go with an asymetrical lift. This allows you to pull up till your mirrors reach the uprights and open the door fully without hitting anything. I'm wondering why you want the baseplate style when you have such a high ceiling. The baseplate on the floor can be a pain.
Rotary makes the best hoist on the market right now. Most commercial shops use them. They cost more but you get what you pay for. I have worked under some Chinese stuff. Putting a truck on them scares me. They wiggle and jiggle like a bowl full of jelly.
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While we're talking hoists. Did you know that a commercial hoist is supposed to be inspected yearly? Makes sense right. Get this though, there is no hoist inspector license. Meaning anyone who works for a hoist company installing or inspecting has no certifications or qualifications. This according to the last inspector that was in at the shop I work at a month ago. I can believe it too, I have met some installers/ inspectors that I won't trust to change a tire on my wheel barrow. Another shop I worked at I saw a truck fall off a hoist a month after it was inspected. Complaints were noted to the inspector previous to inspection, inspector didn't follow through with the noted complaints and a proper inspection. Truck fell off because the the anchor bolts were loose in the floor and the cables were not adjusted properly. Both items should have been checked during inspection but weren't.
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As a Building inspector I know that there are very, very, few floors that are more than 4" thick and almost all are 28mpa or less
Cant say as I have ever seen or heard of anyone cutting out a floor and re-pouring it either.
As a Building inspector I know that there are very, very, few floors that are more than 4" thick and almost all are 28mpa or less Cant say as I have ever seen or heard of anyone cutting out a floor and re-pouring it either.
Maybe I need to rethink a 2 post and go 4 post??
6 is standard industrial and always to thin . I see pads cut out on a weekly basis and re poured not a huge deal. the biggest problem is staying on top of the concrete guys . Really doesn't matter what you have on blue prints they just go ahead and do what ever they want or should I say whatever they have always done.
According to the ministry of labor any lifting device has to be inspected once a year this includes cranes, forklifts, chain falls come along slings, You name it . Sure anyone can sign off on it being safe and its all well and good till something go's wrong and some one gets hurt. Remember its not the inspectors job to repair it and as long as he can produce sufficient evidence that he is qualified and the equipment was in good working order at that time . the problem falls back on the shop.Just one more good idea that got totally screwed up by bureaucrats and became a cover your ass money grab and administration nightmare. You wonder why we don't make anything here anymore .
Also if it's a "Home" hoist in your garage your Insurance Co. "may" frown on having it!! One of my car club members got caught this way with insurance co> they wanted "commerical ins. on property, as hoist 'could" be used for "other" than your own vehicle????
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Big difference between the hobbiest and commercial....
Every day up and down a 100 times with every different kind of vehical on it....
Or the hobbiest who works on this own hot rods
Either commercial or hobby....your floor must be good or pads must be poured
I understand you need 30 MPA 30,000 lb concrete at 6 inches minimum
Anything else is could be a disaster!
So Mike.....a commercial hoist....inspected ......and a car falls off....hmmmmmm
I guess it could happen to anyone...
No matter what....you have to be careful using a hoist and not take it for granted.
-- Edited by Grumpsbodyworks on Monday 25th of November 2013 11:31:01 AM
The hoist was an off shore piece of crap( IMHO). Biggest fault was the fact that the hoist was loose in the floor and tilted (not installed properly or torqued correctly) . The operator (not me) put the truck up about 2 foot and stopped, the truck slid forward due to the tilt of the hoist. The truck was recently undercoated which didn't help, but if the hoist was straight it wouldn't have had a slope to slide down.
I don't know what the floor was made of or how far down it was anchored.
Bottom line for sure is that make sure your floor is capable of handling the hoist and make sure it's installed correctly.
Always be careful lifting a vehicle up, because they can come down real fast.
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Absolutely Glen installer was at fault, he inspected a month before, said it was ok. You would think someone who installs hoists for a living should know what he is doing. Mechanics aren't hoist technicians. (although I know a lot more about hoists after that incident).
Guy using the hoist was an apprentice. He didn't deserve that, he was always very careful.
Can't fix stupid, but you can fire them or quit working for them. The hoist installer got an earful from the owner and then tossed out the door. I don't work there any more.
If someone is happy using an off shore hoist, great. I have worked under to many of them to put one in my shop.
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my slab area for the hoist is about 12' wide by 8 feet deep, 5" thick with rebar in it reaching out to the 4" surrounding slab
I had a hoist in mind when I constructed the garage
just hope I kept the in floor heating runs far enough away
:)
-- Edited by Seeker1056 on Monday 25th of November 2013 10:06:31 AM
i have about the same floor spec's you do but mine is 6", but not with re-bar. i put in screen. yours will be probably stronger with the bar. mine is a 2 post off shore 10,000lb for my dually bought from a joint in brighton installed for about 5 grand. as for the insurance issue, when i added the shop to my policy they came and inspected and had no issues with the hoist.
There are some good options to the offshore hoists, and made in the USA. I purchased a WHIP hoist made in Texas. Its all US Steel and welded by licensed welders. It was not much more than the offshore hoists, and I'm not leery to put a truck on it and work under it. I purchased it through Garage Supply in Orillia.
Dubya.....Havent talked to you since the ELTA bash...how are you doin?
I see your hoist is a low mount with floor cables....I had the height so I went with the over head.
Also I dont like pushing the car over the hump.
I also noticed that your arms do not have automatic locks? or am I not seeing right?
I also see you have the truck adapters....handy little buggers eh?
Say Hi to the wife.....I'll be looking for you at the Christmas party
PS ....still love the car!
All is good in the Great White North. But I hear you have more snow down there than we do. I went with the low mount due to a slope ceiling with just under 12ft on the low side. The hump hasn't been much of an issue unless your using a tranny lift.
I drive mine over the hump!!!
It has automatic locks, and I need the different adapters when I put my Avalanche on it. The hot rod uses the shortest.
I see your into a few more projects. I'm finishing off my headliner and interior panels.
Are you going to Detroit?
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