I have acquired a mid to late thirties 3 speed top loader ford trans that would bolt to a flatty. seems stuck from sitting but I will disassemble and free it up. offers or someone might need it? if not taking it to barrie/sterling
Lack of knowledge question here...what exactly makes a Ford trans. a "Top Loader"?
I was kinda under the assumption/impression, that these were a performance issue, late '60's type of trans.
Which, I believe have an access plate at the top of the trans., and also had synchro.
But, I'm no Ford expert. Do you have any pics? Maybe I can forward the info.
I don't have any pics yet but a top loader in my opinion is a tranny with the shifter on top of course, with the linkage, or lack of, on the inside of the transmission. a transmission with the arms on the side is a side loader I would say
I see that's where you got that, perhaps this is fords idea of a top loader but I have heard the gm np465 referred to as that since the shifter goes in the top.
A toploader has the gears loaded and access to from the top . Transmissions such as t 10 etc the gears are loaded and access from the side
-- Edited by 34guy on Saturday 22nd of February 4 09:22:11 PM
but that would also mean the trans I have is a top loader as well since you would also load the gears from the top as well as the gm np 465 which is also loaded from the top. kinda hard to really tell which is correct but given the accepted configurations they are all top loaders so to speak. wheres hemi when you need him? he knows everything about everything.
I see that's where you got that, perhaps this is fords idea of a top loader but I have heard the gm np465 referred to as that since the shifter goes in the top.
Ah Ah! A Chevy guy selling Ford parts, Lol. Get some pics up, I might have someone interested, he's not all that far from you.
In the 60's ford offered two 4 speed transmissions A borg warner t10 and a toploader 4 speed.
The top loader is probably one of the toughest transmissions ever built.
The borg warner t10 gears were loaded in from the side and were weaker then the toploader
So when guy's were selling or talking about their car's ,when it to the transmission's why
they would say toploader or t 10
well what it really comes to is the desire of the transmission gears to move away from each other under load, the case forces them to stay together, a top loader would of course be more durable where a side loaded trans would be weaker. I know truck pulling guys that put 800 horse and im sure obscene amounts of torque to a np 465 and they hold just fine, id like to see a t 10 hold up. thats why they don't put t 10s in mud boggers or pulling trucks I guess
I don't think that's how its called but I may be wrong, to wiki I go!
I think most called them a 3 spd crash box. in reference to the gears as they shiffted
older trannys didn't have syncros, hence the term crash box as they crashed when you shifted so you had to match the engine speed to the driveline when you shifted
ok well here is where im at with it, i removed the top, it is rusty inside but everything turns ok. i would take it apart and give it a good cleaning. the shift rails in the top peice dont move since the detent balls are stuck in the bores. i will remove them when i have a chance. i would take 100 bucks for it. funny im not sure how old it is exactley since A i dont know ford trannys of that era and B it has syncros for second and third gear and heli cut gears for second and third, first/reverse are straight cut. its an odd transmission indeed. i can snap some pics and send them along if you like
