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Hi,

Some of you guys already know about THE JALOPY JAM UP that we are putting on August 16th up in Frontier Ghost Town just outside of the town Durham, Ontario and some of you don't. So as one of the show organizers I decided to start a thread to get the info out about the show to those that still don't know anything about the show we have created and are really excited about.

Sitting around in the fall of 2013 we thought about starting something different in the area that we live in and that is when we came up with a one day pre-1964 car show that focuses on traditionally styled Hot Rods and Customs that would possibly be lurking the streets in the 1940s, 50s, and early 60’s. 

Frontier Ghost Town is going to be an awesome backdrop for the show. The price of admission is $20 per person which includes one day show access, overnight camping on the evening of the 16th and three killer bands The Millwinders, The Royal Crowns, and The Hell Bent Rockers which will be jamming out during the day and into the evening of the 16th

Now if your car falls under being a Rat Rods, Art Cars, Muscle Cars, or Pre-64 cars with modern styled or billet wheels, or cars newer than 1964 all it means is that on the day of the show you will be directed to an alternative show lot.

If you guys are unsure that your car would meet the criteria please feel free to email us at jalopyjamup@gmail.com and we will be more than willing to answer any questions that you might have. Over the next little while as things come together we will release more info on this thread.

Pre-registration is going well so far! I will release the preregistration form for you guys later on this week.

 

If you have facebook feel free to check us out.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Jalopy-Jam-Up-a-pre-64-Traditional-Hot-Rod-and-Custom-Car-Show/245140682301416?ref=hl

Thanks

Jay Tyrrell

 

 

 







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So where would I fit in..

just trying to set some examples..



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Hi Fatchuk,

Great looking car. Just from this photo it looks like a traditionally styled custom.
Jay



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Just wanted to give you guys an idea of the venue. This is what Frontier Ghost Town looks like. Each of these out-builds are actual sleep cabins. Most of them have been rented out already for The Jalopy Jam Up. If you are not into camping we do have a few host motels that we can get you guys contact info for.

Jay

 

 

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Here is a quick peek at a few of the Traditionally styled Hot Rods and Customs that have pre-registered for the show already.

 

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Jay...Are you talking about Durham, Ont....or the municipality of Durham, east of Toronto?... I live 5 minutes from Durham, Ont on Highway 6, north of Mount Forest.....and have never heard of this Ghost town



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Hi Poncho62,

I am talking about the town on Durham, Ontario that is located on HWY 6. Frontier Ghost Town is located just north of Durham, Ontario down Grey Road 12. Here is a map that we made for a guy that is coming from the Buffalo, NY area. It was posted on our Facebook site.

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Here is the back of our Promo cards. You can get the full address here and google map the instructions on how to get there from your own home town.

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 Looks to be between Durham and Chatsworth. Could of been a good event to bad they went and messed it up with the traditional crap

 

Frontier Ghost Town is located approximately 2 hours northwest of Toronto, 90 minutes north of Kitchener, and 20 minutes south of Owen Sound.
Looking at a map (link to Google map): - follow Highway 6 north of Guelph and continue north on Highway 6 about 10 km past Durham
- turn right on Grey Road #12
- look for Frontier Ghost Town Camp Ground approximately 1 minute down Grey Road #12 on your right hand side (If you were to continue down Grey Road #12 you would eventually hit Markdale.)



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Hi Slim,

You got the location dead on. Grey Road 12 is located between Durham, Ontario and Chatsworth, Ontario. If you did keep going down Grey Road 12 you would hit Markdale, Ontario.

Jay



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Looking forward to this one. I live 20 mins away and frontier town is a great place to party ;)

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Nice Grumper! We are really looking forward to this event too.

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poncho62 wrote:

Jay...Are you talking about Durham, Ont....or the municipality of Durham, east of Toronto?... I live 5 minutes from Durham, Ont on Highway 6, north of Mount Forest.....and have never heard of this Ghost town


Thanks for the update.,.... Guess I dont get out enough....lol



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lololol Naw I betting that you have driven past it lots but it is back off the road. You will love the venue. If you want stop by and talk with Rick Drumond the owner and he will give you the tour!
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Was talking of coming down but as mine and my buddies cars are more mid 60s Watson builds we decided not.Hope it turns into a great show. I've never fit into the kool crowd anyways.

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Hey Workin Class,

Thanks man for the well wishes. Post some pics of what you guys got. If it doesn't meet criteria so what. Come and party anyway. Never fit into the kool crowd either man lolol

Jay



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slim wrote:

 Could of been a good event to bad they went and messed it up with the traditional crap

 


 Couldn't agree more !!

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Long drive from up Ottawa way. Mine is still in the parts finding stage just picked up the Cragar s/s wheels to day. Paint should be done hopefully for next season. I checked out Durham 6 hours on the 401 each way. Low budget slow build for a low slow driver. lol




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I like the traditional idea.


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workin class wrote:

I like the traditional idea.


 What determines a car to be traditional? Just curious !!



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Long drive from up Ottawa way. Mine is still in the parts finding stage just picked up the Cragar s/s wheels to day. Paint should be done hopefully for next season. I checked out Durham 6 hours on the 401 each way. Low budget slow build for a low slow driver. lol


I hear ya man! We are in this for the long haul there is always next year! Still post up some pics of your progress. Would love to see what you are working on. We once drove a 1950 pontiac with a straight 8 to Chicago for the Hunnert Car Pile Up! Talk about low and slow! I know what you mean! lolololol

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workin class wrote:

I like the traditional idea.


 

  We like the idea of the traditional show too man. We got nothing against an "everything show". I love everything that runs on gasoline and has eight cylinders! I first cut my teeth on muscle cars way back and have owned a lot of production muscle cars. We are just wanting to try something a little different that offers guys with traditionally styled hot rods and customs a venue where they can showcase traditionally styled hot rods and customs that would be hanging around in the 40s,50s, and mid 60s.

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One of the bands that is going to be playing The Jalopy Jam Up is the Royal Crowns!

 

 



Check them out

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What could be more traditional than a Watson style Custom?? Ed

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Millwinders will be playing too!

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I like the traditional idea.


 What determines a car to be traditional? Just curious !!


 We are talking the same crap they spew on the hamb can't stomach the bull. most guys cars on this site are not welcome at this event. frankly my piece of crap will fit but id rather sit at the back of the bus with the rest of you. 



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So is my car traditional ,rat , hot rod where do I fall under??

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I don't know joe those look like radial tires, not a traditional tread pattern and you used the word Rat



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Your right . Most of the cars on this site wouldn't fit the criteria of a traditional show nor would they necessarily fit a all Camaro show, an all Ford show or the Mopar Nationals show. So What . If they want to do their own show why the backlash. I personally love hot rods and Kustoms done in the traditional style.

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There was a Ford show in Cobourg today.Some of you went to the Camero nationals and others rave about the Mopar shows.None of these show would my car be able to enter nor would I want to . The type of enterants they are looking for are there choice. There will probably be something for you someware close that weekend amyway so what is the problem. Ed

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Wouldn't be a problem if they quit beating around the bush .... man up and state your criteria ... if you can tell by a picture, spit it out for christ sake and cut the bull****. I think we can figure out what is required for a ford or mopar show. no point in having someone drive three hours and be told we don't think you're wheels are traditional but you can park over there  and we will take your money to look at what we like.



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Drama, drama, drama......Why do I feel like I am in a soap opera?

The new member listed a show in the events section, simple as that......I am sure that the traditional rule would be quite lax, as long as the pre 64 year and general idea is there. . Otherwise, there would be 2 cars in the show. Even the guys that run the HAMB shows know that. 

 

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Check this out! Danno from the Brantford area will be pinstriping at The Jalopy Jam Up laying down some lines the day of the show.

Jay



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I might be able to shed a little light on what might be "traditional" .I am not trying to say these are the rules as it is there show and there discression as to what gets in but there was a show that ran in the States for a long time called The Hunnerd Car Pileup. I found there rules for entry and this show sounds like it might be similar with there own spin of course. Go to Hunnerdcarpileup.com/criteria/ ,if I could copy and paste I would but I am sure someone here will be kind enough to post a proper link,thanks . Ed

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This will clear it up.

Slang term for an obsolete, worn-down machine or hardware device. Derived from the misspelling of the word "Jalapa", which is the name of some town in Mexico that is famous for the Jalapenopepper, and its former junk-car-scrapping industry.
In the ghettos and the trailer parks, you will even find some people living in jalopies.
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valiant chris stapley.JPGChris Stapleys rendition of my project on a spun disc and my buddies wagon. Not traditional but fun and affordable.

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Copied for Ed from "The Hunnerd Car Pileup"

Criteria

 

Entry Criteria
The Hunnert Car Pileup is a show for traditional hot rods and customs only. This means that to get into the show, your car must be a 1964 or earlier Hot Rod or Custom built in a “Traditional Style.” This means all cars in the show should look like they could have been built in the 1940s, 1950s, or 1960s with little or no visible modern equipment. We are not trying to be elitist or snobby, nor are we judging what is “cool” or “good”. The Hunnert Car Pileup is a show for a specific set of vehicles and style of craftsmanship.

What do I need to know to get my vehicle into the show?

All traditional hot rods and customs that enter the pileup gate will abide by these rules:

1. All vehicles must have at least 2 major modifications done in the traditional style.
A traditional hot rod or custom does not appear to be stock. For entry consideration for the Pileup, vehicles must have at least 2 visible and intentional changes. Changes can include (but are not limited to) lowering, pinstriping, wheel/hubcap changes, paint (e.g., flames, metalflake), etc. Simply bolting something on like different mirrors, drag plates, stickers, etc. does not count. Rust or sagging springs do not count. Rust has nothing to do with traditional hot rods or customs.

2. All vehicles must appear as a traditional hot rod and custom.
This means all cars in the show should look like they could have been built in the 1940s, 1950s, or 1960s with little or no visible modern equipment.

This also means:
a. No art cars, including “shock rods” (*see below)
b. No billet aluminum anything, including wheels, interior and engine parts
c. No modern rims
d. No digital gauges
e. No neon, 80’s style monochromatic paint or mural graphics
f. No IFS on fenderless cars
g. No TPI/EFI (with open hoods)

3. All vehicles must have tires and rims that are reminiscent of the 1960s or earlier.
This is one of the biggest problems we run into every year. Cars with modern rims, low profile tires, etc will not be allowed into the show, no matter how historically correct the rest of the car is.

a. Mag wheels at our discretion
b. No Low-profile tires
c. No modern lowrider wires
d. All vehicles limited to 4 wheels maximum (no duallys/dual axle trucks, etc)

4. Trailers are NOT allowed!
Vehicles seen at Progress City on a trailer will not be allowed into the show, not even in the parking lot. The only exception to this rule is race cars and projects cars that are not street legal (e.g., dragsters) and who have received pre-approval from the Chrome Czars.

5. Entry is at the inspectors’ discretion
We try to be fair, but some cars will get turned away. We have worked hard to establish the “look” of the show and not all cars fit in. That’s what makes the Hunnert Car Pileup so special. The inspectors have the final say. We’ve had problems with inconsistencies in the past, but those problems have been resolved this year.

 



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Bob T wrote:

Your right . Most of the cars on this site wouldn't fit the criteria of a traditional show nor would they necessarily fit a all Camaro show, an all Ford show or the Mopar Nationals show. So What . If they want to do their own show why the backlash. I personally love hot rods and Kustoms done in the traditional style.


 We love them too Bob that is why we are doing this show. 

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Not trying to start any drama but I've run into a few guys in the last few months promoting this event a different shows and they all danced around the subject same as here. frankly I don't care if someone runs an event for gay rodders that don't like spiders. If your going to run an inclusive event , lay out the rules plain and simple. The lack of a solid response tells me they are fishing for people to show up and hope they stay or they don't know them self . If your scared of offending someone Ill assure you they will react better up front then after a three hour drive . I hope you have a successful event But Ill pass. 



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So is my car traditional ,rat , hot rod where do I fall under??

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 Hi 34guy,

Good question! As I stated in the beginning of the thread if you are unsure that your car meets the criteria please email us at jalopyjamup@gmail.com send a few photos of your car so that we can see what you got. Seeing as this is a thread just talking about the show we really don't want to start judging cars in a thread that is simply promoting The Jalopy Jam Up and other car shows in Ontario. Hope this helps Jay



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Chris Stapleys rendition of my project on a spun disc and my buddies wagon. Not traditional but fun and affordable.

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 I see where you are going with your project. Nice. Chris knows about the show and has been really supportive.

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Sorry I wasn't able to respond earlier but I have a nine month old daughter that I wanted to spend some time with after work. For those that already know me you know it is always family first.

So I looked back at the thread and saw that we needed to post our criteria for the show. I know that in the first post that I mentioned the criteria but I can post exactly what we are looking for so that you guys can see what we are trying to achieve with the show. We came up with this criteria long ago and it is posted in a few places.

Jalopy Jam Up Criteria
We have created the Jalopy Jam Up with the idea showcasing pre-1964 traditionally styled Hot Rods and customs that would possibly be lurking the streets in the 1940s, 50s, and early 60’s.

Here Is the Skinny On What We Are Looking For

Suspension:
In the early days of the hobby, true custom Hot Rods and Customs car builders focused on timeless stylistic values that set their cars apart from the rest. They also focused on safety too. Let’s face it if our forefathers back in the day had a chance to have access to a lot of our modern safety features of today of course they would have used them. So this is where we stand.

1. Customs or Lead Sleds with front clips out of another more modern car are ok by us.
2. Disc brakes on Fenderless cars are ok by us too.
3. Fenderless cars should have an an axle
4. No Independent Front Suspension on Fenderless Hot Rods
5. Full Fender Hot Rods we don’t care if they have I .F. S.

Bodies of Hot Rods and Customs:
Let’s face it. We live in Canada and most original steel 20s, 30s, 40s, and 50s cars are long gone victims of rust, scrappers, or are way overpriced. We have no problem with fibreglass cars just as long as they resemble pre-64 hot rod that looks the part.

Paint on Hot Rods and Customs:
1. No easter egg pastel, neon, 80’s style monochromatic paint, painted mural on cars will be permitted in the main show area of the Jalopy Jam Up.
2. Flat black, Flat colors, traditional / factory styled paint colors and schemes are ok by us. 

Tires, Rims and Wheels on Hot Rods and Customs:

Tires:
We are not going to be sticklers on by-ply tires. Radial tires are fine as long as tires do not have white lettering showing on the outside. That is just plain 70s and 80s and doesn’t fit our show criteria.

1. No low profile tires or rubber band style types of tires.

Rims and Wheels:
Again we live in Canada. Most wheels that were produced in the 40s 50s and 60s are long gone and eaten by rust or salt that we subject our roads to every winter.

1. Wheels must be reminiscent to the style of wheels that hot rodders and custom car guys would have used in the 40s, 50s, and mid-60s.
2. No modern style or billet wheels.

Open Hooded Hot Rods and Customs:
Some traditional shows are sticklers when it comes to open hooded hot rods. We are to a point. Here is where we stand on this.
1. We are fine with HEI distributors in open hooded hot rods.
2. No billet pulley wheels are serpentine belt set-up with open hooded hot rods.
3. No multiport TPI/ EFI with open hooded hot rods.

If your Hot Rod has billet pulley wheels or serpentine belt set-ups, TPI or EFI and you still looks traditional you will be directed to an alternative lot. As we have said before. HEI systems are fine.

If your Custom has any of the things mentioned above under the hood we ask you kindly to keep your hood closed on the day of the show for the integrity and respect of what we are trying to accomplish by putting this show on for traditionalists of the hobby. Out of sight out of mind.

If your car doesn’t meet criteria, or is a Rat Rods, Art Cars, Muscle Cars it will be directed to an alternative show lot on the day of the show.

This is a show that we have put time and effort into. It is a show that we are proud of and are looking forward to this August 16th. Please make sure that your car meets the shows requirements. All vehicles will be subject to a final inspection by the show organizers on the day of the show before entering. If you have any questions or you are not sure that your car meets the stated criteria please don’t hesitate to contact us at jalopyjamup@gmail.com. We are more than willing to help you out.
Thanks!
Jay



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Thank you thats perfect. If you copy and paste that to your show page it will save you a ton of problems the day of show. All the best and hope it turns out to be a great show.



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Paint on Hot Rods and Customs:
1. No easter egg pastel, neon, 80’s style monochromatic paint, painted mural on cars will be permitted in the main show area of the Jalopy Jam Up.
2. Flat black, Flat colors, traditional / factory styled paint colors and schemes are ok by us.


Does Dog Spit not qualify? I don't want to drive 500 miles round trip to be told 'no entry'

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If its a traditional show I think they should put you on display Warren.smilesmilesmile

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Does Dog Spit not qualify? I don't want to drive 500 miles round trip to be told 'no entry'

Warren   

 

If they don't let Dog-spit in under the traditional rods Warren..I will park beside you..and decline to my position in the trad spot..       



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wuga wrote:

Paint on Hot Rods and Customs:
1. No easter egg pastel, neon, 80’s style monochromatic paint, painted mural on cars will be permitted in the main show area of the Jalopy Jam Up.
2. Flat black, Flat colors, traditional / factory styled paint colors and schemes are ok by us.


Does Dog Spit not qualify? I don't want to drive 500 miles round trip to be told 'no entry'

Warren


 ??????Warren..,dude.I spoke to about this… of course your invited.

ANYONE can come.There are 3 lots.. daily driver parking.. an alternative lot and the main lot where the traditionally  styled cars are.

If you have any questions,please contact us at jalopyjamup@gmail.com

 

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Jay : I wish I was not going out west to race, as I would have been one of the first to line up at the gate for this show. Only my little my opinion, this one of the first shows of its kind in Ontario.

20 bucks for three bands and a car show as well, Excellent Value !

Too bad some believe they are being discriminated against, however; I don't know if this is really the case. There are three parking lots, one for daily drivers, a second lot for non-traditional hot rods and a third lot for traditional hot rods & customs. What is wrong with a high tech billet street rod, "nothing", however; it will have to be parked in the non-traditional parking area.

I wonder if the organizer advertised there was a special area off to the side for the parking of Ole' Skool Rods & Kustoms for example, would that have created such a storm, I don't think so......

Why not be attend with your vehicle you have poured numerous hours of sweat into and park in the approperiate parking lot ? Nothing nicer than a 60's VW Bug slammed to the ground, however; not a traditional hot rod, and what is wrong with the VW parking in the non-traditional lot ?  Sorry, I fail to understand.....

Warren your ride is certainly a great looking - traditional hot rod and does not have easter egg pastel, neon or 80’s style monochromatic paint ! Drive it just like you did when you were a kid and you will have a blast again.....



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If its a traditional show I think they should put you on display Warren.smilesmilesmile

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 Wow Waren do you own this car? Awesome! Thumbs up here! 

Jay



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Jay : I wish I was not going out west to race, as I would have been one of the first to line up at the gate for this show. Only my little my opinion, this one of the first shows of its kind in Ontario.

20 bucks for three bands and a car show as well, Excellent Value !

Too bad some believe they are being discriminated against, however; I don't know if this is really the case. There are three parking lots, one for daily drivers, a second lot for non-traditional hot rods and a third lot for traditional hot rods & customs. What is wrong with a high tech billet street rod, "nothing", however; it will have to be parked in the non-traditional parking area.

I wonder if the organizer advertised there was a special area off to the side for the parking of Ole' Skool Rods & Kustoms for example, would that have created such a storm, I don't think so......

Why not be attend with your vehicle you have poured numerous hours of sweat into and park in the approperiate parking lot ? Nothing nicer than a 60's VW Bug slammed to the ground, however; not a traditional hot rod, and what is wrong with the VW parking in the non-traditional lot ?  Sorry, I fail to understand.....

Warren your ride is certainly a great looking - traditional hot rod and does not have easter egg pastel, neon or 80’s style monochromatic paint ! Drive it just like you did when you were a kid and you will have a blast again.....

 

Hey man thanks for the support. We hopefully we see you next year!

Jay

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Time for a bump...

Just a thought, kind of interesting in my opinion. I was just looking at this event on The HAMB, nothing but positive comments with kars and kustoms coming from all over Ontario and many great friends coming from south of the boarder.  The thread is alive and well on The HAMB, then we have our own board where the thread has died due to negative contributions I beleive!  Time for a refresh and start over....

I think this could be the beginnings of a show similar to the Lone Star Round-Up !!!!!

Good luck guys, maybe I'll drop some salt in 'yer parking lot from Bonneville !

Oh no, which lot will they park my Belly Tank in? Answer: I don't really care, as long as I am there !   :)



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