Only Licensed Mechanics?

atomsplitter · NEWCASTLE, ONT

RE: Only Licensed Mechanics?

Ragtop · BELLE RIVER, ONT

I'm sure this is a bunch of BS but it's something I wouldn't put past this provincial government.

34guy · MISSISSAUGA, ONT

I don't need the likes of a grumpy old self opinionated, old brainless man hiding behind his keyboard and say thing's he wouldn't dare in public or to peoples faces !!!

You have no right to call me mouthy or tell me to shout my mouth Who do you think you are ,My Dad.

Stand up at Waterdown and express your opinion's ,Stand up at the Toronto Gay parade and express your opinions

Yeah just like I thought spineless without a keyboard

No wonder they kicked you off the other site

In my opinion you should be kicked off this one too!!

Nothing good to say about anything or any one

Joe Mac

Dave Scott · ANCASTER, ONT

34guy · MISSISSAUGA, ONT

Hilarious Dave

I cant stop laughing, Oh by the way you better drop your car off at Fatchuck's as it seems none of us on the site have the ability or license's or should be giving advice on how to build your rod. Only he and his 30 tech's have the ability PS BRING CASH

2inchestoolow · CLARINGTON, ONTARIO

I saw nothing between the lines either....and my frown was not upside down.

Next we'll have to have a certified person do up our seat belts...you know, being safety equipment and all.

Fred Winterburn · RIPLEY, ONT

Boy! I didn't mean to stir up a hornet's nest when I asked the question. Fatchucks comment on people installing brake pads backwards made me a little sheepish. I did that on one side of the rear brakes on my old rusty range rover after working a night shift. As soon as I hit the road to test my handywork, I realized I had made a mistake with the metal on metal sound. I decided to go have a sleep and re-do and recheck everything once I was rested. No, it's not rocket science but you do need to be careful. Back to the original subject. Right now the Ontario government is negotiating a reduction in insurance costs for automobiles and like someone else said, that could be the real issue here. We could end up with something we would rather not have. I do not trust insurance companies or brokers for that matter. My rates were just increased during a time of low inflation and very high returns on investments. Without any claims or infractions, this should be the environment in which my rates are lowered. Fred

Dave Scott · ANCASTER, ONT

Before I left Scotland, there was talk of introducing a ban on all post manufacturer modifications to cars across Europe. Spain already has this rule. eg; all cars would require standard wheels, standard exhausts, no power upgrades etc etc.

We have yearly mot tests in the UK, so there would be no way round it.

Complete nonsense! It would put thousands of folk out of work.

With regards to licenced mechanic versus diy enthusiasts, that's a can of worms, which has been well and truly opened.

If I can possibly avoid it, I will never put my car into a garage. I have so many horror stories about so called professionals, both in workmanship and in price.

The only thing I get done by someone else is tyre changes, and that's only because I don't have the machinery.

If they passed a law stating only licenced mechanics could work on my car, I'd sell it and walk.

2inchestoolow · CLARINGTON, ONTARIO

You will find we don't have tyres in Ontario....you're safe! LOL

janies dirty 37 · SOUTH RIVER, ONT

Agreed! its a way of life.I would be spendin a lot of time in jail..... or dead.....which is the only way i would stop fixing, working on or building my own stuff!!! When they pry my wrenchs from my cold dead hands!!

Janice

Someone · BOWMANVILLE, ONT

The second last vehicle i bought had front brake pads installed by a licensed mechanic at a high end dealership, i just replaced these very brake pads 2 weeks ago becuase they were cheap offshore garbage pads that also gave off alot of brake dust. When i took them apart i found it quite amusing to find they were installed wrong, hell the pads were even marked with an 'L' and 'R', they were on the wrong sides of the vehicle!

I have alot of respect for mechanics, i'm related to one that has been in the trade for over 45 years now. The ones i don't have any respect or use for are the ones that rip people off knowingly. Upselling customers for parts they don't need, like a certain big Canadian store that likes to sell you every brake part that is associated to your basic brake job simply because: "oh they might wear out soon". Or how a certain muffler chain likes to upsell customers wanting their exhaust system replaced, oh your shocks look like they might fail soon. WTF?

34guy · MISSISSAUGA, ONT

The parts guy at the ford dealer is smarter than my mechanic

Wife took the ford focus in as it was running rough . Put the scanner on it and showed bad oxygen sensor. Well there are 3. Keep changing them till we find the bad one?

wife is smart enough to bring the car home. Talk to the parts guy at ford he tells me 'we have sold 35 of this one 27 of this 1005 of this one. He was right.

Same car running rough again ,same mechanic , scans it reports bad egr valve hundred's of dollars .wife brings it home. go to the ford dealer parts guy tell's me

There is a faulty wiring harness to them sometimes and kit to repair is under 3 bucks. As a courtesy he get ford tech to hook his scanner on it for 20.00 and it diagnosed the wire right to the colour Tech even changed the wire end 23.00

Well you know the story abs light wont go out .There are four dealer tells me which one he has sold the most of and you guessed it no more light

Now my vehicles only go to the dealership and not all the backyard hacks like midas, Canadian tire, green and ross, with there one machine scans all anybody can buy equipment.

Cat in the Hat · BRANTFORD, ONT

Joe. I hope you werent talkin about me when
You said " grumpy old bastard" ;)
In my opinion. There are very few mechanics left
What we have today are part changers
This whole flat rate bs screws quality workmanship
And encourages abuse by so called mechanics
Think about it the system encourages mechanics to do it as fast
As possible to make the most amount of cash
Poor system to brag about quality work by a certified mechanic
Blah blah blah
The manufacturers dont want you to fix your car. No money in
Selling cars. Only money repairing. If it wasnt for repairs there
would be no dealerships. You could buy off line. The money is in repair

It only makes sense chuck blows a gasket when people complain
About his bread and butter. Its in his best interest to do
ALL THE REPAIRS ON EVERY CAR $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

I will always build my own. Im not a mechanic. But raised 2 boys who are
One is a parts chaser. Throw parts at it until it works
The other repairs as mich as he can and has a loyal following

It will NEVER HAPPEN IN NORTH AMERICA. At least not in our lifetime
Aftermarket industry is a trillion dollar business and will NEVER LET IT HAPPEN

WOW. WHAT A BAD CASE OF VERBAL DIAREAHA
i have to go and rinse my mouth and give my finger abreak
I phone typing kills

34guy · MISSISSAUGA, ONT

Hey Glenn

I would save calling you a grumpy old bastard for when I see you. I am real tired of this whole thread now and am done responding to his nonsense.

Real easy to sit here and type thing's you wouldn't normally say to a friend or aqaintence and I am truly embarrassed to have lowered myself to those standards.

See you at waterdown Joe Mac

Gwillyville Kid · BRADFORD, ONT

Lotsa rhetoric here.
Anyone here that made a condescending remark about any licensed mechanic are you familiar with the Ontario Motor Vehicle Repair Act? If not, read upon it. Especially the part about quoting a price for repair and then not successfully repairing your vehicle. Or the part regarding failure of repair.
At your job, does everyone successfully work at the same proficiency? No one is better at performing their job than anyone else? No one has a better understanding of the work environment than anyone else?
Does one guy have better welds? better paint finishes? operates equipment smoother? fewer cash shortages? gets a longer life out the clutch? more successful crop yields? Then why would you expect EVERY mechanic would have the same experience as Every other mechanic?
Any chance someone with more experience would have a better understanding than someone that had never seen one before?
At my garage I had someone come in with a Renault R5. There were only 5 of those in Canada. Guess I had not had much experience with those previously. In 1980 I had another customer come in with a 1967 Datsun 2000 Fairlady Roadster with right hand drive. Same experience. One of a hand full in Canada. Also had someone come in with one of those really ugly AMC 1974 Matador 2 door coupes with the AMC 6 cylinder and auto trans. Trans had failed. The ONLY part I could get for it was a torque convertor. Used car salesman told the guy there "Loads of them on the road" (1981) and getting parts was no problem. I was the bad guy "screwed the customer" because I could not fix the trans. I could not get parts, but I could have ordered up a new transmission for much more money than the car was worth. but I was the bad guy. I should have simply towed his car back out to the highway where it failed and left it & him there.
I am finding many people lately with very limited car skills and knowledge planning to buy welders to tackle their hot rod projects. I have suggested they lay up the frame and pay a guy with a portable welding rig to back it up to garage do the welding. You know , a professional welder. General response "what will that cost?" "Less than the welder & tanks and will be done properly.
Insert your guess at common response here.
I still rebuild carburetors. I am amazed how many people will drop $$$$ to send carbs out or yank old one off and order a new $$$ carb but don't understand fuel filters.
To all you guys that are handy and Know more than a licensed mechanic I hope your sister brings her Renault Le Car to you for work to save her $$$. Or your best friend decides he needs you to change the torque converter in his 304 Hornet or Gremlin. After 3 days of trying to line it up I want to hear you then.
Flat rate. The quotes you get for repairs are based on flat rates. I would rather have a mechanic that can beat flat rate at a high shop rate than a guy that takes double the time for 2/3 the rate. Do the math.

Did you ever think that some shops charge higher rates to discourage folks with junk cars from shopping there? And Yes you are right you don't know if that mechanic can fix your car properly, but the shop doesn't know if your car can be repaired in the time they alot for the employee and equipment to be tied up with your car, or whether the customer can or will pay.
Yes that poster is quite funny the one; shop rate $xx, if you help $xxxx, If you attempted to repair it yourself $xxxxxxxx. The service writer and mechanic have know idea if you have clue about what your doing or if the described problem contains a surprise (stripped threads, rust)
I heard a story of a mechanic that when went to a social engagement and when asked what he did for a living he told them he operated a Fork Lift. No one asks a Fork Lift Operator for free advise. Makes more sense to me now than when I first heard that.
No, I do not want non qualified people working on parts that are safety sensitive. Have you seen that You tube video of the car coming the wrong way down a ramp and head on into the car in front of the camera car. Maybe look for it and relate that to that amateur repair at 100 kmh. It is NOT very likely that a wheel coming off a car on the road was caused by a Licensed Mechanic.

One last point. DO NOT under estimate the politicians in Canada. They do NOT care how many jobs they lose but do love new taxes. If you have enough money for leisure activities you are NOT paying enough taxes! They gotta buy more votes.

Pick your fights but choose carefully.

the Kid

shag766 · FOXBORO, ONT

dualquadpete wrote:
Fatchuk , if your serious here you need help & if I remember correctly, you are the one that said to me theres nothing wrong with "smokin up' when i brought that issue up about "mental health issues, well obviously, you took your own advice & are "high" all the time!! No wonder your "bitchin' that your shop needs a captive customer to keep you in your 'wacky Tobacky" habit!!! I'm outta here for awhile or maybe for ever!!! Never saw such a one sided "mental midget"!! no wonder members are bailing outta this site!!!!

my thought's only. the above post should not of been put out here.

"sorry" pete but just saying

RacerRick · TORONTO, ONT

With the attitudes that the "professionals" are giving, I will continue to repair my cars myself. Nothing pisses people off more than telling them they are not good enough to do something they have been doing successfully for years.

You guys are doing yourselves a disservice with this "everyone else knows nothing and shouldn't touch cars but me" BS that i am getting from these answers.

Fred Winterburn · RIPLEY, ONT

Racer Rick, My sentiments exactly. Makes me wonder if the 'pros' know something I don't with respect to the new Fiberal budget with that attitude. There will always be work for licensed mechanics so they needn't worry, but I do worry that this very flawed, corrupt government has something up their sleeves with the new budget. The Kid was right about one thing in particular. This government does not care one iota about common sense or democracy. It's all about collecting taxes in new imaginative ways. Anyone who has followed the antics of Dalton McGuinty over the years knows that anything is possible. Witness the green energy act if you really want to see what they are capable of doing with respect to 'social engineering' and fiscal irresponsibility. It's a sink hole we will never recover from. Now apply that kind of illogic to car repairs and I'll be moving to another province. Fred

Racer Rick wrote "With the attitudes that the "professionals" are giving, I will continue to repair my cars myself. Nothing pisses people off more than telling them they are not good enough to do something they have been doing successfully for years.
You guys are doing yourselves a disservice with this "everyone else knows nothing and shouldn't touch cars but me" BS that i am getting from these answers."

v8deuce · OAKVILLE, ONT

I was at home depot asking the bathroom guy about redoing my shower (fyi I've done this many times at many different houses) and I saw a contractor waiting to ask a question,drywall,paint,etc on his coveralls,and of course I'm dressed clean just came from doctor and look like I know nothing,so after he showed me some of the latest styles I spoke a little louder and asked him were the 3/4 gravel,a bag of concrete and a tube of silicone so I could do the floor in my shower! The contractor guy said I should hire a professional! To that I said no because I don't want to have to do it twice!!!! Dave pass the popcorn I think Grumpy is picking at his keyboard biggrin

Randy

Dave Scott · ANCASTER, ONT

v8deuce wrote:
I was at home depot asking the bathroom guy about redoing my shower (fyi I've done this many times at many different houses) and I saw a contractor waiting to ask a question,drywall,paint,etc on his coveralls,and of course I'm dressed clean just came from doctor and look like I know nothing,so after he showed me some of the latest styles I spoke a little louder and asked him were the 3/4 gravel,a bag of concrete and a tube of silicone so I could do the floor in my shower! The contractor guy said I should hire a professional! To that I said no because I don't want to have to do it twice!!!! Dave pass the popcorn I think Grumpy is picking at his keyboard

Randy

rolling on the floor laughing at that one biggrin biggrin biggrin

Cat in the Hat · BRANTFORD, ONT

Another coffee spitter .........Randy

2-0 for the bad guys....on second thought...deduct 2 for posting in the wrong area ( contractor vs mechanic )

Try to keep up with the conversation

69SS454 · MILTON, ONT

I love midgets...and popcorn.

Glen440 · AJAX, ONT

This is an interesting thread. I don't think there are that many people who are fixing their own cars when you consider how many cars are out there.

I don't know what the big deal is over this stuff. I can tell you, you don't need to be a certified welder to weld up cars. If there were as many hackers that can't do anything right as people make it sound there would be cars crashing all over the place. I would never come to a forum for old cars and tell everyone they shouldn't work on their own car.

Fred Winterburn · RIPLEY, ONT

Glen, That's precisely what I was saying about safety being self regulating. Even an idiot gets scared sh'''tless when his brakes aren't working right. Idiots aren't afraid to text and drive and don't think stopping at intersections is important, but that's another matter. To me, by far the biggest safety issue with the car (not the driver) is rust and rusted brake lines in particular. I think it's shameful that car companies don't spend the extra few dollars it would take to put Cunifer brake lines in cars as standard equipment, like Volvo has done since 1976. I'm an oiling fanatic. I do everything in my power to keep things rust free. Used oil is not an environmental hazard, it's an economical safety fluid! Fred

This is an interesting thread. I don't think there are that many people who are fixing their own cars when you consider how many cars are out there.

Glen wrote: "I don't know what the big deal is over this stuff. I can tell you, you don't need to be a certified welder to weld up cars. If there were as many hackers that can't do anything right as people make it sound there would be cars crashing all over the place. I would never come to a forum for old cars and tell everyone they shouldn't work on their own car."

fatstax · COBOURG, ONT

people who fix their own cars are easy to spot, they drive stuff pre 2005

BARRIE, ONTARIO

funny thing I,ve worked in gayrog,s since 86 maybe , licenced since 1990 . I,ve never called it a trade . its just a job to me . I coulda as easily been a truck driver . Most guys that say " in the trade " I usually stay away from or avoid , cause as soon as I hear that phrase . its like oh boy here we go . I,ve got 35 ,000 bucks worth of tools , I,ve been doing this so long .. I,ve got 15 certificates etc etc etc .
my own brother is a licence tech an every time he would get into a tirade about " the trade " . I,d just tell him to quit an go do something else , which he axeually has , but now he goes on rampages about being a dump truck driver an only he an a few other dump truck drivers axeually know how to drive , and every body else on the road is an idiot
another car forum I post on that deals with a certain brand has a poster with a similar style to some of the above posts , and does the same routine , rants , , posts get very confrontational , to the point of leaving or being banned or gets a warning . then comes on an says oh hey I guess I forgot to post a smiley face after those ones so you know I was just kidding around .
you see it on a lot of forums
An from what we,ve learned over the years from Sesame Street , is that sometimes you just gotta take a deep breath an say hmmmm, I,m gonna rewrite that post , or put a smiley face at the end ..77.

janies dirty 37 · SOUTH RIVER, ONT

Ahhhh where is your smiley face??? :)

Cat in the Hat · BRANTFORD, ONT

oldkoot · BROCKVILLE, ONT

Perhaps some members should keep this saying in mind before posting a rant like this one
" Better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than open your mouth and prove it".Like some have said before their best posts where the ones they deleted before posting.

slim · DUNDAS, ONT

Holy Crap Fred another cunifer fan . Its not only great to work with its fun to say

biggrin biggrin biggrin

workin class · FINCH, ONT

I am a licensed TSSA R.V. propane tech. According to Tssa ALL R.V. units must pass a propane leak test when sold and no sales of propane parts are to be made to the general public. All units sold by a dealer need to be tagged as pass or have the system capped and made non operable. This is supposed to be the same for the general public. Good luck with enforcing these stupid laws. People will do what they will do until we are all in jail or bubble wrapped for our own protection.

BARRIE, ONTARIO

janies dirty 37 wrote:
Ahhhh where is your smiley face??? :)

I,m not shure how to put a smiey face on here . I,ll practice later .

But I can do a quote

It,s the people that you meet when your walking down your street , in your neighbourhood , in your neigh - bour - hood .

As we learn again from Sesame Street , they had Count Chokula , he was very business like , always counting things , but very scary in a way . Oscar the Grouch , always kicking around in the garbage or scrap , but at the odd time very kind an helpful to others . Mr Hooper , the Jew , small business man . Ernie an Bert , kinda like the pre version of Chris an Steven of today,s TV world . And even a mild mannererd 9 ft tall talking yellow bird , who in recent times , went on national late night TV talk show , literally , an verbally kicked the Prezident of America,s azz . And also got same person to apologize on TV re his remarks about The Street .

So what we learned here is , your street , neighbourhood , town or even an internet forum takes all kindsa people to make it up .

If we all drove red 32 fords coupes , we,d be bored to death ..77.

58Chev · ETOBICOKE, ONT

workin class wrote:
I am a licensed TSSA R.V. propane tech. According to Tssa ALL R.V. units must pass a propane leak test when sold and no sales of propane parts are to be made to the general public. All units sold by a dealer need to be tagged as pass or have the system capped and made non operable. This is supposed to be the same for the general public. Good luck with enforcing these stupid laws. People will do what they will do until we are all in jail or bubble wrapped for our own protection.

OH OH, Does this mean my Coleman propane tree is illegal? And the 10' prop hose & splitter I purchased at WallyMart is too? biggrin biggrin

I even use an adaptor to refill my 1lb tanks from my 20lb. As you say, "Good luck with enforcing these stupid laws."

fatstax · COBOURG, ONT

77 wrote:
janies dirty 37 wrote:
Ahhhh where is your smiley face??? :)
I,m not shure how to put a smiey face on here . I,ll practice later .
But I can do a quote
It,s the people that you meet when your walking down your street , in your neighbourhood , in your neigh - bour - hood .
As we learn again from Sesame Street , they had Count Chokula , he was very business like , always counting things , but very scary in a way . Oscar the Grouch , always kicking around in the garbage or scrap , but at the odd time very kind an helpful to others . Mr Hooper , the Jew , small business man . Ernie an Bert , kinda like the pre version of Chris an Steven of today,s TV world . And even a mild mannererd 9 ft tall talking yellow bird , who in recent times , went on national late night TV talk show , literally , an verbally kicked the Prezident of America,s azz . And also got same person to apologize on TV re his remarks about The Street .
So what we learned here is , your street , neighbourhood , town or even an internet forum takes all kindsa people to make it up .
If we all drove red 32 fords coupes , we,d be bored to death ..77.

count chokula? thats a cereal character, i think he was just called the count.

2inchestoolow · CLARINGTON, ONTARIO

Fatstax you are a wealth of Seasame Street knowledge!

-- Edited by 2inchestoolow on Wednesday 15th of May 2013 09:39:37 PM

flatblack55delivery · PORT HOPE, ONT

Ya he is a little closer to his childhood than he will admit.Hasen't had any senior moments yet,come to think of it he hasen't even had any grownup moments yet.Uncle Bobby on chanel 9,Rocketship 7 on chanel 7,what was that thing with the danish on its head,Captin Kangaroo,Jonny Quest,Thunderbirds. Ed

-- Edited by flatblack55delivery on Wednesday 15th of May 2013 09:51:45 PM

BARRIE, ONTARIO

Yea , true but makes for better reading ..77.

2inchestoolow · CLARINGTON, ONTARIO

How does the Snuffleufagus fit into this?

Dave Scott · ANCASTER, ONT

It's MR Snuffleufagus if you don't mind.

fatstax · COBOURG, ONT

omg its mr snuffle upa gus. werent you guys kids once?

34guy · MISSISSAUGA, ONT

Yeah I was a kid once

Rocket ship 7 ,, friendly giant,, house of frankenstien

What is this seseme street you speak of !!!!

hemi43 · ONTARIO

Ya gotta love chat forums when one minute everyone is beating the crap out of each other, then the next they're talking about friggin Sesame Street !!

Cat in the Hat · BRANTFORD, ONT

Dont forget felix the cat. The frendly giant. And channel57 blue movies
On friday nights at midnight

OMG. I dislocated an arm holding the antenas to see fuzzy boobies!

Cat in the Hat · BRANTFORD, ONT

That is how I became ambidexterous

-- Edited by Grumpsbodyworks on Thursday 16th of May 2013 10:44:29 AM

58Chev · ETOBICOKE, ONT

Grumpsbodyworks wrote:
Dont forget felix the cat. The frendly giant. And channel57 blue movies
On friday nights at midnight

OMG. I dislocated an arm holding the antenas to see fuzzy boobies!

My older brother let me watch these with him. smile biggrin Don't tell mom, he useta say.

You're forgettin the most important, Davi and Goliath.

BARRIE, ONTARIO

Mr Snuf was the enforcer on the street .
And this is like another thing I always say , topics that come up on forums are forgotten as soon as the next interesting topic comes up . every thing passes with time ..77.

Fordy Acres Car Farm · DORCHESTER, ONT

oldkoot wrote:
Perhaps some members should keep this saying in mind before posting a rant like this one
" Better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than open your mouth and prove it".Like some have said before their best posts where the ones they deleted before posting.

Notice I haven't commented until now - thought about it, but took the advice above. All I have to say on the original subject is: I don't really have anything to say - until it actually happens. Then...WATCH OUT!!! I WILL work on my own vehicles while looking over my shoulder or will move to a non-communist province....or country if need be. Hell even Australia, which has very high standards allows a person to work on their own cars, they just have the modifications approved by way of an inspection. I don't think an inspection is required for replacing wearable parts-just modifications. blankstare

I did watch 'Sesame Street', but 'The Friendly Giant' was king! 'Speed Racer' smoked 'Bugs Bunny' in my ratings scale too! smile

hemi43 · ONTARIO

Grumpsbodyworks wrote:
Dont forget felix the cat. The frendly giant. And channel57 blue movies
On friday nights at midnight

OMG. I dislocated an arm holding the antenas to see fuzzy boobies!

The dislocated arm was NOT from holding the antenna !!

janies dirty 37 · SOUTH RIVER, ONT

69SS454 · MILTON, ONT

Tiny Talent Time and I still have repressed memories of The Uncle Bobby pedofile Show and Bimbo the Clown.