Why would anyone put an old 331 hemi into a 70's Challenger? (Re: the oil pan mod you posted.)

Have to be a member to view the pic's.

-- Edited by 58Chev on Monday 28th of April 2014 09:46:19 AM

Probably because there wasn't a sbc handy at that time 

.. and there was a white 66(7?) sattilite in the beaver lumber parking lot here in scarb back through the 80's too with an older hemi motor

cost or lack of would be the first reason I can think of for these swaps

-- Edited by DJD on Monday 28th of April 2014 11:55:36 AM

near as I can tell - it's a little hard to see , it says VT549-1961C

no extended bell houseing area
no water ports on the front of the heads - has a t stat houseing that kinda looks like an elephant's head - needs eyes and tusks painted on ...

 

is there  a link I could get as to how to post pics here ? - haven't really tryed lookin just yet

-- Edited by DJD on Monday 28th of April 2014 12:49:38 PM

Gazoo wrote:

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Could you give me the numbers stamped at the front of the engine by the valley cover.

V is an early designation Hemi, introduced in 1951.
You have a "VT", which could be many different displacement or year.
What numbers are after VT?
VT 334,336, 338 are 1954, 241ci.
VT 342, 344, 346 are 1954, 270ci.

All other VT stampings are for Poly head engines.
Being a 1954, in may or not have the extended Bell Housing, as this was the transition year.

You are correct in that "VT" designation is for trucks.

I'd be interested in seeing pics, or having a look at it.

 

There is an un-confirmed VT 550, out there, from a 2 1/2 ton truck.

-- Edited by Gazoo on Monday 28th of April 2014 01:21:42 PM

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If it is a dodge red ram hemi (both the 241 and 270 are low deck Dodge Red Rams) then it would never have had the extended bell.  Only the Chryslers had that.  Easy way to tell - look at the side of the engine block - no engine mounts means it is a low deck dodge red ram.  They are the only hemi's with no provisions for mounts on the side of the the block.  Of course, the valve covers or length of the rocker shafts would tell you pretty quickly which hemi family it is from.

VT numbered Hemi's were usually seen in trucks, and they used both dodge and chrysler hemi's depending on the year.  They are the hardest to ID and casting numbers might be easier.

 

-- Edited by RacerRick on Monday 28th of April 2014 01:31:53 PM

Just from a quick search I came up with this, don't know how accurate but from the dodge sites I believe it may be a 354. A partial post from the H.A.M.B.

Note on truck engines; on Chrysler blocks, look for a 'W' cast in relief between the core plugs. This indicates a 354 block although the finished bore may be 331. The 'W' is also found on pass car 354 blocks.

Light Duty Trucks____________________________
These can be Hemi or Poly, some numbers were duplicated
VT-334....... 1954 ....... 241
VT-334....... 1954....... 260
VT-336....... 1954 ....... 241
VT-338....... 1954 ....... 241
VT-338 ....... 1955 ....... 260
VT-350 ....... 1954....... 331
VT-434 ....... 1955-1956....... 260
VT-436....... 1955-1956 ....... 260
VT-444....... 1956 ....... 260
VT-448....... 1956 ....... 331
VT-448....... 1959 ....... 354
VT-534....... 1957 ....... 315
VT-536....... 1957 ....... 315
VT-538....... 1957 ....... 315
VT-544....... 1956 ....... 315
VT-548....... 1956....... 354
VT-549....... 1956....... 354
VT-550....... 1956....... 354
VT-576....... 1958....... 354


Medium Duty Trucks___________________________________
Hemi, some numbers were duplicated
VT-342....... 1955....... 270
VT-344....... 1955....... 270
VT-346....... 1956....... 270
VT-348....... 1956....... 270
VTX-442..... 1956....... 270
C-68....... 1956....... 331
C-72....... 1957....... 354
C-76....... 1954....... 331

OK , due to interest I'm going to try to gather up everything from where it's traped in my pile of stuff so I can be ready for anyone who wants a look-see

hopefully I'll be able to do that today or tomorrow

then I can honestly say sure come on over N check it out

I've sold lots of stuff over the i-net but usually it goes slowly .. forgive me for not being quite so ready

to add,

sadly I've lost the torque converter and clutch plate .. along with a cast iron 460 intake and a nice bit of my scrap metal pile

now I'm even more tempted to get some of that razor sharp fighting kite string and "rig" a nasty surprise for the midnight invaders

yep still have it

still here ... need it gone

moveing , must go,
you , him , the guy loading the scrap car full of metal ...I no longer care
has to go, make offer

no it's just the red paint flaking off showing the black paint under it

not sure of size still

I need numbers for/from the crank I think to figure that out

I'll go up to $60. Another sbc guy

lol
at this rate I might break even by december ...

DJD wrote:

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PRICE DROPED TO $200

2 hun or the scrap pile - either way I want what I have in it back

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Might be best to either change the price in the title or start a new post that has the new price in the title.  There may be people out there who aren't interested in it for $500, might be interested in it for $200, have already been to this post previously and don't feel the need to return because they are unaware of the price drop.  Just blurting out what popped into my head.

PM'd you John, I can come down on Thursday afternoon if you're available.