have the coin,there is probably one of them available someware no matter how few were made origionally.We all have seen the pictures of huge scrapyards full of old cars,actually hundreds of scrapyards and millions of cars I wonder how so many low production cars survived,especially if as has been noted here they werent popular when they were new. Ed

DaveM · ONTARIO

http://www.carsinbarns.com/Superbirds%20&%20Daytonas/index.htm

jim_ss409 · BARRIE, ONTARIO

I remember there was a Daytona on the used car lot at Lakehead Motors in Thunder Bay. I don't remember ever seeing the car on the road so it may have come from out of town.
It had a 440 for sure and I think it was a four barrel. It had a spot of rust on the top of the fender. I think they were asking eleven hundred for it so they would have probably taken less than a thousand.
I think this would have been about 1974 so this was just another used car. I knew it was a rare car and I liked Chargers but I thought the nose and big wing made it look stupid,,, so I passed on it.

hemikev · HAMILTON, ONT

flatblack55delivery wrote:
I wonder how many were used in various forms of racing,wonder how many were destroyed in wrecks and scrapped.It always amazes me how many low production cars actually survive.Thinking about Nomads,Safaries,sedan deliveries,and other wierd things.Only 5 ever made back in the day the add screams, but there are 3 forsale today in Hemmings,59-60 ElCaminos,and some other ones as well as the Birds you are talking about here.If you have the coin,there is probably one of them available someware no matter how few were made origionally.We all have seen the pictures of huge scrapyards full of old cars,actually hundreds of scrapyards and millions of cars I wonder how so many low production cars survived,especially if as has been noted here they werent popular when they were new. Ed

Im with you on the low production flatblack ..

All 3 major auto makers built some rare cars , the old saying Race on Sunday Buy on Monday .... be it nascar or drag racing ,, Ford with their Boss cars , Chevy with their C O P O .,mopar with their hemis and 69 lift off hood 6 pack cars .. The horse power wars were in full swing , what a time to be a musclecar guy , I got there to late ,

But lucky for me when i got there the muscle cars were rusting away or takin apart in drive ways . My first ford was a 67 289 fairlane , my first chevy a pair of 69 Camaros , 1st mopars 71 challenger R/T sassy grass green car . I was living man ....

my fastest cars , 6 pk cuda and hemi 68 runner ...

so many rare low production cars built ,, lucky 4 us all so many did survive for us to own , I love watching the old dragracing dvd s , 409s 427s,boss 9s t bolts ,

we ve all owned them , we ve all had chances to own them , we ve all gone threw the wrecking yards and found some rare iron ,...

Now your lucky to walk into a yard and find a rwd car

Canadian Poncho · PEI

I remember my dad telling me a guy driving either a Superbird or Daytona was killed in London when he rear ended a city bus.
I remember seeing a yellow Superbird in Ottawa twice in the mid 1970's

Fordy Acres Car Farm · DORCHESTER, ONT

Fordy Acres Car Farm wrote:
I recall Don Garlits had a one of a kind brown metallic one dubbed ''Rootbeer''. The last time I was there was '99, so I'm not sure if it's still there though.

I couldn't get on the actual Don Garlits web site, but I tracked this site down:

http://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g34496-d291164-i44474069-Don_Garlits_Museum_of_Drag_Racing-Ocala_Florida.html

It shows that this is "one of one" in this colour. The list price was $4,790.95 (I think - hard to read that tiny sign). Affectionately known as "The Rootbeer Superbird".

-- Edited by Fordy Acres Car Farm on Friday 19th of April 2013 12:39:42 PM

jarvis1 · COBBLE HILL, BC

http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_detail.cfm?LOT_ID=SC0513-154081&utm_source=delivra&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=SC0513%5FF204

Hog · WOODSTOCK, ONT

Here is a picture of my Uncles 1969 Dodge Charger 500. It's 1 of 27 built with the 426 Hemi, 4 speed trans and 4.10:1 Suregrip. It's a true 500 Aero car as the R/T package is deleted with the "500 package" added on the factory order sheet. It has the stock 68 Coronet front grill and flush mount rear window. Take this car and bolt on the spoiler and front nose, you have a Daytona.

This thing is quick, 1st and 2nd are useless, but 3rd and 4th work well. It has the 150mph speedo. 6000rpm in 4th gives you 112mph, 6500 gives 122, 7000rpm gives 132mph.
At WOT the induction sound is louder than the exhaust. This thing is cherry. It has a lumpy idle, and is still loud even through the dual resonators and dual mufflers.

I am proud to have been in such a rare piece of iron. Notice the Ontario license plate???

Same uncle has a race 426 Hemi that had a Duster running 10.01@ 157mph. My Mom used to pour the gas down the professional massaged dual 1350 cfm Dominators when they would start the engine for a race.

I used to think I missed the big power days" and I did, but the times of making big power EFFICIENTLY is now. We are right in the thick of it, IF you can afford it.

-- Edited by Hog on Monday 29th of April 2013 05:54:54 PM

RJ · New Member

Robin egg? It was black. Paint and interior were returned to original back in in the early nineties. Motor brakes and suspension retain mods for performance sand safety.

RJ · New Member

The silver bird was owned by tony, the car was really rough. The original owners street raced it and hit a pole that caved in the nose and blew the motor. When it was painted the original owner saw it at a show and cried.

Jeepsterhemi · St-Francois du Lac, Québec

In 1972-73 a used car dealer try very hard to sell me a yellow Superbird for $2,500 that he can long term finance .......years later, discussing with an old timer, he told me that the car was originally lime color ........

In about 1994, I bought the XX29-- 414635 for $250 with $20 down, if I remember correctly (can't find the receipt right now) .....resale the car a few days later for $750.....

The Daytona ended up at Daniel Brisson to keep company with his Superbird........

Here is the transcript of the data plate I took when I first saw the car....the car was empty, no interior, no engine and trans with a '70 Charger front end....

Dakota · SCARBOROUGH, ONT

atomsplitter wrote:
A guy in West Hill (Scarborough, near Manse and Coronation area) had a "Robbins Egg Blue" Super Bird. I think that colour, on that car, put me off Mopars for life!

I think that fellow may have had more than one of those cars or he kept repainting the one he had cuz I'm sure I remember a red or orange one and a black one.

DJD · SCARBOROUGH, ONT

I believe he had two from what I remember
I was in art class with the guy's son in the early 80's

in the mid 70's I saw a black one at / around abouts the A&W on kingston road just north of Borden .. a black one with flames..

the summer of 78 or 79 there was a red daytona that showed up on the street behind my house in the sheppard / meadowvale area

red , black interior , no stripe or daytona script on the quarter , decient sized dent in the driver's side corner of the nose

and a yellow one , mid 80's driving up morningside rd one night

and for fun
there was an AAR 'cuda in my aunt & uncle's neighbour's car port back when I was 6.. 71

I had no clue what it was until 10 years later when I saw an AAR now for the second time

- year old car buried in the car port under a pile of junk
..probably busted I'd think

Petebil · ONTARIO

Wish I had one today. They are worth a fortune now.

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-- Edited by Petebil on Monday 2nd of January 2017 01:05:46 PM