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PETERBOROUGH, ONT

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My home made panhard bar measured 14" center to center (including heim joints). My new coil overs are on and the car rides 2" higher. Great !

But now I can't get my axle to sit center.  The closest I can get is 1/2" more on the passenger side.  

My springs are 3" longer than the old ones.  I have had the car on and off the jack stands so many times I've lost count.  Just trying to adjust the panhard.

I Know I have to replace this panhard because the threads are the same on both ends.  I'll buy a new one but can I move the axle over a bit until I can buy a new one ? I know how a proper Panhard is supposed to work.



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PRINCE EDWARD COUNTY, ONT

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When you remove the panhard, does the body center on the axle? How do you propose to move the axle over a bit? Depending on how much you need to lengthen the panhard bar, you could use a tie rod extender. Something like this.  You will need to know the thread on the heim fitting.

www.speedwaymotors.com/QA1-AA8-8-Rod-End-Linkage-Adjuster-Aluminum-1-2-20-RH-1-2-20-LH,260768.html

Warren



-- Edited by wuga on Tuesday 13th of June 2023 05:00:08 PM

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I have had the panhard on and off so many times, I am losing track of how it sits with and without it. I think the body sits close to center without the bar. One quarter inch would bring it to center but it sits half an inch over toward the passenger side without the bar.
How do I propose to move the axle over a bit ? Well, that's the issue. Without the bar, I can move the axle easily by hand just wiggling it a bit but it won't wiggle far enough. I extended the bar to 15" easily but I couldn't get it to sit in place unless I shortened it. I don't think I need an extender but I'll check the site you sent. I think the problem is the shocks. If I disconnect one or both, I could (I think) probably get more cooperation with my Panhard but then I might find the problem will have transferred to my shock(s)? Hmm ?
I just checked the site you sent and I don't think I need a longer bar BUT if I buy one with a left hand thread, that would repair the damage I did when I rethreaded my heim joint and my bar. Like an idiot, I saw how bad the threads were and dove right into repairing them at both ends with the same tap and die. Idiot ! SO if I get the extender and cut my bar and weld on the extension, I would have a left hand thread like I'm supposed to. This might work ? Unless the problem is the longer shocks ? But I will have a left hand thread at least on one end. The way it should be.
Do you need anything if I place this order ? I can look on my tap and die set to see what thread I put on the heim joint.
On the up side, my car sits 2" higher which is why I started this repair and I am learning about Heim joints and Panhard bars and how they work with the frame and axle. I'm learning and getting to know my ride from end to end. Getting a lot of heat about the property going to hell but I can only do so much. With all my time on the truck and car, I think relations at home are strained BUT the guys at NAPA are still friendly. LOL

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If you think the problem is with the shocks or the mount you made, why don't you get rid of that mount, cut the rubber bushing in the shock and use the original mount. Get the suspension relaxed and centered. You don't need a left right, it just makes it easier. Raising the body 2-3 inches shouldn't make that much difference in the length of the panhard, you should be able to turn out the heim. Now, quit ****ing around, quit what you are doing and make your wife happy. The car will still be there tomorrow, she may not be. That may be the biggest learning yet.
Warren

PS:  Why are there three threads on the same build/project?  How can there be continuity in help if we can't see the original posts in order?



-- Edited by wuga on Tuesday 13th of June 2023 11:48:43 PM

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PETERBOROUGH, ONT

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One thread - ok. Relax and center - ok. Build a new deck and sand and stain 4 others and cut the lawn and go to the dump and ... - can't wait ! Quit ****ing around - That's what she said -
I will investigate the mounts more but I don't think they are the issue. BUT I'll check. They fit nicely and allow the new wider springs to fit without hitting the axle. BUT I'll check.

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wuga wrote:

If you think the problem is with the shocks or the mount you made, why don't you get rid of that mount, cut the rubber bushing in the shock and use the original mount. Get the suspension relaxed and centered. You don't need a left right, it just makes it easier. Raising the body 2-3 inches shouldn't make that much difference in the length of the panhard, you should be able to turn out the heim. Now, quit ****ing around, quit what you are doing and make your wife happy. The car will still be there tomorrow, she may not be. That may be the biggest learning yet.
Warren

PS:  Why are there three threads on the same build/project?  How can there be continuity in help if we can't see the original posts in order?



-- Edited by wuga on Tuesday 13th of June 2023 11:48:43 PM


 Touché, lol. It is all about prioritizing.  # 1 thing is keeping the better 1/2 happy then play with your poop. Your doing a heck of a job bud but it can't all be done today, or tomorrow. Some of these builds took a couple of months, or maybe a couple of years, i forget.  lol.



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I relaxed and centered the axle and that was the solution. I then put ramps under the rear tires and lowered the car. All that was left was to attach the Panhard bar at ride height with a little leverage to center it precisely.
I am really coming to understand why winter is for fixing and summer is for driving so having a heated garage is a big advantage. It would also free up time to get chores done in the summer. It took a while but I get it now. Just not sure I can do it. No insulation and cramped for space. Poor lighting. Maybe next winter or the next. I remember the first winter with the rod. We worked long hours every single day and then one day we opened the big door and it was summer. Never had a winter pass so fast. Thank you Shag766. I took her to dinner and we are going to a yarn store in Coburg someday soon. Plus it will give me a day to rest.

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