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dodgy canuck


MILTON, ONT

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So, I had the windshield installed last week in my '72 C10.

I took it to the glass place looking to have the seal re-done, but the didn't really want any part of removing the glass. Sounded like they thought it would break when trying to remove it!

So, I took the glass out myself and wouldn't you know it... CRACK! Bugger! I made it about 6 inches from the left A pillar on the top, gently removing the seal (by hand no less!) and POW~ Right in the kisser!

I had to 're-seal' it because it was not installed correctly in the first place! The seal was hardly holding the glass in! If I tried (after it broke, I did try!) I pushed it out with little effort!

The last time it was installed, they broke 3 windshields trying! I guess that is why the 4th was not fully installed!

So, anyway, I get the glass out and the frame has 3 holes in it from the water sitting in the old seal!

On to fixing that! Get it ready and buy my new seal from Antique Chev (I love that place!) for HALF THE PRICE the glass place was going to charge.

The guy comes to install the new glass. He tried 4 times to do it before it broke!

Had to order another one!

He actually had to grind 1/4" of the bottom of the glass to get it installed correctly! Which took 3 hours, BTW!

So here I sit. Out $500. New glass installed. NO MOR LEAKS!!!!!! I wish it could've been done for less, but what can I do!?!?!?!



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my glass guy here in belleville wouldn't take one out once for me. he had the trim off and called me to come over for a look see. explained the situation about some pressure points and said if i didn't have another one if needed, i shouldn't. its the original tinted back glass in my a/c coronet, good luck finding that with-out a 2nd mortgage on the house. i was out the new seal and about 3hrs for his magic to stop the leak. luckily coming from cali there was no rust to speak of.
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"NO MOR LEAKS!!!!!!" Priceless

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slim


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just wondering if this is the way they installed it. never would of dreamed this up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOU_0HpS7To&feature=player_detailpage



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Redneck Rydes


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I have installed a lot of these over the years.The main problem I have encountered is that the opening is not consistent with the glass.I have measured some of these openings and found as much as 1/4 too small in places,also glass sizes vary from manufactures,It sometimes is trial by fire, congrats and lesson learned. :)

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Exactly what redneck said. I had an old Dodge Ramcharger with the same problem. I had this thing for years and went through lots of windshields, and broke just as many trying to install them. When I repainted the truck, I ground the pinch seam surrounding the windshield a bit bigger and that got rid of the problem. Also, never try to reuse the old weatherstrip. They get hard over the years and you're guaranteed to crack the glass.

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Old weather strips aren't the only thing to go bad - the glass itself gets more brittle over time and doesn't flex as much as new glass without cracking. Just ask a 'top chopper' how many original windshields they cracked before successfully cutting a brand new one!

I agree with 'redneck' though, manufacturing tolerances could be off originally right out of the factory, or with the age of some of our hobby cars, who knows what they could have been through over the years to put things out of square.

I also agree with 'Hemi43' to make clearance at the window opening metal rather than to risk cracking the windshield by belt sanding the glass to size it to the opening!

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Jazz wrote:

I know my neighbours windshield leaks in his 56 chev,,,says its just the poor quality in general of gm vehicles,,i tend to agree.

 I would tend to lean more towards poor quality in workmanship from the guy that installed the windshield .



-- Edited by hemi43 on Thursday 6th of June 2013 09:06:12 AM

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I know my neighbours windshield leaks in his 56 chev,,,says its just the poor quality in general of gm vehicles,,i tend to agree.

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I agree Hemi,our cars are a long time removed from any manufacture and only as good as the last guy who worked on it. Ed

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dodgy canuck


MILTON, ONT

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I know with mine, the installer test fit the glass in the frame with no rubber. The gap was perfect! There was no part of the pinch weld that was sticking out more than anywhere else.

It is weird to me that 2 different installers had the same problems when both have admitted there is nothing wrong with the truck!

Doesn't matter now because it is in and does not leak!!!!


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slim


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Sun baked Arizona seal in mine leaks right in the center above the mirror. Cleans the floor while you drive. Priceless

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Cleans the floor while you drive. Priceless

 

not sure if you are aware of this or not but; that was on the option list when it was ordered new.   LOL

 

had to



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A few years ago I put a back window in a 1954 Chevrolet 210, had trouble with the curved glass and putting the chrome back on ,ended up putting olive oil on the rubber seal to get it to slide in and it worked.



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And 'Popeye' was OK with that? (sorry, couldn't resist)

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Fordy Acres Car Farm wrote:

And 'Popeye' was OK with that? (sorry, couldn't resist)

 LOL!!!!!!!!!!



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rifraf wrote:

A few years ago I put a back window in a 1954 Chevrolet 210, had trouble with the curved glass and putting the chrome back on ,ended up putting olive oil on the rubber seal to get it to slide in and it worked.

 interesting. one for the memory bank



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shag766 wrote:

Cleans the floor while you drive. Priceless

 

not sure if you are aware of this or not but; that was on the option list when it was ordered new.   LOL

 

had to

 The better option was no inside door handles or window winders. Easy to use the handle on the outside when you get out .When its 140F in the shade. Good thing I have long skinny arms (no draft) or Id still be scratching at the floor like a trapped rat biggrin



-- Edited by slim on Saturday 8th of June 2013 09:51:35 PM

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my 50 chevy truck came with a busted one half of windshield from hood popping open at one point in time . No leaks but glass badly cracked . bought a new rubber , went to the local hot rod glass shop recommended by two other guys . had new ones cut from green glass an put in with new rubber , leaks every time you wash it or it rains . Gotta Love it ..77.
Are you guys roping them in or just trying to push in by hand ??

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The windshield in my car I installed using some dish soap for lubricant. During heavy rain, a bit of water will make it's way around the gasket and glass, and the air pressure from going down the road gives me lovely soap bubbles.

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I did that to a son in law a few years a go. We were towing my 66suburban home on a tow strap, from getting some welding done on it and got a flat tire on it part way home.I opened the door from the outside and asked if he would stay with the truck, while I went to get another tire as there was stuff in it I didn't want to lose.He said fine ,I closed the door and left.Last I saw he was calmly sitting there having a smoke.I was gone for about 1/2 hr and when i got back he was yelling something at me as he stood outside the truck.As I got closer I could understand him saying "I had to brake it sorry but it was getting really hot sorry I had to brake it".I was wondering what the hell was going on when I realized what he was talking about.I had removed all the handles and winders to paint the door panels and he couldn'tget out of the truck.Fortunatly there was an old tire iron from the jack and he was able to jiggle the door latch enough to open the door but broke one of the linkages in the process.I thought it was cool he was more worried about the latch than the panic there must have been whe he realized he couldn't get out .I asked if he thought about brakeing a window before thinking of the latch linkages,he just pointed to the shoe marks on the passenger window.He is an x son inlaw now(for other reasons) but every once in a while this story comes up when I see him,oddly enough it seems I find it funnier than he does for some reason. Ed

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Apply butyl sealant between the rubber lip and body, do the same between glass and the rubber channel the glass sits in. Clean up the excess sealant that will squeeze out with mineral spirits. No more water leaks!!

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Im going to change a small rear window  in a 49 3100   the corner windows are fine      so a rope? and Olives oil? and butyl sealant? and mineral spirits?  awesome



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