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PRINCE EDWARD COUNTY, ONT

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This first post will be rather long since I started the car officially 3 years ago.  There have been some delays like retiring, moving, wife's illness (OK now), building a new workshop.  I have tried to document the hi-lites of the build but I'm sure in a document of this size, I've missed a thousand points.

 

 

 

In 1960 I was just turning 16, I didn’t know dick about cars and in fact had never thought about cars as anything but transportation.  As chance would have it, a friend of mine hung out at the Strokers Car Club and asked if I would be interested in dropping by.  The moment I did, my life changed.  I was always mechanically inclined and when I saw what these guys were building, the fever caught me.  I was still going to school in Stratford when one day I saw a Model A Tudor sitting in a service station lot.  The next weekend I was towing it home on a rope in January from Stratford to Galt with nothing but a clutch to slow it.  Somehow we made it.  Shortly after, a neighbour needing beer money on Saturday night sold me his 55 Chev for $25.  And so it began.  A year later a chopped chev powered tudor was prowling the street.  Rough and in primer, but awesome.  Several years later I wanted to go racing.  The A was dismantled, new chassis was built, the small block was replaced with a dual quad Corvette, paint was applied and we went racing.  The C/AVillage Idiot was born.

 

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Just fresh back from the paint shop

 

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What I believe is the only surviving picture of the Village Idiot

 

That’s all history now but about eight years ago I started toying with the idea of a ‘Village Idiot’ tribute car.  In the early 90’s I reaquired the body from the Village Idiot but several years later I sold it again.  Now I wanted it back. Through a network of friends, it was located outside of London but had been restored into a full fendered rod and so the Village Idiot was finally put to bed.  Still I travelled all over New York, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Ontario searching for the parts.  I found a Tudor in WilnoON and dragged it home.  

 

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What was I thinking in Wilno

 

 

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This was worth the trip to Saskatchewan

 

 

 

I initially acquired a rebuild L79 for the build but I always loved a Buick in a Hi-boy and since I had previous experience with the aluminium engine developed by Buick in 1961, I decided this was the engine of choice.  The next decision was where to start.  I went and talked to Neil Candy but since I was living near Cambridge, I decided to go with Hitman Hotrods.  Very soon into the build it was obvious that the Tudor that I had just needed too much work and so I went with the Hitman built chassis.  I looked at several different bodies and finally found a perfect specimen in WakawSK.  In February of 2011, I drove out to Saskatchewan and hauled it home.  Now things began to take shape.  Six months later the rolling chassis with a respectable body rolled out.

 

 

 

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The Hitman frame starts to take shape

 

 

 

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Steering and shock details

 

 

 

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Unisteer rack and pinion

 

 

 

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Lucky 7 housing, Currie axles and a 3.70 9” posi

 

 

 

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A 49 Ford tank is mounted behind the rear seat

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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Steel floors welded in

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The first time the car saw sunlight as it rolled out of Hitman Hotrods

 

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Next it was off to the body shop.  The top had been chopped 4.5” before I bought it but the seams needed serious work.  Although it was a beautiful body with no rust, it had been in a building where a fire had occurred and some warpage was evident.  The chop was finished, the body smoothed, an insert was put in the roof, a hidden gas door installed, the firewall was modified, and then it was onto the interior.  I wanted everything on this car simple and unobtrusive and hopefully I executed well.  I have nothing against chrome but I wanted this to reflect the simplicity of the cars we were building in the sixties.  I made an aluminium panel on which to mount the steering and a single ’32 gauge panel with speedometer and 4 gauge set.  A trim bar below contained 12 switches controlling all other functions.  Two simple black buckets from Speedway were installed.  A Speedway hotrod column with Grant wheel and Speedway components turn the Unisteer rack and pinion.  A ’49 Ford pickup gas tank was installed in the rear seat.  A frame was built over the tank to form a small seat and two 6V Optima batteries connected in series formed the arm rests.  To have flow through ventilation a power rear window was fabricated.  New tinted glass and window winders were installed all round. 

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Wood kit is installed and sound deadener/ insulation is applied every where

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I ordered a roof insert from Howells of Texas,  Cost tons and it was the worst mistake I made on the car.  It was just a piece of 18 gauge that needed to be fitted but we finally got it right.  I could have bought a sheet of steel here and installed it with less trouble and saved $500.  A bead of adhesive is run between the metal and each oak roof rib keeping everything solid and quiet.

 

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When I saw this, I knew I was on the right path, note the Buick on the engine stand

 

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Ready to go home for the first time

 

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I took the car home for a while to work on various pieces like brakes, lighting, cooling etc and then it was back for painting.

 

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Dupont Lime Light has been applied by Randy Emond

 

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Beautiful rear fenders fashioned by Gary Geady of Port Colbourne

 

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  Wilwood cylinders are used to brake front and rear as well as clutch.

 

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Wilwood pedal setup.  Whoops, the clutch pedal didn’t quite clear.

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Note how the lower half of the firewall has been pulled back to facilitate the engine

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 The aluminium dash has been kept clean with switches mounted below

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The gas tank filler will be covered and upholstered

 

 

 

 

 

 



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The Optima batteries are located under the armrests.  Note the actuator on the rear window

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Really comfy seats from Speedway that fit both your butt and the car

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The painted car gets to it’s new home in PrinceEdwardCounty

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On to the drive train;  As I stated before, I wanted to go with the aluminium engine, but in it’s original configuration it was just not up to the job.  When GM gave up on that engine they sold it to Rover who over the years increased the size from 3.5 L to 4.6 L, the last with 4 bolt mains.  This block will be the basis of the engine with a Buick 300 crank and 300 aluminium heads.  I built a set of headers since no one makes anything for this engine.  When it came time for induction, I initially was going to go for Hilborn look injection but finally decided to use a blower.  Unfortunately I had already painted the firewall and installed the master cylinders, therefore a 71 series blower would not fit.  After much measuring and searching, I fount that the 6-53 GMC blower cleared everything.  The drawback on this unit is that it requires bearing lubrication from the engine oiling system.  This was definitely a no-no.  Fortunately, I discovered JoeBlo in Australia.  He makes end plates for the 6-53 with sealed bearings.  The plates were shipped to Rick Dean Blowers in Washington state who rebuilt a 6-53 for the street.  This still left the problem of mounting the blower on the engine since there was no manifold available to do the job.  It was finally decided that a Rover injection intake could be used.

 

 

 

 

 

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 Bottom half of the Rover injection intake

 

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The adaptor from manifold to blower as seen from bottom

 

 

 

 

 

Taking the lower half of a Rover injection manifold, The Machining  Center in Belleville machined two adaptors, one between the manifold and the blower and the other between the blower and the carburetors.  Three Stromberg 97’s were mounted atop.  I have tried both bologna stacks and a finned aluminium cover that matches the valve covers.

 

 

 

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The adaptor as seen from the blower side

 

 

 

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The JoeBlo end plates

 

 

 

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6-53 top side

 

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6-53 as seen from the bottom

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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Just wanted to say thank you Jeff, Gary, Larry, Janice, Bruce, Richard, Steve, Neil, Ray, John, Ed, Rhys and John for all your kind words. Sometimes when you try something slightly different, you never know if it will work. Your words are especially important because you live the life. Thanks Bruce for suggesting Neil, it couldn't have worked out better.

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Hey Warren, first time I've seen your hot rod, it looks great so far!

Do you think it's bright enough.

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The upper adaptor from the bottom side

 

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The upper adaptor as seen from the top

 

 

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Intake manifold for 3 Strombergs

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Another view

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Triple Stromberg setup

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Headers I built with inserts in each tube

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 There is also a baffle in the tip that can be tuned

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Induction complete with the bologna stacks

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Induction with finned air cleaner

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Where we are today

The car is currently at Candy's Rod Shop for some sweetening.  Will probably be there until Jeff wants back in.



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NORTH BAY, ONT

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Now that is very cool looking!!

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Your dedication sure paid off. Beautiful work.

Janice

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Dog Spit [love that name] looks great Warren!! You nailed it!

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sweet. That car makes that colour look wicked.

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wuga wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Induction with finned air cleaner

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Where we are today

 

The car is currently at Candy's Rod Shop for some sweetening.  Will probably be there until Jeff wants back in.


 More sweetening!?!!!?? SERIOUSLY??? Thinking outside of the box engine selection and jewelry too! Spectacular!!!



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A camera cannot capture the colour of this hot rod, as it is just awsome. The stance is killer, as mothers and young children would be scared to see the gow job, thunder by.... A PERFECT Hot Rod !!!



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Wuga, thanks for the great "follow Along " build pics and info.
That intake system took a bit of thought and sorting out. Very impressive.
Love the colour and the old school stance/look. Real nice, also appreciated the bit of history added to this, always makes interesting reading.

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Very very sharp!!!!!!!



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Nice car ,lots of attitude,interesting history,very cool post.See you at armdrop in the sping. Ed

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Spring Armdrop.......hmmmm......... you will be having guys lining up to have a go against that beautiful ride!

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You nailed it !!!!

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Great  history, great Hot Rod!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Thanks for posting the project, Rhys.



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That's Just Perfect. You nailed it.

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That is PERFECT! I love the colour too!

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Rear nice build and history Warren.

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Hey Warren,
That gorgeous car sure would look good at the ELTA summer bash next year. Along side of Norwell's deuce (I doubt it), Sherwood's 31 and Bruce's 29 and maybe even the Candyman. Now that would be a line-up, Hell I'd even park my ol' boot somewhere close.



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BAM!!!!!!
You nailed it Warren... not only out of the park.. but simply in the next province!
Killer Stance,killer attitude and Super BOSS Sedan.

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All Ya gotta do is SHOW up my friend....just show up and quit threatening....I WILL have beer!!!   OH!!! and all the therapy you could ever need!!! Right on the street!



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Rochie..I am hurt...... Where is my therapy ? ha ha ha

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wuga wrote:

 

 


 

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When I saw this, I knew I was on the right path, note the Buick on the engine stand

 


 I usually take some old car mags with me when I head out to work. Started to go through Sept 2006 of Rod and Custom and found this picture on pages 14 and 15. Dream Car of the month. Thought that was pretty cool! 

 

 


 

 

 


 

 

 



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Yup simply awesome I think different is going to be the new normal,very well done and with a storey behind it too!

 

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Having seen the car in person and even touched it pictures do not do it justice.
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Hey guys, the car is still at Candy's, I am away right now but should be able to get over there in a week and see what has happened. He said out before Christmas. Thanks Sherwood, Mark, Randy, Jeff, Wayne, Kevin, Randy and Don for your kind words. Will post some new pictures soon.

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Well, it's been a while, not that things haven't been happening, it was just that I wanted to wait until the car got home and I got some pictures before I posted again.  The car was at Candy's until Christmas week.  While it was there, Neil wired the car using the fuse panel I had installed.  It is so neat and runs are so obscure, I couldn't have asked for any more.  Pictures show behind the dash and working lights, tail, signal, four way, backup, dash and interior.  I wanted to keep attachments to a minimum therefore the reason for the licence plate frame lights.

 

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Neil also ran all hydraulic lines, again clean and minimal.

 

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I installed a pinion parking brake from TSM.

 

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When the car left Candy's, it went to Nando at Shannonville upholstery.  The buckets are from Speedway.  Nando then matched the panels.  The headliner was done in a black headliner material and the black carpeting covered the rear section over the gas tank.  The series connected Optima 6V batteries are under the rear arm rests.  I can't imagine anyone sitting in the rear seat, but in the event, a removable cushion rests between the batteries.  The power rear window is also seen in the picture.

 

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I had the headlight pods and the rad insert powder coated Satin Black.

 

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Finally today, I'd like your opinion.  I had these wheels and thought they give a nice retro look to the car.  I think both looks have their place but for normal street look, what way do you think I should go.  If I go with the steel wheels, I will put a 155/80-15 tire on the front which is about the same size as the  spoke wheel tire.

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I will be away for the next six weeks and hopefully by the time I get back, my engine will be finished.

Thanks for looking

Warren



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100% MAGS !

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I would go with the aluminum mags. No question.

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Mags!!!

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Dog Spit is looking great Warren! The mags are definitely the way to go!!

The wiring looks so much nicer when it is all black [Ez Wire kit I presume], takes a little longer but worth it.



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and its a hand shaker, good show!



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The mags seem to go with the build style of the rest of it. The steelies are great, but on a more conservative style build IMO.

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Beautifull piece of work, thanks for the great pics. Love it!

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Mags ….or we'll come and get you!!!

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Dog spit is sweet     I'll bet it cost a pile of bones   lol



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VERY NICE! Hats off!

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What a thread!! Dude, that is a kick a** colour for that car....blown AND a stick??? sweetness...

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Gotta go with the race look .The car screems race car.Mags all the way.Unless you go the ultimet route and go with, chrome reverse,skinnie front and fat back(not smoothies),pie crust whitewall slicks and pizza cutter white wall(inner and outer,motorcycle style) on the front.Beautiful look whatever you choose. Ed

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I agree with the masses. Steelie's while sharp looking, don't suit as well as the mags.

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you nailed it,stance,engine,story behind the build,excellent work,and it needs to roll on the mags,they finish the look.

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Wow, what can I say that hasn't already been said about this build. Being new here I've been running through the build threads and I'm just blown away with what is going on here. You nailed this one to the wall. There is a magazine cover page in the future for this car for sure.

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Mags !!!! Use the steelie's for the salt (Bonneville), or give the mags a good coating of "Pam" or WD40......

Looks great Warren !


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Wow what a sweet ride! I would go with the mags as well.

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you know thats an awesome way to save space with th ebatteries, two 6 volt units.  i might have to try that.  what is that v8 rover engine from?  a land or range rover?  are they tough enough for supercharging?  very interesting



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Very cool brother.......with the Galt Strokers turning 60 this year....it's a great tribute to have the "Village Idiot" recreated......it'll be great to see her on the road in full stride...lol.



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Great build. Awesome work. Love the pinion e brake!

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