Front axle identification Help!

Adslow65 · LINDSAY, ONT

Front axle identification Help!

oldkoot · BROCKVILLE, ONT

Early Ford solid axles where rear steer, the shock mounted to the lower spring plate which was cast, bolt pattern was 5x5.5. Might be 61-67 Ford Econoline,there should be a number cast in the center portion of the axle. C1UU-3010 is 61-63, C5TA-3010 is 64-67. Believe they where 5x4.5 BP.

-- Edited by oldkoot on Sunday 14th of April 2013 05:23:20 PM

Adslow65 · LINDSAY, ONT

Thanks for that info oldkoot and fatchuk! On that website link it looks very similar to the 61-67 Econoline axle... although the shock mount hole seems higher on my axle... but I will check tomorrow for any casting numbers and report back! Thanks!

-- Edited by Adslow65 on Sunday 14th of April 2013 10:00:53 PM

fatchuk · ST MARYS, ONTARIO

You might try this place for seaching and comparing.. I just can't see enough of that axel to see anything..does it have any markings at all..what if you remove the front drum and any markings on the spindle ..

http://www.droppedaxles.com/FORD_AXLES.html

Adslow65 · LINDSAY, ONT

Ok through more detective work I figured out what I have... although similar to the Econoline axle, turns out I have a '64-'70 Dodge A100 front axle. There is a plate I can get to convert it to disc brakes (uses Dodge hub, 95-97 Crown Vic rotors and GM calipers) But I'd still have the 5x4.5 bolt pattern, the rims I want to use are 5x5.5... hmmm I wonder how much of a pain it would be to fit Ford spindles? May be expensive for the machining... There's still a lot I need to figure out but at least I know what I have now! Thanks for the help guys!

Here's what its from...

Here's some pics of A100 axles... notice the same shock mount and swaybar location as mine!

Here's my axle....

-- Edited by Adslow65 on Monday 15th of April 2013 11:03:47 AM

slim · DUNDAS, ONT

bearings are the same as 65 econoline not sure if the spindles are the same length .seal may be a problem dodge shaft seal area 1.73 - ford 1.75 not sure of bolt pattern. search federal mongal site you may find a match. If you have room redrill the drums

-- Edited by slim on Tuesday 16th of April 2013 07:29:56 AM

fatstax · COBOURG, ONT

i was going to say last night i think its dodge, its very similiar to the thirties axle i have for sale except mine has a contour in the middle instead of being straight. i looked at it this afternoon and it is almost identical to your axle

hemi43 · ONTARIO

mid 80's Dodge trucks used a 5X5 pattern. You may find that they will fit the older spindles. I know Dodge stuff, especially front end stuff interchanges easily.

hemi43 · ONTARIO

slim wrote:
bearings are the same as 65 econoline not sure if the spindles are the same length .seal may be a problem dodge shaft seal area 1.73 - ford 1.75 not sure of bolt pattern. search federal mongal site you may find a match. If you have room redrill the drums

-- Edited by slim on Tuesday 16th of April 2013 07:29:56 AM

I think he wants to run front discs, so redrilling is not an option. IMO, remachining the spindle is not something I would do considering the outcome if a failure would ever happen. I think if the spindle lengths are close, it should work out OK. Might get lucky and find out that the Monarch bearing cups will fit into the Dodge bearing cones. Adapting the seal will be an easy one. smile

Edit;

I just re-read the original post, and he wants to run 5 X 5.5 !! I thought I read 5 X 5 !! confuse confuse Never mind then !!

I'm not sure which vehicles used a 5.5 BC, but as long as there's a way to find bearings to adapt that rotor to the Dodge spindle, then the reast can easily be fabricated.

I have a Timken cross refence book here, and I can look up which bearings (cup and cone) will interchange once I know the ID and OD needed.

-- Edited by hemi43 on Tuesday 16th of April 2013 10:20:46 AM

hemikev · HAMILTON, ONT

looks like econoline i have for my project.

Gwillyville Kid · BRADFORD, ONT

I had to identify the axle in my T bucket, which was built in 1966, not by me. I measured shoes & drums, but the REAL info came when I measured the KING PINS! You do NOT need to dis-assemble the front end to do that. Use Rock Auto .com and start looking up the various vehicles with beam axles. Adding bearing numbers will nail it down pretty quick. Ford DID have 5 on 4.5 inch Bolt pattern on SOME of the Econolines and SOME Pickup trucks usually Light Duty 1/2 tons. Dodge & Fargo used 5 on 4.5 as well. Look for left hand thread on Driver's side. Studebaker, Hudson, Kaiser, Nash & Jeep also used 5 on 4.5".
As you are researching this keep in mind the Line from Rob Schneider, in 5 different movies, "You Can Do It!"

the Kid