Rare and valuable are at opposite ends of the spectrum. Rare is a low availability and valuable is driven by a large demand. Lada is an extremely rare car in Canada so does that mean there valuable?? I would hope not as I do not know anyone on this gods green earth that wants one. So if you have one for sale if you are not giving it away it will probably be in your estate auction.
Rare is also not always caused by low production numbers. During WW2 the big Full Classic cars were scraped for the war effort because of being hard on gas + gas rationing. The later 30s coupes were used in stock car races years ago so many were destroyed that way. This cause of rarity drove up the prices for example Packard and Ford roadsters as they were popular then and popular now, demand and supply.

i have 3 Canadian only vehicle because of low production number could be classed as rare. A 63 acadian beaumont wagon with production less then of 800 made. a 70 pontiac 2+2 convertible with production of less then 300. and a 55 gmc. i know they made lots of gmc's in the states but the canadian ones are on chevy drivetrain. the model number of the truck is 9300 and is the equivalent as a 100. gm canada also kept the stats of vehicle production and you can get that info from them for a fee. the truck is also called a second series because they carried the 54 body style over for a half year because of a strike. this one also is the 9th gmc made in canada of that body style. for that matter i've never seen another 55 2nd series gmc on the road in the 30 years that i've owned the beast. rare yes valuable maybe not.

This is rare.  Too red for me though.

 

-- Edited by chips on Tuesday 1st of December 2015 09:10:03 AM

Agreed it seems that these days anything from the 70s and older is listed as rare on Kijiji. That's what prompted me to ask the question. If they made a million of them in the first place how could that be rare. Look at the Model A and say 58 Buick wagon, with the availability of repop parts, which is really the rarer vehicle. On the other hand, desirability, more than rarity, I think sets prices. If its rare and nobody wants it , not much value as far as I am concerned. Ed

 

 

"Rare" and "Patina" Put those two words together and now you got something!!!

 

FOR SALE

Rare, Early 60's Chevy Truck, Nice Patina, Ran when parked

asking one kajillion dollars...obo

Lol

Sometimes people even use the words "Rare and Desirable" together, to really drive the point home

-- Edited by Moobster on Tuesday 1st of December 2015 11:18:30 AM

With 50's cars I think the early 50's Plymouths and Dodges fall into the category of rare ( these days ) but not valuable . They were behind the others in styling , power , etc .

You hit it right on the head Ed. The key word is desirable hmmm I may have to use that word in one of my next Kijiji ad's. I think I like that better than rare  As a matter of fact I get offers on my 49Chev all the time and not because it is rare but because it is desirable. The only thing is I have no desire to part with it lol

-- Edited by Modfather on Tuesday 1st of December 2015 01:20:25 PM

A good BJ is rare.

Some of the cars on this very site are both RARE and DESIREABLE !! -- Too bad we couldn't get several of them together at one place / same time -- Now that would be a show !! _--- LATER -- DON / Fleet 51

rare is a hard thing to define .
but here,s my problem with : desirable : , people walk up to me all the time , oh I love your truck ,,, Is it for sale ????. its just a beat up old survivor hot rod with only tires an oil changes done since built in 1975 to 1977 . BUT nobody wants to give me any money for it and they probably wouldn,t enjoy driving it , cause its kinda bare bones no heat no ac no carpet headliner radio etc etc .
so how do you differentiate desirable from valueable ????
the only thing that's valuable is some thing some body is axeually gonna pay you for , cash in hand , once its gone its changed to history .
desirable is just a flight of fancy , some body with too much money decides oooooohhh I,ll pay 5 million dollars for something ... an it could be the fugliest pos you ever seen .
Like people paying big bucks for rat rods that have a fork , a spoon and a butter knife , for the clutch , brake an shifter . Ya , try an figger that one out .
Note , no offence intended towards rat rodders , or people that think theyre stuff is valueable , desirable , or worth 5 million dollars an I dint even call my truck ... the fiddy ...ooooops ..77.

I bought a 58 Pontiac Pathfinder 2 door wagon in 87, and towed our sons 70 Mustang SCJ back from Vancouver.

Had the chance to buy it last spring, but it wasn't in too good a shape any more, so I passed.

 

 

 

 

Modfather wrote:

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You hit it right on the head Ed. The key word is desirable hmmm I may have to use that word in one of my next Kijiji ad's. I think I like that better than rare  As a matter of fact I get offers on my 49Chev all the time and not because it is rare but because it is desirable. The only thing is I have no desire to part with it lol

-- Edited by Modfather on Tuesday 1st of December 2015 01:20:25 PM

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 to me this is the sense of it all, " The key word is desirable hmmm"  and that usually translates into more $$$. you can have 2 same yr and make similar condition cars with one being a 2 dr, ht, big block and the other a 2 dr sedan 6 cyl and the h/t big block will usually sell for more and faster. its not that the 6 cyl isn't as rare as the other, sometimes more, but the h/t big block appeals to more people which in turn usually makes it more desirable. don't get me wrong as there is still a lot of people who would rather have the 6 cyl sedan  but the majority will be on the h/t big block which means more $$$ and a faster sell. 

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 On the other hand, desirability, more than rarity, I think sets prices. 

Always wanted a '57 Chev 2 door. Would be as old as me,anyway the prices are driven by like Ed said 'desirability'. The same with '66-'67 Nova and the SS models. My '66 Canso SD was "rare" ( 1 of 521 ) and now my present car is "desireable"   (well over 150,000 built)       ?     

Now don't get your panties wrapped around your ovaries......just smile

Rare= I have it, you don't
desirable=I hate the POS but maybe you'll buy it!
barn find= free 3rd world rodent disease included.
survivour= was voted off a tropical island because of too much salt air rust.
Valuable= when scrap hits $400/ton, sell, sell, sell !
Tribute=I hope you are too stupid to realise it's a fake.
Frame off resto (on a uni-body car )=I am an idiot and got screwed
Frame off resto (full frame vehicle) = body mounts rotted off
Patina = I watch idiots over pay for crap on TV
1 of 1 = only have a
Demo= drunk salesman hit a pole
rental= weekend raced
Executive driven= BJs while driving (some good, some excellent)
Trailer queen=a)Trailer park won't let me build a garage,
b)"My garage matches my house"
c)I wanted in several countries.
Appraisal= a purchase order from your insurance company.
3/4 cam= from a V6
Stage 1 kit= first one on the list
Fart can=import owner's burial urn
NOS=7 extra gears for your 5 speed or the ability to turn a 1/4 mile into 1 mile.
Rice rocket=revenge for an atom bomb
Rat rod= too cheap to paint it or "I know a blind guy that does safeties"
Etest=then end to automotive history.

Check out Kijiji Classic Cars if you want to see " Rare ",...( from very rare,..to ultimate rare ),...and most generally in the form of,.. Mazda,....Mercedes,..Triumph's,..MG's,...VW's,...Jaguar,....you name it,......

-- Edited by cheyenne on Wednesday 2nd of December 2015 04:54:34 PM

showed that salesman,,,,,, HUH

TMJ

This is a example of rare. Comes complete with a price to prove it'

Date Listed	09-Dec-15
Price	$650,000.00
Address	Guelph, ON N1C 1B5   View map
Make	Porsche
Model	356
For Sale By	Owner
Trim	D
Body Type	Convertible
Transmission	Manual
Year	1959
Colour	Red
Kilometers	20000
Drivetrain	Rear-wheel drive (RWD)
Fuel Type	Gasoline
No. of Doors	2
No. of Seats	2

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/oakville-halton-region/rare-original-1959-porche-356-d/1124894817?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

-- Edited by toomuchjunk on Thursday 10th of December 2015 06:15:28 AM

Thanks to places like China and Korea cars like the 1968 Shelby are not rare like they once were. There is probably more on the road now than in 1968.

honest politician, now that's rare......... and they are coming out with a new $4 coin with trudeau's head on it and real hair.

In the 60s I worked in the local Pontiac GMC dealership and did all the PDIs. I got to drive all the new cars that came through. One I would consider " rare " was a 1967 Pontiac Laurentian Station wagon . I cant remember the engine, 283 or 327,it was a small block for sure. It had a bench seat and 4speed tranny with a posi rear end. I think that was pretty rare.

My brother in law had this wagon. A guy who's son was in a wheelchair, had ordered it. It has the Super Bee front end, 383 and 4 speed with the pistol grip

Or advertised for sale with the ultra rare car built as 1 of 600 made cars with a built in cup holder or taxi cab yellow paint job or what ever of the 3,000,000 production built.

Rare? Low production number car? In 73 I bought a used 71 Camaro, SS 396/ 4sp, non posi, standard steering,  that a fellow ordered with one piece front bumper, no consul, no spoiler, no stripes, plain steel rims with dogdish hubcaps. I traded it in on a 72 Chevelle Nomad to tow my 67 stocker drag wagon and it ended up in a telephone pole not long after.

i have done some snooping on my 67 xl convert. here are some #'s


Production Figures
Total Ford Production for 1967 2,212,415
Six Series Convertibles 19,068
Six Series FastBack Coupes 197,388
Six Series FastBack Sedans 57,087
Six Series Sedans 130,063
V8 Convertibles 19,068
V8 Fastback Coupes 197,388
V8 Fastback Sedans 57,087
V8 Sedans 130,063
XL Series Convertibles 5,161
XL Series FastBack Coupes 18,174
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what i get out of these is fords total production that year was the 2.2 mill as above. out of that over 800,000 were galaxie's and out of them there were 5161 xl converts. i have read that out of the 5100 xl verts there were few 428ci produced. most were 289's and 390's. my question is with that low of xl vert production and lower again for the 428 motor would this car be close to what is thought to be a rare one?
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if someone knows where to find #'s on these without getting a marti report it would be appreciated.