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HAMILTON, ONT

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Any one here still into metalflake, toying with idea of flaking my bucket..  Any one ever metalflake a car???????



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never used it but my roof is going to get flaked.I have a friend into low riders doing it for me.


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IMG_0165.JPGmy 50 f-1 is done and it is beautiful, if i say so myself and everybody who see's it. house of colours candy apple red. only thing i would add is use a guy who has done it before.



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Sweet rite. thats awesome

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I did a gas tank on my Triumph when flake first came out. I think you need a larger opening in the spray gun nozzle and put some large marbles or ball bearings in the gun. Constantly swirl the gun and the marbles help stop the flake from settling to the bottom. This is from 1966. Your milage may vary.

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And after you apply the fake you have to build up the clear and then wet sand and hope you don't go thru. That's what I was told by an old painter. Maybe the new paints are easier to use I hope so-I want to do my Harley in a blue flake .



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Back in the 80s i painted about 20-30 cars mteal flake
Depending in the look you wanted is how you applied it
Mostly used course micoflake. Bought by the bag.
Measured by the teaspoon in the clear. Layered it for depth then
Layed 6 or more clear coats. Then wet sanded and buffed. Them layed
Another 4 or more coats fo clear
Depending on the graphics could take a couple of weeks to do
Big bucks. Even back then

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Grumpsbodyworks wrote:

Back in the 80s i painted about 20-30 cars mteal flake
Depending in the look you wanted is how you applied it
Mostly used course micoflake. Bought by the bag.
Measured by the teaspoon in the clear. Layered it for depth then
Layed 6 or more clear coats. Then wet sanded and buffed. Them layed
Another 4 or more coats fo clear
Depending on the graphics could take a couple of weeks to do
Big bucks. Even back then


   you are right on with all the clear coats. mine didn't get enough and let's say it is fragile. 



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Done a bit of flake over the years and its just a lot of work.. I also have a friend in Woodstock who is the official Roth Flake distributor if anyone is needing any..


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Furry?

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Furry like a cheese grater Grump!

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Thought so. Needs about 6-10 more coats of clear

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After you spray the flake, I think you are supposed to sand it smooth before the clear coat.


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The key is MANY COATS OF CLEAR BEFORE SANDING

That way you are sanding clear coat and not knockkng down the flake

Re clear many coats. Resand final coat sand and buff

That way it gives depth and the flake stands up. Not lay flat

Difference between oh my god thats incredible and ho hum

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House Of Colour have 3 different sizes of flake. Maybe the smaller flake would be less work than the course. Has anyone ever used them?

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Grumpsbodyworks wrote:

Furry?



    no. just thin. fury, i haven't heard that term since the old days of metal flake thanks for the memory. no, its just thin, meaning a bug at 60mph could leave a dent. not fury.



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Lol on the furry. I guess im old school then

O have used all micro flake. Small medium and large

Small was barely more than regular metal flake

Medium was bigger and i used it for panels or hilights

Big was chunks. Used to scoop it into the clear by the spoonfull

Used to throw a couple of nuts in the pot to keep it agitated

Sprayed like snot the first few coats were "furry". Took a lot of coats of clear

To bury it. Sand and clear a couple more. Sand

And clear a couple more. You had to be realy carefull sanding to deep

And it would leave bare spots and ruin the continuity of the flake

Sand and polish. If done right it would look like a bass boat

Cool look at the time. But clears were different. Urathane were like

Honey. Not like today. Clears are like water realy thin

Sorry to ramble. Brings back memories

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Grumpsbodyworks wrote:

Lol on the furry. I guess im old school then

O have used all micro flake. Small medium and large

Small was barely more than regular metal flake

Medium was bigger and i used it for panels or hilights

Big was chunks. Used to scoop it into the clear by the spoonfull

Used to throw a couple of nuts in the pot to keep it agitated

Sprayed like snot the first few coats were "furry". Took a lot of coats of clear

To bury it. Sand and clear a couple more. Sand

And clear a couple more. You had to be realy carefull sanding to deep

And it would leave bare spots and ruin the continuity of the flake

Sand and polish. If done right it would look like a bass boat

Cool look at the time. But clears were different. Urathane were like

Honey. Not like today. Clears are like water realy thin

Sorry to ramble. Brings back memories


 Don't worry about rambling.... This is educational to some of use. Is nice to learn about the good and bad of flake. I't is something I am interested in. Just like to know what all is involved. Have you ever done anything with Duponts Chrystal clear before. I know it is not cheap. Last I heard, it was something like $1,500 a litre.



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My buddy uses it for clearing bike paint jobs

Because its so freekin expensive

I have not used it because of that

He says its hard to spray because its soooo thin

Right gun. Right pressure. Good hand Great results

Miss one of those and it could look like niagara falls lol

He also uses a lot of house of colours stuff

Also pricy. He says FOLLOW THE DIECTIONS TO THE LETTER

and it sprays nice. Me? I use cheap SUMMIT PAINT. Cheap. Easy

Goof proof. And as long as you clear it after you can still polish out

Boo boos. Whole car with epoxy primer paint reducer activator about $350

Still a good paint job. But paint only looks as good as the bodywork below it

You cant make an alligator hide look like glass with paint lol

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I haven't sprayed inyears,materials of yesteryear were nasty compared to today's. Grumps if you ever spray flake I'd love to watch you, . Remember pickin up mags when was a kid, alot of flake backthen. Rods and Vans. I was amazed..

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Shag. As bad boy says

NOOOOOOO PROBLEM!

When I saw the pic of your truck I thought it looked likE

A HOC paint. I have added metalic to non-metalic paints

for years. Now that Im into rat rods I paint satins and cheap

paint. Cant see spending Thousands an Thousands on daily drivers

I painted Devilish rat rod with rustoleum hammer tone paint $39.95 gallon

Now i understand when you say your paint is THIN



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hemikev wrote:

Any one here still into metalflake, toying with idea of flaking my bucket..  Any one ever metalflake a car???????


   ooops, sorry guys. i might of put my mouth in gear and left my mind in neutral, imagine that.  the paint on my truck has a flake in it but the flake wasn't added to the paint prior to application. it was in the paint. it was also house of Kolor not house of Color and expensive.  this thread is more about adding the flake. i remember that from years ago and now i relate to the term furry. lol

  carry on gentlemen.



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I used to love to paint, and have done my fair share of bikes /cars/boats, but I haven't done anything since everything went to waterborne. Damn environmentalists ruin everything for the sake of BS !!!

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I agree hemi.....nothing better than an Iscosyanate high......

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I've never sprayed flake but I've been hearing about flake guns that you spray dry flake on to a wet coat of clear
It's supposed to allow the flake to lay a little flatter so you don't need as much clear
Also supposedly allows a more even flake coat

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I have not heard about flake guns wolf....

In my experience.... flat flak equals dull finish...its when flake stands up you get the glitter

I am not the be all end all when it comes to flake...I can only relate to the 20 or so times I sprayed it.

I learned from trial and error......my wifes car had about 40-45 coats of flake and clear on it lol ( blue, red, gold silver flake... flames and graphics)

Every time I wanted ti try something new I'd roll it in and spray it....after a while when I got better at it

then I would spray my projects....

Funny thing though...the paint was sooooo thick on the car when it got a stone chip...i couldnt sand it out

I had to fill it with filler......lol

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This all sounds very scarry-I think I will stick to my Tremclad flat black-stress free!

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