Thanks warren.
What you have may be halibrands but yours are aluminum. Thes are magnesium. Magnesium wheels are lighter and fetch more money. Usually.
-Josh
I have Magnesium slots on all 4 corners of the Supernash, well I thought I did until now.
They are super light compared to aluminum. My brother bought them new for his Couger back in the late '60's and they cost mucho moola back then. I kinda inherited/stole/kept them.
When I had the 9" Ford narrowed for the Javelin, I used these wheels to measure from. I have 2 sets for the rear. One for street, one for the soft side slicks. Carl has seen the car.
One of my Uncles guys at the time, was flipping a tire on one and he cracked the wheel.
According to the Welder dude that fixed it, "Brad, you didn't tell me it was Magnesium".
I guess welding Magnesium isn't something easily done and flares up like one of those sparkler things the kids run around with ? I was always bad in Science class.
My rear wheels are worth more than the custom made Strange Axels I had built from Bears ?
Speaking of Carl............where you at ?
Porsche has been using magnesium in the construction of their sports cars since the 1960s, as it is a lightweight and easy metal to work with. It provides weight savings benefits in heavier pieces like engine and transmission cases. Porsche currently uses Magnesium in the new Panamera's door structures, 911 Cabriolet top frames, and the GT3 RS has a magnesium roof to reduce the center of gravity. For certain components, especially large stressed pieces like the GT3 RS roof panel, it's even lighter than using Carbon Fiber. According to Frank Weismann, Porsche's Product Experience Manager, "the high cost of carbon fiber and the high amount of effort regarding the production and paint process in multiple steps, including several levels of polishing, result in carbon fiber pieces for the exterior being very expensive. The magnesium roof is cheaper than a comparable carbon fiber roof, and it is also an estimated 700 grams or 24 percent lighter.”
So what is the problem? Well, Magnesium isn't necessarily any easier to ignite than many other automotive materials, but it burns a whole hell of a light hotter and faster. Once ignited, magnesium will burn at a heat of more than 5000 degrees fahrenheit. Putting off that kind of heat will easily melt aluminum the aluminum or steel found elsewhere in the car. That kind of heat is enough to immediately break a water molecule into its Hydrogen and Oxygen components, both of which are highly combustable. Further, mg is harder to extinguish, as the standard fire extinguishers are ineffective. An mg fire requires sand or dry powder to be put out, which many fire trucks do not carry. All of this being said, vehicle fires are by-and-large rare these days, and as we said earlier Magnesium isn't very easy to ignite without an already serious vehicle fire. Personally, I'm happy to reap the benefits of a lighter car and a lower center of gravity. If something goes bad enough that your Porsche does ignite, perhaps the best idea is to keep a fire extinguisher on hand. Failing that, the second best option is to just get out of the car as quickly as possible and stand aside watching it burn. Insurance will sort it out.
For a deeper dive into the subject, and more of the science behind it, check out Kamil Kaluski's recent post on Hooniverse.com. I'm convinced he included this picture of a 1973 911 Targa just to make me cry.
-- Edited by Ground Pounder on Monday 5th of December 2016 08:15:21 AM
Maybe that works. I lightly sanded the back of the wheel to get some dust, then I dropped it in vinegar, magnesium will cause bubbling and fizzing. Which there was. Aluminum will do nothing. Where I Previously sanded has now gone back to the blackish color.
these would be a 70s Halibrand. it was common that guys would alter the look by shaving the raised lips to give their wheels a unique look. I bought these wheels locally. When I bought them I talked to a guy that owned thousands of magnesium wheels, he told me what they were. His name was Greg Shelton In California. There's also a thread I started on the H.A.M.B. In regards to these as I wanted to know more. It's still on there.
-- Edited by Windsor on Monday 5th of December 2016 12:46:35 PM
They are magnesium and the price your asking is reasonable. Not great for the street but I'm amazed that a drag racer hasn't snapped them up. I wish I had a use for them. Shelton is the 'guru' of mag wheels.
I took a load of aluminum to London yesterday. I had some old Lawn Boy mower decks that have been laying around for years so I hucked them on. (Core on Gore RD)
Turns out, they were Magnesium. Clean cast aluminum (Briggs, Tecumseh) blocks/heads etc paid 10 cents/pound. The magnesium paid the same, 10 cents/pound.
That was a bummer, cause I got all excited 'an **** ! LOL
Back to the topic, if I drop vineger on these wheels, and I get a black spot, do I have to drop some Baking Soda to stop the chemical process so I don't screw these wheels up or what ?
I pulled Baking Soda out my butt, cause that's what we use for Battery acid.
Back to the topic, if I drop vineger on these wheels, and I get a black spot, do I have to drop some Baking Soda to stop the chemical process so I don't screw these wheels up or what ?
Wow - Magnesium Halibrand small windows in a common bolt pattern. That is something you don't see much anymore. That is a pretty good price for those wheels also.