I am selling a nice 77 Ventura hatchback.I have it beside my shop with a forsale sign in the window.At night i put it behind the shop and bring it out when i am open.It sit there most nice days with the drivers window open and like I say with for sale signs in the windows.Now the question ,today I caught a guy opening the hood,he was reefing on the latch and when I yelled out to ask what he was doing he said i wanna look at the engine.I said why didn't you ask me he said its for sale I can do what I want.He was pissed that I said he should ask befor getting into someones car .The thing is this guy showed up in a high dollar 70s firebird.I ould think there would be a little more respect.Is this the way things are now do people think just because its forsale they can just do what they want without asking first.I would never even think of going into someones car or opening there hood without permission.I don't even like to go on someones property to look at a car unless it is right by the road .Opening someones hood is not right ,what if the hood is broken and it breaks a windshield or they bend the latch because its a little out of ajustment and you have to hold it just so to close it properly.How am I suposed to know weather or not this guy is trying to steel an origional 2bbl air cleaner,ok thats a strech, but you know what I mean.People have broken handles off of my vintage stoves and friges because they "thought"they knew how to opn them ,who pays for that .This has happend to me twice now,the last guy wanted to punch my lights out when I suggested he should have asked before he got into a truck I was selling .Again I will ask do you think people have the right to enter or open your car without permission when it is forsale. Ed
I would ask first if someone was nearby. But if not, I would probably open a door and look in. If I new the car, I might open the hood latch. If it was locked though, I would only look at the outside and underneath. If I liked what I saw, I would phone the number on the sign.
I think you should keep it locked and just crack the windows, if you don't want people messing with it.
Short answer "NO", WTF? That's kinda why I hate selling anything, you typically get "those" people. And generally speaking, I'm a pretty easy going guy, but we all have our limits, and set them where you think they should be, a little respect sets a course for a better deal.
I would ask first if someone was nearby. But if not, I would probably open a door and look in. If I new the car, I might open the hood latch. If it was locked though, I would only look at the outside and underneath. If I liked what I saw, I would phone the number on the sign.
I think you should keep it locked and just crack the windows, if you don't want people messing with it.
I'd be the same I think...if it's at a house or garage I would try and ask first but if no one was around and it was open...I'd think they wanted people to have a good look. I never leave anything open that is for sale by the road. Hey ! how come there are no pics of this ventura on the site??? Or did I miss the for sale thread?
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If there's a "for sale " on someone's lawn, does that give anyone permission to just walk into the house to look a round? NO !!
A car is no different. It's still private property !!
Guess I'm different if its for sale, and clearly says for sale and its unlocked or the windows are open I would open it up look it over. If its for sale you'd think you would be happy someone's interested in it and you'd do what you can to sell it. If you don't want people looking at it lock it. And take the for sale sign out of it.
I know if I was in that situation and you came out yelling, I'd deffentally get in my car and leave and tell people he's a grumpy old man that doesn't really want to sell his car!
When I have something for sale I do what I can to sell it and not try to scare away buyers.
Geez, there certainly are some strange people around.
I'd walk to the car, look for a phone # on the sign, Then go to the door of the house ,garage, and be on the lookout for a wrangy dog, whatever, to enquire about it.
I have seen a couple of these dickheads who will pull and yank on stuff for sale, and they just have no respect for others property.
You can't call this bad manners, it is just plain being an obnoxious goof, who thinks he is the BIG important guy in this world.
If there's a "for sale " on someone's lawn, does that give anyone permission to just walk into the house to look a round? NO !! A car is no different. It's still private property !!
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I am selling a nice 77 Ventura hatchback.I have it beside my shop with a forsale sign in the window.
At night i put it behind the shop and bring it out when i am open.It sit there most nice days with the drivers window open and like I say with for sale signs in the windows
.Now the question ,today I caught a guy opening the hood,he was reefing on the latch and when I yelled out to ask what he was doing he said i wanna look at the engine.I said why didn't you ask me he said its for sale I can do what I want.He was pissed that I said he should ask befor getting into someones car .The thing is this guy showed up in a high dollar 70s firebird.I ould think there would be a little more respect.Is this the way things are now do people think just because its forsale they can just do what they want without asking first.I would never even think of going into someones car or opening there hood without permission.I don't even like to go on someones property to look at a car unless it is right by the road .Opening someones hood is not right ,what if the hood is broken and it breaks a windshield or they bend the latch because its a little out of ajustment and you have to hold it just so to close it properly.How am I suposed to know weather or not this guy is trying to steel an origional 2bbl air cleaner,ok thats a strech, but you know what I mean.People have broken handles off of my vintage stoves and friges because they "thought"they knew how to opn them ,who pays for that .This has happend to me twice now,the last guy wanted to punch my lights out when I suggested he should have asked before he got into a truck I was selling .Again I will ask do you think people have the right to enter or open your car without permission when it is forsale. Ed
Was the car behind or in the open? If it was out for sale with a sign and its open Most of us would look and also look at engine If I was looking and you came out..... I would be polite......
To me it's just common courtesy to meet the seller and ask permission to look over the vehicle. Having the attitude of "it's for sale I can do what I want" is asking for trouble.
Personally, I think the guy was out of line. No, he doesn't have the right to do anything, to, or with the vehicle. He doesn't own it. Period. There are clods in this world, and we have to be prepared for them as they show up from time to time. I can see the idea of having the privilege of looking over, or inspecting an item that is for sale, after all, it is out there on display for that reason. But...it also has to be done with some etiquette, common sense and respect. Obviously this dink had none of those. My way of thinking, the easy fix is lock it up and add to the For Sale sign...To inspect this vehicle, inquire within. You get to control the situation, and they don't get to run amuck.
Ask permission first. If its not yours don't touch it with out it. A lot of people have a skewed way of thinking these days, and have lost all respect for what is not theirs.
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I think the unlocked door was seen as an invitation to open the hood. Probably would have been better to have it locked if you didnt want anyone in it.
That said, I think the guy was being a dick when you came out and he said that he could do as he pleased. A simple sorry would have been a better approach...Now, he has no chance of buying it
Really no reason to open the hood . He could of just removed a couple fuse's to disable the car and then come and got you to ask to hear it run. Deal of the Week as is not running Lock IT.
-- Edited by slim on Monday 15th of July 2013 03:17:57 AM
It's called "break and enter" whether the door is open or not and permission is NOT implied with anything that is not yours! As some have already stated, if he breaks something who pays for that or is that when the knuckles start flying?
It a respect thing, not an entitlement as so many people seem to forget today.
How about if you walked over to HIS car and start screwing around inside, I'm sure he would have somethig to say about that!
A-holes...their breeding like rabbits these days!
No, he shouldn't have helped himself. A locked door is a good deterrent though, there are good people out there, but it takes all kinds to make the world go 'round! This guy was disrespectful, but try not to paint everyone with the same brush - I was coming up to a landscaper cutting grass near the edge of the road in the Cougar last week and when he saw me coming he stopped the mower and the blades until I passed - NICE! I waved to him to show my appreciation, there are still decent folks out there!
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Answers and opinions seem about what I thought .Older guys understand locked or not you don't open or enter without permission.Younger guys feel if its open its ok to go in.Interesting,maybe where you live has something to do with it as well.I live and work in a small town where if you leave something on your front lawn it is usually still there in the morning.I am finding some of the changes in our young peoples sense of privacy and respect for others and there stuff ,troubling,But thanks for your opinions ,they were helpfull. Ed
you see, the ventura is the bait car, ed cleverly uses it to attract people who otherwise wouldn't stop by. touching the bait car is a no no of course.
Locked, un-locked, open window or cranked tight it doesn't matter.
"FOR SALE" menas just that, not "rifle through everything before the guy that owns it gets out here"
When I sold one of my cars awhile back a fella stopped to look. Pulled the same crap even though he saw me coming out. I told him I'd show him what he wanted but let me do the opening - it's still MY car.
He'd gotten all ****y and I'd already decided I wouldn't sell to him when one of our Lab's arrived, just a pup, and it sniffed him out. He said "get your dog off me or I'll kick it's head in"
Told him to get the f*ck off my property now, said if he kicked my dog I'd do worse to him - it was a puppy.
He asked "what about the car?".
Seriously?, well "it's not for sale"
"But the sign says so" he replied. I took the sign, said "not to *ssholes" and took the pup in.
I think one or maybe 2 of you I would hire as sales people in my business. The rest of you, I would show the door. If you want to sell a vehicle, learn how to treat people who come to see it. Don't expect them to know what you are thinking. Anticipate what they will want and do and prepare accordingly. Don't invite them in to your showroom and then tie a fishing line across the threshold with a bucket of paint over the door. You'll make enemies out of prospective purchasers. JMO
I hear what you're saying Roger but buying a fella's hot-rod isn't the same as shopping for a new appliance - or whatever. And generally people who own such vehicles tend to have a little common respect. If it was a riding lawnmower or utility trailer I could have cared less but when the vehicle is different from a run-of-the-mill daily driver I think there's a protocol to be observed.
I know I don't just go tramping onto someone's yard and whip all the doors open just because it's for sale. I try to show a little respect.
By the way Rog, I was a fuel salesman. I entered people's property all the time but when it came to searching out the owner whether they be in the barn(s) or fields I started at the house, knocked and asked permission. The area I worked had some wealthy folk, down to earth but wealthy. They had some pretty nice toys tucked away in some of those tobacco kilns so I offered as much respect for their property as possible. Didn't make me a poor salesman, just a polite one.
-- Edited by Iwannagofast on Thursday 18th of July 2013 10:34:14 AM
Lock IT.