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WELLESLEY, ONT

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After much research I figured I "need" an E Wheel,   Buy the P.A. POS ?  Naaaaa, , talked to everyone that I could and figured I'm gonna build my own, Why the Hell Not??  I gotta quit watching those dam TV shows that build beautiful rides in 40 minutes.  That "I can do that" attitude gets the better of me more and more these days.  For better or worse, its on like Donkey Kong,   Ive got my base completed and was hoping for some input and maybe even some insightful constructive criticism if I've made any obvious oversights.  

I researched the crap out of this and stole any idea's that I deemed useful,  drew it up on the compuutr thingy an down the road with my zippy drive to the Amish ( they have $500 000 waterjet in the barn, who'd a thunk it?).  A day later I got a pile of metal plates n pieces, get'r dun!!!

 

Well here's what I got done this weekend.  The center core is welded solid but the legs are just bolted on so I can redesign/rebuild them if they prove insufficient.   I've made two mounting plates on the front in an attempt at a modular system and maybe adapt more tooling in the future, possibly a home built bead roler and a planishing hammer. Have a look and please, DONT HOLD BACK...

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Love it,…. if nothing else.a great piece of art!.. I really like it.


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That's awesome right there! I should point out though, that it looks a lot more like a "C" wheel to me - Hey, you did say "don't hold back"!!!winkwink



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I think it looks great. Can't wait to see the different tooling you decide upon.

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Looks awesome, Lots of wheel info at www.allmetalshaping.com, but you've probably been there already
That's an item that's on my wish list
It's amazing what's in those Amish barns

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Agreed, real nice piece of work!! Really like the graceful curves on the legs. Sweet!

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Excellent work!



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I've got about 12 hrs into those dam legs, if I had to do it again I'd just use the box channel and be done with it. I had the leg profiles cut and then bent 16 gauge flat pieces to partially box them in, lot of time spent to look fancy but not any more functional. Hoping to have it powder coated this weekend.  I'v come to realize that this is going to be more costly than the Chinese version, but then again what isnt.  Hoping to have a buddy machine the top wheel and planning to buy a set of the lower anvils.  I like the Hoosier Profiles Lower set, runs about the same cost as the complete Chinese E wheel.  I'm no expert but from what I can see so far the extra cost I've bitten off to PretEngineer and fabricate this thing is sooo worth it.  

 

Any one got a 9" in dia. X 3" slug laying around ?   



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The wheel looks fantastic, nice job! How deep is the throat?

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Throat is approx. 26 in as the wheels are set forward a we bit in front of the modular mounting plates. Spent most of the day today fabricating the supports for the top wheel and prepping for powder coat. A friend suggested I should mount the shrinker stretcher on the rear of the frame, so back to the drawing board.

Here is one of the earlier renderings, jest getting started with autocad. Its great to model on the computer, yu can solve alot of design problems before you ever touch a piece of material. If you look here you can see that the original leg configuration wasn't balanced very well. Did an analysis to find center of gravity and sure enough, the dam thing wouldn't even stood up on its own.

 

 

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BAMBAM wrote:

I've got about 12 hrs into those dam legs, if I had to do it again I'd just use the box channel and be done with it. I had the leg profiles cut and then bent 16 gauge flat pieces to partially box them in, lot of time spent to look fancy but not any more functional. Hoping to have it powder coated this weekend.  I'v come to realize that this is going to be more costly than the Chinese version, but then again what isnt.  Hoping to have a buddy machine the top wheel and planning to buy a set of the lower anvils.  I like the Hoosier Profiles Lower set, runs about the same cost as the complete Chinese E wheel.  I'm no expert but from what I can see so far the extra cost I've bitten off to PretEngineer and fabricate this thing is sooo worth it.  

 

Any one got a 9" in dia. X 3" slug laying around ?   


 I believe I can find a door stopper that size. I'll have a look.



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Ohh that would be awesome Gazoo, stop over some time...

 

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Looking good.
Don't forget some sort of dowel pin. so when you change out the attachments and put them back. They always go in perfect alignment. (thinking out loud)

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Ohh that would be awesome Gazoo, stop over some time...


I had a quick look today. I found lots of 8"-8 1/2" dia., 300M and 4340 steel. If that'll work for you let me know.
I've sent you a PM, I'll be at work tomorrow and Sunday, if you want to come see them. And I'll give you a shop tour.

Would love to take you up on that offer, but I've been extra swamped, with the planning etc...of our new 100,000 square foot facility in Cambridge (phase 1). Trying to get it operational for mid Jan.

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Wheel is looking great.. Almost have mine finished too but did not get all fancy with the designs, will have to make up for it with PINSTRIPING I guess,lol!

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Thanks Chris, have you used your wheel much? How does it work? Where did you get your anvils?

LOVE THE RF FRIDGE...


I've since found a better model to copy if anyone else wanted to give it a go. Found this one online, don't remember where but it is a much simpler design.  Base is much easier to fabricate and probably more stable than my design.

 

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Your frame looks great and should work well. I was just wondering though ... is there any benefit to your design (just talking in general) over building the frame using heavy wall, square or rectangular tubing and plenty of triangulation? (like the one I have pictured). Is it just for aesthetic value or does it work out to be cheaper (or the same) in the long run, or stronger, compared to building it out of tubing. 

I honestly can't see one design being better (or worse) as far as functioning goes, than the other.




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Hey Bambam,
havent used it too much at all actually, went right from finishing the welds on this to powering a bead roller, swapping a motor in my snowplow bike, to putting in a furnace ,ceiling and insulation in the shop to building a fireplace for my wife.. Hoping to have everything sort of up and running over the holidays,have a full week to squeeze in before I lose I ... Was actually trying to get the final wiring etc.. Buttoned up on the bike tonight so I will have a trouble free winter of snow plowing,,,fingers crossed!
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Thanks Chris, have you used your wheel much? How does it work? Where did you get your anvils?

LOVE THE RF FRIDGE...


I've since found a better model to copy if anyone else wanted to give it a go. Found this one online, don't remember where but it is a much simpler design.  Base is much easier to fabricate and probably more stable than my design.

 

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Gord the real big difference between Bambams design and one like mine and Ron Covells is just this, his is sexy,ours are the ugly step sisters who one have one function, to form metal,lol... They all work about the same when strengthened and gusset-ed properly.. I was fortunate enough to run in to a length of 5/16" thick wall 4"x4" and it worked out very nice for my purpose, had I access readily to a CNC plasma table the day I started building, I too may have went that route ,but when I start, I usually start any project with whatever is starino at me ,daring me to use it... It's the artistic (autistic?) side of me... I will say this, that monster of Ron Covells here in this photo (blue unit) must be made to roll out roof skins, look at the depth of that sucker!
pint and a pound wrote:

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Your frame looks great and should work well. I was just wondering though ... is there any benefit to your design (just talking in general) over building the frame using heavy wall, square or rectangular tubing and plenty of triangulation? (like the one I have pictured). Is it just for aesthetic value or does it work out to be cheaper (or the same) in the long run, or stronger, compared to building it out of tubing. 

I honestly can't see one design being better (or worse) as far as functioning goes, than the other.



 



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Here is one being built out in BC.



And one with a multi function head.



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re: pint,

I went with the laser cut profiles to try and reduce all the welded sections, and headaches of keeping everything true during welding. I have basically limited the main body to the four welds that attach the modular mounting plates to be the crucial welds requiring any alignment. The rest of the main body welds are just structural.

One of the main complaints of the chinese wheels is that they flex under loading, so I wanted mine to be stronger. We'll find out

re: 58chev

love that bead roller setup, thats sorta what I have in mind but way down the road. Too many projects on the go, I GOTTA FINISH SOMETHING SOON

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Polish , or Powder ???   aluminium sure does polish up shiney.  Gettin cariried away, but what hell,  all that glitter will hide all my goofups.

 

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Off to powder coat tonight



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NORTH BAY, ONT

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Darn nice workmanship!! Great postings!!

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I'll have that "door stop" at home for you tomorrow. 4" wide by 8 1/2" dia. piece of 300M.
Keep practicing with the powder coating, you never know when it could come handy.wink



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Big Baby Blue

 

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Gazoo wrote:

I'll have that "door stop" at home for you tomorrow. 4" wide by 8 1/2" dia. piece of 300M.
Keep practicing with the powder coating, you never know when it could come handy.wink

 

The powder coating is the easy part.  Just like bodywork, your finish is only as good as your prep work.



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Gazoo wrote:

4" wide by 8 1/2" dia. piece of 300M.


 

That should be on heavy little slug of metal .... might want to leave it in your trunk for winter traction, then machine it into the wheel come spring biggrin



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Out of the oven, it looks to good get dirty!!!

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NIAGARA FALLS, ONT

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Looks like a piece of candy. Sweet!

26" is a decent sized throat and you should be happy with the lack of flex it'll experience as compared to the offshore models.

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Very KQQL... Design is very pleasing to look at and has great function as well !

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Looks great !!
I'm still very jealous
Did you powder it yourself ?
That oven looks a lot like my homemade one lol

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It is home made with proper controller, works amazing. Makes good pizza to..

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Wow, great piece of work, looks amazing after the powder coating!

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It's ALIVE...

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Well sorta,  it works but I'm not happy with the free play in the screw jack assembly.  I'm going to turn some more profile wheels and rebuild the bottom half with a little more rigidity.

Measure twice, cut once.  Re-Engineer and start all over again...  AAARRRGGGGHH



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Looks good! It's a good thing it's bolted to the frame, at least it's serviceable.

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Looks good Brad! Tweaking is all part of the fun of creating your own wheel.

Just wondering, what kind of threads does your adjuster have?

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Vision, you have an acute eye for detail,

Twenty five years ago I pulled a big honking vise from the scrap pile in the back of a speed shop in New Hamburg, (hope they don't mind, can you imagine the interest).  I had a new thread cut to repair it and got twenty plus years of use out of it.  The vice was replaced last year and is now continuing  to serve me as an anvil, salvaged the threads for the e wheel on a suggestion from a friend that I use a square thread rather than a standard V thread. It's 1 1/4", nice and beefy.

disbelief YES, I AM A PACK RAT disbelief, (but i'm getting better).  

Also today, after busting the running board off my pickup I made a cool shelf out the one good one that I removed, looks great in the shop.  Yesterday my son and I found an old turntable in the electronics recycle container at the local hardware store, when nobody was looking, in the truck it went.  Couple of minor adjustments and my son is now collecting vinyl records.  

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That's one sexy wheel.


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Old thread, I know but I just got here LOL.

That thing is a work of art!

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