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Was at a garage sale yesterday and saw one of those devices that were being advertised about 10 years ago. It was brand new, still in the box with instructions. I didnt buy it, but was wondering if anyone ever had any luck with these things?...and how did they supposed to work?



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Good thing you did not waste your money.

www.wheels.ca/feature/no-evidence-electronic-rustproofing-actually-works/



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just another scam to get your money.



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I know some people swear by these devices. However, I have an anti corrosion device in my car and it is only a 4 year old car and there is rust. Mine was advertised by the dealer as a barrier against rust and corrosion and that rust proofing would not be required for my car as long as I have this device. There is a light on the top of the device and I was told as long as the light on the device was on, then it is working. Apparently not. no



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Got one on the 010 Burban, seems to be working over the past 3 yrs. A little surface rust on frame but that's it????

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It all depends on the make of the device.

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The warranty coverage was better than the device at the dealers I consulted with. Meaning they were snake oil.

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I have one on my DeLorean and no rust after 856 years... you know back and forth in time.

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Playin Hookie wrote:

The warranty coverage was better than the device at the dealers I consulted with. Meaning they were snake oil.


 hocus-pocus



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I don't know about the electronic ones but I know that I have seen vehicles with zinc and magnesium anodes bolted to the frame rails. I have personally seen one of them an 02 chev pick up. no rust anywhere and over 200K on it. I just ordered anodes for mine. I think I am going to try it although my frame has a small amount of rust and missing e-coating.

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Modfather wrote:

I don't know about the electronic ones but I know that I have seen vehicles with zinc and magnesium anodes bolted to the frame rails. I have personally seen one of them an 02 chev pick up. no rust anywhere and over 200K on it. I just ordered anodes for mine. I think I am going to try it although my frame has a small amount of rust and missing e-coating.


 Weird. I always thought you needed to have an electrolyte for sacrificial anodes to work.



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Modfather wrote:

I don't know about the electronic ones but I know that I have seen vehicles with zinc and magnesium anodes bolted to the frame rails. I have personally seen one of them an 02 chev pick up. no rust anywhere and over 200K on it. I just ordered anodes for mine. I think I am going to try it although my frame has a small amount of rust and missing e-coating.


Glad you mentioned Zinc anodes ... I hadn't thought of that in years ...

I remember a science teacher in the 60's saying if they made the car bumpers out of zinc ... people wouldn't have to worry about rust ...

I think they are a fairly common part at marine supply stores ...  West Marine in Ontario / North America ... for boats ...

I think there should be plenty of electrolyte (water & salt) to protect our cars in the winter ... wink

I should get a couple to try out over the next few decades ... smile

Prices run $5.99 - $59.99 depending on size ... various shapes/sizes available ...

http://www.westmarine.com/search?text=zinc+anodes



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I put a Canadian Tire version on my '09 Challenger when I bought it five years ago.  Today I have two rust bubbles about the size of a loonie on each quarter in front of rear wheels.

Don't waste your money on the device.

 



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Don't waste your money on them.
Krown rust proofing every year on my vehicles and the under side is still mint on both my 93 Toyota pick up and my wifes 03 Camry.


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DavidP wrote:
Modfather wrote:

I don't know about the electronic ones but I know that I have seen vehicles with zinc and magnesium anodes bolted to the frame rails. I have personally seen one of them an 02 chev pick up. no rust anywhere and over 200K on it. I just ordered anodes for mine. I think I am going to try it although my frame has a small amount of rust and missing e-coating.


Glad you mentioned Zinc anodes ... I hadn't thought of that in years ...

I remember a science teacher in the 60's saying if they made the car bumpers out of zinc ... people wouldn't have to worry about rust ...

I think they are a fairly common part at marine supply stores ...  West Marine in Ontario / North America ... for boats ...

I think there should be plenty of electrolyte (water & salt) to protect our cars in the winter ... wink

I should get a couple to try out over the next few decades ... smile

Prices run $5.99 - $59.99 depending on size ... various shapes/sizes available ...

http://www.westmarine.com/search?text=zinc+anodes



-- Edited by DavidP on Monday 11th of August 2014 05:23:40 PM

 

yeah my 1970 merc 40 hp outboard motor has a bare zinc fin right above the prop for just this reason

 

lol , I click your link and the first thing I see is one from "canada metal"

there's nothing "canada" about canada metal .. now

they were always owned by americans - my father was a salesman for them for years and years

then he changed jobs - took 40 million in customers with him and they closed down their plant here in T-O shortly after leaveing a polluted property for the city to deal with


 



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Cadmium is better. But I'm a Know it all.

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but do you know it disolves in warm water as was the reason early hemi water pumps failed regularly ?

cadmium contamination in the bearing material

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I strongly recommend them.

I am a Tricor dealer and this brand has a well known track record.

It carries with it a 10 year warranty.


The unit is installed directly to the battery and to the frame and with that installation, negatively charges the metal components of the vehicle, preventing the corrosion from happening from the ground up.

There are a lot of articles out there stating that it doesn't work, scam, etc, etc. My dealership group has been promoting this product for years and have had NO ISSUES what so ever, even on older vehicles.

I have even seen them installed on older vehicles with corrosion starting and this unit stopped the progression of the issue.


Take this info for what it's worth, but I strongly recommend them and will have one installed on my car when I am done with it.


Brian

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The one I saw at the garage sale was a little box about 2 inches square, with a bunch of wires. What I thought was odd was that it had Velcro to mount it to the body of the car. I cant see how that would do anything.



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Fishhooks wrote:

I strongly recommend them.

I am a Tricor dealer and this brand has a well known track record.

It carries with it a 10 year warranty.


The unit is installed directly to the battery and to the frame and with that installation, negatively charges the metal components of the vehicle, preventing the corrosion from happening from the ground up.

There are a lot of articles out there stating that it doesn't work, scam, etc, etc. My dealership group has been promoting this product for years and have had NO ISSUES what so ever, even on older vehicles.

I have even seen them installed on older vehicles with corrosion starting and this unit stopped the progression of the issue.


Take this info for what it's worth, but I strongly recommend them and will have one installed on my car when I am done with it.


Brian


 The part that I get stuck is the vehicles electrical system already does this. the frame and the body are used as a ground back to the battery. even in the off position you will still have some low draw components on.This doesn't seem to deter rust. Am I missing something.?



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Pure modern day Snake Oil. Pseudo science with half truths regarding galvanic corrosion etc. If it were that easy they'd be used on pipelines to prevent corrosion. It's coatings that make the difference and moisture barriers such as oiling. Zinc plating puts the sacrificial anode everywhere which is why it works too. Anodes bolted here and there won't work unless your car is an Amphicar. (For a sacrificial anode to protect the entire car it needs to be immersed in the electrolyte like a boat). I find it disgusting that Ford and GM hawk these bogus devices right at the dealerships on ignorant customers. Yeah, don't waste your money. Fred

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Fred Winterburn wrote:

Pure modern day Snake Oil. Pseudo science with half truths regarding galvanic corrosion etc. If it were that easy they'd be used on pipelines to prevent corrosion. It's coatings that make the difference and moisture barriers such as oiling. Zinc plating puts the sacrificial anode everywhere which is why it works too. Anodes bolted here and there won't work unless your car is an Amphicar. (For a sacrificial anode to protect the entire car it needs to be immersed in the electrolyte like a boat). I find it disgusting that Ford and GM hawk these bogus devices right at the dealerships on ignorant customers. Yeah, don't waste your money. Fred

 


          I just looked up US patent #7198706.  The circuit supposedly puts varying DC pulses with an AC component intermittently across the entire skin of the car on the inside and outside of the skin. I just about ralphed when I read that. Electricity takes the path of least resistance and the ground path will have currents that vary based on metal thicknesses and distance from the source voltage. And it won't just be on the 'skin' of the metal either. I wonder what the ignition system on the car is doing then? Better not touch the car lest you be fried!

         To even come close to what the claims are, the source voltage would have to be spread over the entire area of the car which this device can't possibly do. It's kind of like trying to murder someone having a bath by throwing in the hair dryer. Chances are the current flow will be inside the hair dryer itself as the water shorts it out, or to ground via the metal drain if your pipe is metal. What you clearly want is for the current to pass through your intended victim electrocuting them. But that is extremely unlikely to happen and then you are just as likely to get clobbered with the hair dryer when (she) jumps out of the tub. So, not only is the intended method of current flow on the car's skin an impossibility, you have to believe that if the device could form a pulsating current on the skin of the vehicle that it would prevent corrosion. I do not believe it myself. Fred 



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Build a big shallow tank and fill it with Coke and drive your car through it once a week. That should work lol.



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The current passes thru the drivers skin...... giving the tingling sensation.(aka creepy crawlies)

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Fred Winterburn wrote:
Fred Winterburn wrote:

Pure modern day Snake Oil. Pseudo science with half truths regarding galvanic corrosion etc. If it were that easy they'd be used on pipelines to prevent corrosion. It's coatings that make the difference and moisture barriers such as oiling. Zinc plating puts the sacrificial anode everywhere which is why it works too. Anodes bolted here and there won't work unless your car is an Amphicar. (For a sacrificial anode to protect the entire car it needs to be immersed in the electrolyte like a boat). I find it disgusting that Ford and GM hawk these bogus devices right at the dealerships on ignorant customers. Yeah, don't waste your money. Fred

 


          I just looked up US patent #7198706.  The circuit supposedly puts varying DC pulses with an AC component intermittently across the entire skin of the car on the inside and outside of the skin. I just about ralphed when I read that. Electricity takes the path of least resistance and the ground path will have currents that vary based on metal thicknesses and distance from the source voltage. And it won't just be on the 'skin' of the metal either. I wonder what the ignition system on the car is doing then? Better not touch the car lest you be fried!

         To even come close to what the claims are, the source voltage would have to be spread over the entire area of the car which this device can't possibly do. It's kind of like trying to murder someone having a bath by throwing in the hair dryer. Chances are the current flow will be inside the hair dryer itself as the water shorts it out, or to ground via the metal drain if your pipe is metal. What you clearly want is for the current to pass through your intended victim electrocuting them. But that is extremely unlikely to happen and then you are just as likely to get clobbered with the hair dryer when (she) jumps out of the tub. So, not only is the intended method of current flow on the car's skin an impossibility, you have to believe that if the device could form a pulsating current on the skin of the vehicle that it would prevent corrosion. I do not believe it myself. Fred 


 Thanks Fred.... make note to self ...... Fibreglass tub , plastic drains , cut off ground plug.....smile



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