yes, definitely due to the emissions crap. don't come to any show and shines or cruise nights or whatever in the stouffville uxbridge area if your vehicle is not compliant. its too hard to fine the huge corps and easy to get the guy whose car is more emissions friendly than when it was brand new, but not up to the same emissions as a 1980 vette. sorry went on a bit of a rant there, but it pisses me off. remember anywhere in ontario if you put a newer engine in your classic, it has to have all the emissions that engine originally came with. but there are more cars in southern ontario so the its easy pickings for the e cops.

by the way, do you have or know of any pre 1970 350 blocks or complete engines or anything in between for sale?

Dale

So you are saying that you have actually been stopped in your hotrod for a roadside check By the MOE. I am not interested in what you have heard, any rumours or something that happened to a friends cousins buddy in his 80s pickup. Did you actually get stopped or actually see someone get stopped in a 32Ford or a 57Chevy. The reason I ask is simple I have never been stopped in my 55 or seen any of my rodder buddies stopped in there hobby cars. My son has been stopped many times in his S10 and my grandson in his 2000 tuner Mustang. I hear all the rumours about this and we did a pole a year or two ago on this site and at that time there wasn't one person on this site who had been stopped in a hot rod or other style of hobby car. If its smoking that's a different story and you are asking for it .
if you are worried just put the proper pieces on its not as if it makes any difference to the proformance you need for a street legal car. Now the local cops and the MTO for safety violations is a whole different story. Ed

maybe/probably-let me check

port perry seems to be a target area. a friend of mine was nailed there in his 83 cutlass.....ended up costing him a bundle. you might know him from bridgenorth cruise night pete, his name's lorne - cream colour 83 cutlass.

what's the deal if the casting and stamping numbers are obliterated and they can't read them?

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old school wrote:

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I have not been pulled over personally. Due to I haven't been driving either of my old vehicles for about 2 years. BUT, my buddy got nailed in his 50 something chevy and like DualquadPete, I saw the write up. Honestly though I did not read it as I was trying to change the subject to try to calm him down. He was a bit steamed.
Does anyone know if there is a book or website you can look and check what a say 1978 sbc 350 should have for emmisions. Using its VIN or knowing what the motor came out of?

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 On Chevys there is a Suffix stamping on the pad on the passenger side of the block. There are books available to de code these to help narrow down the best candidates for swaps,I got the

M S A-1 casting and suffix books for big and small chevys.

dualquadpete wrote:

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flatblack55delivery wrote:

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 If its smoking that's a different story and you are asking for it .
if you are worried just put the proper pieces on its not as if it makes any difference to the proformance you need for a street legal car. Now the local cops and the MTO for safety violations is a whole different story. Ed

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Friend of mine got "nailed' at the beer store parking lot in Port Perry a mth. ago, 2 1/2 pages of "write up"  68 Beaumont with later engine & "nothing" on the car!!!  Yes it's real, saw the write up sheet  84 Vette engine in it, but they did give him a time frame to "fix it" or take it off the road!!!!!  He just bought the car this summer, so has added the req. stuff at great cost & totally 'pi$$ed" that they snuck up on him posing as a "interested in old cars person" then "NAILED" him!!!!  Found out that it is "ILLEGAL" to sell a car that doesn't meet the Emm. regulations in Ontario whether old or new, but expensive to go back on seller!!!! 

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         This it

         http://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/oshawa-durham-region/1969-beaumont-fuel-injection/1009349374?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true    

Ok. On SBC engines it's easy. The engine code is 3 letters (CKY) for cars and it starts with a

"T" for trucks 1970 and newer while 1969 and older are 2 letters (DZ) for example.

 

-- Edited by Jess on Tuesday 26th of August 2014 12:00:54 PM

-- Edited by Jess on Tuesday 26th of August 2014 12:01:58 PM

What's required ?   I don't know what they want.   Chevrolet used the decade as a break in the engine codes and went from 2 letters to 3.  Usually GM of canada had the cast date on the side of the block near the starter while US blocks were cast on the web for the bellhousing .

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So from what has been said, if the motor (sbc) only has 2 letters in the code it is 1969 and older. Truck engines start with a T. Do 1969 and older truck engines also only have 2 letters in the code.
I had a 1978 chev pickup and got pulled over. the officer immediately slid under the truck and when he came back up he asked the year of the truck. I said 78, then he asked what month the truck came off the line. I asked him why and he said trucks didn't require catalytics until late 1978. Of course I replied it came off the line early, one of the first. Still got the high speed driving award. Anyway, if it is a truck motor, does this mean you can have say a motor up to 1977 and not require much emmisions?

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Ya, I bought my 31 ford in Thunder Bay and drove it home. Probably don't have the bill of sale anymore. If I did, pretty sure it didn't list specifics like engine serial # or tranny info or rearend info just "I (sellers name) have sold my 31 fprd serial number (insert 8 digit number here) to Dale for $xxxx.xx on this date. No one thought the government would be such You Know Whats 20 something years down the road. I was thinking of a screaming 283 for the Model A but a high revving engine doesn't help fuel mileage. & no torque

www.kijiji.ca/v-engines-and-engine-parts/london/1956-265cid-small-block/1009000535

www.kijiji.ca/v-engines-and-engine-parts/london/2-283-engines/1011662892

there is still some around,,,,,,,,,,,,,

I can see parts availability being a problem for some of our chain stores but a speed shop or Summit , Jegs in the states should have everything needed at a reasonable price. As far as lifting the front wheels with a 283, should be no problem in a Model A. Tires, gears and wheelie bars required.

how's this for a business idea; have a bunch of cats, egr's, charcoal canister, anything they put on from the factory for emmisions. have a book that lists what different cars came with for each year. starting from 1970 and going up.
a customer walks in, says he has a motor out of a 76 monti. you just look up the year and the car in the book and sell him everything he needs to be emmisions legal.
Not sure what to call the shop.
if you were mechanically inclined also have a shop to install.

Keeper
i can't seem to find either on kijiji

www.kijiji.ca/v-engines-and-engine-parts/city-of-toronto/sbc-327/1004216600