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BADEN, ONT

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Just got a package in the mail, from the one and only " Belle Province ". hmm

I drove through it a couple weeks ago, on my way to New Brunswick. For the most part I had my cruise set at 99kph, because I've heard how much they are pricks to out of province vehicles.

I kept a really close eye on construction zones and all posted speed limits, sometimes they display on my GPS. I'd even ask my buddy if I wasn't sure.

 

Well somehow the penis munchers got me anyways. I/we never saw any signs warning of "photo radar", probably wouldn't be able to read it anyways.

We saw the flash, and commented about it, but figured naww, we were in a cluster of traffic, following the group, traffic light to traffic light.

I figured photo radar was history.

 

Well there she be, a beautiful picture of my car with Ontario plates, behind a car with Quebec plates, and a car on either side of me with Quebec plates.confuse

They nailed me at 82kph in a 70kph zone.

Here's the kicker;

The fine is $45. ( that's reasonable).

There's a "cost" of $13. ( processing fee ?)

Then a "Contribution" of $14., which apparently used to assist victims of crime.

My total cost for driving through that province $72. I guess that's what they meant by "partial toll route" when a Google mapped the route.cry



-- Edited by Gazoo on Thursday 1st of May 2014 01:55:54 PM

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Wow that sucks thanks for the info we might go that way soon.

 

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I would just decline the contribution of $14.00... thank you and pay the rest....if they word it as a contribution..disbelief



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That photo radar is a shady concept for sure, but eventually it won't be necessary as it will be done through your new cars computer/GPS!

Those tacked on fees resemble that of a Hydro bill. Criminal!

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BELLE RIVER, ONT

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...wonder if the Quebec cars around you were sent similar bills ?

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i dont think you have to pay it since you are not from quebec, unless your plates can be denied.  if you are never going back there i wouldnt bother paying it.



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I got nailed in Spruce Grove, Alberta (suburb of Edmonton) a couple of years ago. They got my trailer plate. 13 over cost $115.....What ya gonna do?

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ask for a court date and the funds to return to defend yourself.



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I just got a 407 bill saying they will deny my tag renewals. (just got new ones in March)

No amount on the bill to say how much I owe, When I called and explained I haven't traveled on that lovely piece of highway in 5 years, Achmed  told me I owed $58 and I would just have to take his word for it!! True story. lmao.

I have had to pay a 407 bill for the last 5 yrs for $38 Every time I get plate renewed. I call and fight with them every year, I have proof I have paid a bill every year..........

Its enough to make me sit on the floor and color pictures of birds with big fat red crayons, so I figure I'm good for another year and then I'll pay the bill then.no........ againdisbeliefevileye



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And they try to get you on automatic payment from your account LOL! Ya right.

 

Achmed has been calling me also. Says I owe them $400 (mostly interest) from a plate I haven't used for 11 years. They have been sending bills to my ex's address. My plate renewals have never been affected.

 

 



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poncho62 wrote:

I got nailed in Spruce Grove, Alberta (suburb of Edmonton) a couple of years ago. They got my trailer plate. 13 over cost $115.....What ya gonna do?


 That same photo radar got me last Spring for the same charge.  It must be preset.

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MANCAVER wrote:

And they try to get you on automatic payment from your account LOL! Ya right.

 

Achmed has been calling me also. Says I owe them $400 (mostly interest) from a plate I haven't used for 11 years. They have been sending bills to my ex's address. My plate renewals have never been affected.

 

 


They have ya by the short ones as they will not renew plates unless it is paid. It was explained license bureau "might not have the most recent total as there is a lag time of approx. 5 months........made sense to medisbelief. It's just not worth having a stroke over. 



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janies dirty 37 wrote:

I just got a 407 bill saying they will deny my tag renewals. (just got new ones in March)

No amount on the bill to say how much I owe, When I called and explained I haven't traveled on that lovely piece of highway in 5 years, Achmed  told me I owed $58 and I would just have to take his word for it!! True story. lmao.

I have had to pay a 407 bill for the last 5 yrs for $38 Every time I get plate renewed. I call and fight with them every year, I have proof I have paid a bill every year..........

Its enough to make me sit on the floor and color pictures of birds with big fat red crayons, so I figure I'm good for another year and then I'll pay the bill then.no........ againdisbeliefevileye


 

 

Phone them back and don't take their crap when they say "you'll just have to take my word for it".  

The 407 knows when someone is entering their highway and when someone is leaving their highway because they take pictures of the plate (and obviously the vehicle).  If you were on that highway, they would have a picture of it.  Demand they send you a picture/print out showing your plate (and vehicle) and the time and date.  After paying the last bill, you should have received a bill showing $0 owing.  If you didn't get a bill showing $0 owing, demand that they send you one, then keep it with your records.  If the 407 can't produce a picture of your plate on YOUR vehicle that was taken AFTER the bill showing $0 owing, they can't bill you for it.  If they are continuing to bill you every year, for a trip you took 5 years ago, their computer is not crediting your account and you need to demand that they provide you with a receipt of payment.

Phone them back and DON'T take their crap when they say "you just have to take my word for it".  

 

   



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Oh I have called back many times, tried all that and it was actually determined they owe me over $150.

Still waiting for the cheque. Still waiting for a picture as well lmao

Try showing the statement showing $0 balance at license office. There hands are tied. blah blah blah. I have even invented new swear words, yelled, been nice, talked to there superior's and spent literally hours on the phone at a time.  I've decided the next time I have to use that stretch of highway I'm going to borrow my neighbours truck and he can  fight with them.wink

It don't make me a bad person..... just a bit of a trouble maker. biggrin

I wonder what happens when someone rents a car up North and drives on 407  ????  Does anyone know how fast they bill and who pays? How do they enforce that?



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Rental company will be crawling up your ass !!!!



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It's got to be cheaper to get new plates if they're stuck in "pay me" mode.....ey're stuck in "pay me" mode.....ey're stuck in "pay me" mode.....ey're stuck in "pay me" mode.....ey're stuck in "pay me" mode.....

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SOUTH RIVER, ONT

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lmao. ya it would be.

But..........They are personalized plates that my Dad bought them for me before he died. They got me the p*ckerheadsno



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teejay99 wrote:

...wonder if the Quebec cars around you were sent similar bills ?


 I was wondering that also, as me and my buddy only saw one flash. I think then can get all the plates off of one pic, as the picture is really clear, digital image for sure.

The license plate numbers and the cars door, and the back glass is blacked out, on the other cars, but enough of the plate is left on blurred to know they're not Ontario plates.

I suppose they could quite possibly nail all four cars for the same speed infraction, confuse, but I have my doubts.



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BELLE RIVER, ONT

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So for 7 mph over , you pay $72 .....is that looking after the public safety or money gouging ? Hmmm. And the " contribution" for victims ....I wonder what is skimmed off the top for the CEO and other execs?

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teejay99 wrote:

I wonder what is skimmed off the top for the CEO and other execs?


 It's Quebec !! More than likely 100%... no



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If I go down East I will go around as I have a very bad taste in my mouth about them

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I'm lucky, never got my passport for Quebec.

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If I go down East I will go around as I have a very bad taste in my mouth about them


 Turn her around then !!biggrinbiggrinbiggrin



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BADEN, ONT

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So I'm going to pay this ticket on the internet...Anyone know what the exchange rate is for Quebec?


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We just got an insurance quote tonight for a new vehicle we're thinking of buying. Wife got a minor speeding ticket 2 years ago, but that didn't affect the rate. We asked what the rate would have been had she had 2 speeding tickets in the past 3 years. They said they would add $220 more to the quote. Holy crap !! Bunch of crooks !! They also said it didn't matter if she was going 4 or 40 KPH over the limit.

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Most insurance cos will allow 2 minor convictions. Get 3 minors and that will generate a surcharge on the primary vehicle.



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My buddy was traveling in SC this winter and was the 2nd in a line of cars that got pulled over for speeding. When he ? the officer he was told that since they were all traveling at the same speed the police could charge all the drivers. He went on line and basically too bad, so sad for him(them).



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!0-15 years ago i had an insurance Co., that allowed all members "ONE" accident without a rate increase.
Sadly it was bought out by another company after it was discovered that a staff member was funneling members premium payments into her own account.
When this happened head office cancelled many of our accounts, and finally the new company reinstated us all, took awhile to sort out as there were many who got cancelled, they had to go through the reinstatements in alphabetical order, it was quite a mess.
Far as i know no one was charged, ( when pulled over for not having insurance.)
Crooked B*tch put the company under.

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another 407 story,several years ago I went to the bank to pay my property tax,easy right, so the teller was trying to sell me a new at the time credit card with a yearly fee,I said no,so just want my bill paid,,so about a mounth later I get a statement from 407 saying I got a credit of 3500 and about 2 days before my taxes were due so I went to the bank and said WTF,the 407 got my tax money how,, so she gets the manager of the bank an says we will call 407 and you can explain the mistake,,so I told them pound salt Pay my taxes you sort it out,They did but according to my 407 account It took the bank 4 months to sort it out,,,how long would it have taken for me a nobody to deal with it,,fxxx 407 fxxx the dumb azz at the bank,,,,

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henrys57wagon wrote:

My buddy was traveling in SC this winter and was the 2nd in a line of cars that got pulled over for speeding. When he ? the officer he was told that since they were all traveling at the same speed the police could charge all the drivers. He went on line and basically too bad, so sad for him(them).


Why would they all pull over? Learned this one on the bike . one stop's the other keeps going . pick one 



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slim wrote:
henrys57wagon wrote:

My buddy was traveling in SC this winter and was the 2nd in a line of cars that got pulled over for speeding. When he ? the officer he was told that since they were all traveling at the same speed the police could charge all the drivers. He went on line and basically too bad, so sad for him(them).


Why would they all pull over? Learned this one on the bike . one stop's the other keeps going . pick one 


 One for all,, all for one,not when it comes to the coppers but they are not all bad,,,got pulled over in maine because the cop pulled out behind an 18 wheeler witch I was following nearly hit me,,he was a state trouper and they can be nasty,pulled me over to appoligize,,and warn me about the county mountys in the next town,,



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BELLE RIVER, ONT

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I'd call my mpp! you know how eager they are to help out the public that voted them in. Specially if you happen to have one of these Nazi liberal (small L on purpose) bastards as a rep. How about these new laws they.ve passed that deny you the right to fight a traffic ticket? so much for innocent until proven guilty. Every one of us should be writing our mpps about this and the hassles the MOE is giving us.

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I guess I'm crossing at Cornwall and heading state side on my trip out east.

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janies dirty 37 wrote:

I just got a 407 bill saying they will deny my tag renewals. (just got new ones in March)

No amount on the bill to say how much I owe, When I called and explained I haven't traveled on that lovely piece of highway in 5 years, Achmed  told me I owed $58 and I would just have to take his word for it!! True story. lmao.

I have had to pay a 407 bill for the last 5 yrs for $38 Every time I get plate renewed. I call and fight with them every year, I have proof I have paid a bill every year..........

Its enough to make me sit on the floor and color pictures of birds with big fat red crayons, so I figure I'm good for another year and then I'll pay the bill then.no........ againdisbeliefevileye


 sounds like you got caught in the same jamb I did a few yrs back . some body modded their plates so they didn't have to pay 407 tolls , but the changed their number so it looked like mine , That plate went on the 407 , during my weeks vaca to Ohio .  ya can,t be 2 places at once . Well , maybe I can . I am kinda special ..77.

 edit note , In the early 80,s we  were mot cross racing in new York state an would go thru la bell provonce . we,d get busted for b s stuff . fixed it by buying a junk trailer for sale on side of the road in Quebec . Took it to scrap yard , kept the plate . Before we would enter Quebec , we would put it on the trailer an didn't get pulled over for anything . for the next 2 yrs ..77.



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I've received 4 differant bills for plates that aren't mine. you have to ask yourself if a system can be that broken of random billing is built into it and they just hope your stupid enouph to just pay the bill. They once sent me a $.05 bill for a late payment charge so I let them send me 6 more before I paid it.



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