1932 FORD HOT ROD

BIG BLOCK BILL · OTTAWA, ONT

1932 FORD HOT ROD

wuga · PRINCE EDWARD COUNTY, ONT

I have read on several forums that it is no longer possible to import a glass bodied Hot Rod into Canada, not built to Canadian safety standards or something like that, but steel bodies are OK. Here is a link to a thread where it was well discussed although with a BC point of view, but it might help.
www.canadianrodder.com/forum/showthread.php

Warren

427CARL · CLINTON, ONT

Anything over 15 years of age is not subject the the Canadian RIV program biggrin

Proof of year and tax on purchase is what they want ......

General

Vehicles over 15 years old

All vehicles (except buses) that are 15 years old or more from the date of manufacture, are exempt from the Registrar of Imported Vehicles (RIV) program. You must be able to prove the age of the vehicle to the Canada Border Service Agency (CBSA). Buses (including school buses) manufactured before January 1, 1971 are also exempt from the RIV program. More information about RIV exemptions.

Marten · RICHMOND, ONT

Not sure how things work for glass bodied cars. Just did this with my 53 Ford pick up. We used Pacific Customs Broker. You need to get all paperwork they ask for to them somehow. I think we faxed or e-mailed it. Everything has to be at the border crossing 72 hours before you cross. Some border crossings want originals and some just need the custom brokers paperwork. We wanted to go through Ogdensburg but they wanted originals for 72 hours. Ended up going through Alexandria Bay/1000 island as they would accept customs paperwork. What we ended up doing was having a bill of sale sent to us from the owner even though we had not officially bought the truck. Also had a copy of the registration sent to us. From there everything was sent to broker and they looked after it. Allow lots of time as there is a bunch of paper and questions to answer from your broker. We (my wife more so then me) probably spent about 15-16 hours over the course of a week and a half with the broker and original owner to get everything correct. Part of the challenge for us was the truck not being in the owners name and the other part was that in New Hampshire they don't issue registration cards for old vehicles.
Hope this helps.
Marten

parklane · St THOMAS, ONT

I believe that Warren is correct, and that importing a glass car into Canada, is now a no, no.

BIG BLOCK BILL · OTTAWA, ONT

Thanks for the info guys!

slim · DUNDAS, ONT

Kit cars less then 15 years of age are not admissible into Canada. Glass or steel Yet you can register them in Ontario with an assigned vin...? I think the problem lie's proving to the border agent this is what you have . the serial or vin on the paperwork will need to match the the car. If it has an original ford frame with good numbers or an assigned Vin from NYS then you are good all the border agent is concered with is matching paper work as proof thats what he /she is allowing in. By the wording it could still be a crap shoot depending on the agent.

THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE WITHOUT NOTICE - TRANSPORT CANADA AND THE REGISTRAR OF IMPORTED VEHICLES DOES NOT GUARANTEE ITS ACCURACY. Jul/24/2015 Edition

VEHICLE TYPES	ADMISSIBLE	INADMISSIBLE	NOTES
All vehicles(except buses) FIFTEEN (15) YEARS OLD OR OLDER	All are admissible, provided they have not been substantially modified (see notes)		Importer must be able to provide proof that the vehicle is fifteen (15) years old or older as determined by the month and year of manufacture.

Kit CarsLESS THAN FIFTEEN (15) YEARS OLD (assembled or unassembled)

None are admissible

From MTO

Custom Vehicles - Kit Cars / Rebuilt Vehicles
With respect to custom cars, the Ministry of Transportation does have specific registration requirements for kit cars and rebuilt vehicles. Information on registration requirements for a kit car or rebuilt vehicle is below.

Kit Cars
Definition: a complete body of a motor vehicle, not including an engine, chassis or drive train. Kit body is a replica of an existing or vintage motor vehicle.

Kit cars are registered in Ontario as:
V.I.N.: Assigned as "ASD" if no 17 -digit V.I.N. on dashboard of kit body
Make: Manufacturer of kit
Model: KIT
Model Year: Year that the kit car was completed and registered with the ministry. If there is not an existing 17-digit V.I.N. on the dashboard, you may request the licence office to provide you with a ministry assigned V.I.N., which you should affix to the dashboard. A V.I.N. is needed before you can obtain a Safety Standards Certificate.

Rebuilt Vehicle
Constructed using various main component parts (body, chassis or frame) obtained from other vehicles or from auto wreckers, dealers or manufacturers, and whose vehicle identification number (V.I.N.), make, model or model year has been affected by this reconstruction. Rebuilt vehicles are registered in Ontario as:
V.I.N.: Of body of the vehicle (CHASSIS/FRAME V.I.N. is not used). If there is no longer an existing V.I.N. on the dashboard, you may request the licence issuing office to provide you with a ministry - assigned as RBT V.I.N., which you should affix to the dashboard. A V.I.N is needed before you can obtain a Safety Standards Certificate.
MAKE: Manufacturer of body of the vehicle (CHASSIS/FRAME manufacturer is not used)
MODEL: RBT
MODEL YEAR: Year that the motor vehicle car was rebuilt and registered with the ministry.

Homemade Vehicle
Constructed without using manufactured main components (e.g. body and chassis / frame both made from scratch), and therefore has no V.I.N.
NOTE: This designation is primarily for homemade trailers, constructed by the owner.

Homemade vehicles are registered in Ontario as:

V.I.N.: assigned "HOM"
MAKE: HOME
MODEL: HOM
MODEL YEAR: Year the homemade vehicle was built and registered with the
ministry.

BIG BLOCK BILL · OTTAWA, ONT

Thanks Slim.

BIG BLOCK BILL · OTTAWA, ONT

I've narrowed down my search to '32 Ford hot rod in Texas.It was built 16 years ago,has a glass body but sits on an original '32 Ford frame.The V.I.N.is only 9 digits.?'s----since it was built over 15 years ago I can import it into Ontario,before getting a safety check I have to get M.O.T.to assign me a proper V.I.N.--what's involved to do that and the cost?The engine is a 1980-85 350 s.b.--will it need an e-test?And anyone dealt with TFX Transport?I was going to use them to haul the car and be my agent at the border to take care of business.Any help with these questions would be appreciated guys as I'm a newbie to the hot rod world.One other thing that I've noticed---why are so many rods sold shortly after they are built or are re-sold shortly after being bought?Thanks,Bill.

wuga · PRINCE EDWARD COUNTY, ONT

Because people buy a car because it's cheap but not necessarily the one that they want or their wife nags them 'why did they spend 40k on a car that you hardly drive' or they build something using parts they didn't really have a passion for but were handy and the car ends up not meeting expectations. There are lots of guys on this site driving cars they love and have had for years and maybe decades. This hobby is not for everyone.

Warren

BIG BLOCK BILL · OTTAWA, ONT

Thanks for your in-put Warren.Is it also because sometimes the rod's builder spends too much on the build and is in over his head so he has to sell shortly after the car is finished?Because I'm sure most of us are guilty of overspending on our cars.

wuga · PRINCE EDWARD COUNTY, ONT

Yuuuuuuup!

slim · DUNDAS, ONT

Some of the early 32s would of started with AAB that would have brought the count up to 9

here is some information on serial numbers A and B 4 cylinder

http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/ABenginenumbers.htm

model 18

http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/flathead_serialnumbers.htm

if the numbers stink or the stamping looks fishy . id leave it alone

iron horse · HAMILTON, ONT

Hey Bill, I bought a 1930 Ford 5 window coupe off of a fellow in the US. He said that he builds them as a hobby. He showed me a binder of pictures of 20 cars in various stages of construction, he's built over the years. He just builds them and sells them, says it keeps him busy.

Marten · RICHMOND, ONT

I think that buying, building and selling is different for everyone. I had a neighbour that built beautiful rods but never drove them. Like to build and then sell them, using the funds to build the next one. I see some people hold on to their rod for a long time as well. 100 people with hot rods and 100 stories.