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COBOURG, ONT

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well folks my number is finally up, after 12 years of towing dirty the moe nailed me on wednesday.  just so you all know they are doing blitzes in the evening a nd weekends.  anyways if there is irony they were setup at the entrance of my street, they saw me drive by and they reeled me in. the moe dude was pretty good though, he was decent and not a prick.  then things got interesting.  this fellow seemed confused and hesitant and didnt know what he was looking at.  he barraged me with questions but i played rather dumb and i didnt give him anything.  in the end he didnt fine me and told me i had to either install an air pump and egr valve or cats.  he felt cats were better and he gave me my out, if install cats my truck will be compliant.  so i have till oct 22 to install cats and prove i did.  this encounter would seem to verify the claim that the moe has been told to ease up on the brutal enforcement, hence this person could have fined me and pulled my plates but instead went easy on me.  score one for the good guys



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So what year is your truck? Do you think the officer was confused on the rules? Or will you be compliant just with the cats? Who do you need to take your truck to for the cat installation inspection?

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DITTO!!!! Same questions?????

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COBOURG, ONT

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thats the best part of this, the inspector couldnt identify the year of my engine, my truck is a 1976.  once i attend court and prove i installed cats i will be compliant.



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COBBLE HILL, BC

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Did 1976 vehicles have CATS?
If not, do you really have to install them?

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PORT HOPE, ONT

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Most cars had cats in 73 ,trucks were later,but if I could get away with just having cats that would suit me fine. Ed

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MILTON, ONT

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Clipped from Wikipedia...

Emissions regulations vary considerably from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. Most automobile spark-ignition engines in North America have been fitted with catalytic converters since 1975,[2][3][4][5] and the technology used in non-automotive applications is generally based on automotive technology. While the regulatory requirement was for the 1975 model year, General Motors is documented as having fitted catalytic converters to the 1974 Camaro Type LT[16] fitted with the 5.7L L65 and LM1 engines

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PORT HOPE, ONT

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I stand corrected .memory is one of the first things to go when we get ----now what was I saying. Ed

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I think that trucks (pick-ups) only started using cats in 1979. In 1978 the fastest production vehicle that year was the Dodge Little Red Express with a 360 engine. It was even faster that the Corvette because it wasn't bogged down with emission controls.

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COBOURG, ONT

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my truck even in 76 didnt have cats, gm was the first domestic manufacturer to install cats.  the moe fellow had the info on my truck, i asked him how he knew what my truck came with, he replied he had a database, i said can the public access this database, he said no.  i then said that finding this info is almost impossible, he said go to the manufacturer.  i know for a fact that chrysler doesnt have info much past 1980, he agreed its harder to find info on the older stuff.  i think this is one of the reasons he let me go



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BROCKVILLE, ONT

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I had a 76 F100 when new, no cats from day one, I believe Ford trucks had cats starting in 1978.

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WATFORD, ONT

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1977 GMC 1/2 ton short box stepside, 350 engine and truck 4 speed (Bull low and 3 speed) bought it new and it had a single cat. Can't remember if it had an EGR though. Had the vac operated heat riser (that seized up like all of the others did.)

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COBOURG, ONT

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1978 Blazer , no cat, no egr from factory. Being a 4X4 the gvw is over 6000lbs, so it is emission exempt.

The build code ( rpo) says pcv system only. (NA2 is the code)

If it had been 2wd, then the gvw would be under 6000lbs and it would need cats egr and all that stuff



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Yep...A friend of mine bought a new 4x4 Blazer in 78......no cats. My 75, which I bought used didnt have them either

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BRANT COUNTY, ONT

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My Dad's brand new(in 78) suburban 2wd didn't have cats.

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What kind of vehicle and what colour of vehicle does the MOE use when hunting easy prey like old car enthusiasts? Ooops, sorry I typed what I was thinking .... That should read "what kind of vehicle and what colour of vehicle does the MOE use when patrolling public streets while trying to save the environment from the general public for the general public?"

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So my 68 Chevelle with a 74 Chev van ( a "truck") 350 4-bolt main would NOT have had cats? Again, where does one go for proof?

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Rusty Nuts wrote:

What kind of vehicle and what colour of vehicle does the MOE use when hunting easy prey like old car enthusiasts? Ooops, sorry I typed what I was thinking .... That should read "what kind of vehicle and what colour of vehicle does the MOE use when patrolling public streets while trying to save the environment from the general public for the general public?"


 believe it Green & white just like the DOT just has diff. name on it???



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Rusty Nuts wrote:

What kind of vehicle and what colour of vehicle does the MOE use when hunting easy prey like old car enthusiasts? Ooops, sorry I typed what I was thinking .... That should read "what kind of vehicle and what colour of vehicle does the MOE use when patrolling public streets while trying to save the environment from the general public for the general public?"


 They drive Crown Victorias and GM SUVs. They look almost identical to the MTO guys except the logo on the door is different and the stripe is blue instead of green.



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BOWMANVILLE, ONT

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They use Crown Vic's, Tahoes and Subs, Impalas and yes- motorcycles too. They have 'ghost cars' with colour keyed decals but most are marked with side full length colour decals, they have Environmental Enforcement across the back. From the front you can't tell what the vehicle is, which doesn't do us any good because that'll be the end we will likely see first, ugh.

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PORT HOPE, ONT

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Had some guys in the parking lot beside the shop today in what looked like a Jimmie or a Blazer didn't get a good look but it was a 4x4 with a what almost looked like the RCMP logo on the doors .Could have been natural resorseas or the MOE as they were parked where the MOE suburban usually sits when they are fishing for revinue.The local cops were doing a seatbelt/cellphone check accross the road for awhile as well so I really got to see my tax dollars in action today.Felt very safe and secure all day. Ed

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CLARINGTON, ONTARIO

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I had an '84 Ford F150 that had no cat from the factory...my fathers old '80 F150 didn't have one either.

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this is what is inside the glovebox on my 78 jeep. mine states 78 not as 76 in the pic



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