1930 Ford 2 Door Sedan

jarvis1 · COBBLE HILL, BC

1930 Ford 2 Door Sedan

jarvis1 · COBBLE HILL, BC

Those "stars" on the doors were a hot item at CTC years ago.

http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/ABenginenumbers.htm

-- Edited by jarvis1 on Thursday 22nd of August 2013 06:44:23 PM

Fishhooks · FONTHILL, ONT

Hello there.....First of all, thank you for the ability to join this awesome forum.

I just purchased a "1930 Ford 2 Door Sedan" last night, but the person that I bought it from is not sure if it is in fact a 1930? The engine block has the block number that represents a Canadian made flathead V8 and was built in Windsor, Ontario in March 1932. Now the block is not mounted in the car and there is no transmission.

The car is dismantled and in pieces and I have been around enough to know that all is there minus the tranny and 1 rear fender (no big deal).

I guess my question is....I am unsure about how to "age" the vehicle properly since the block is not attached to the car and there is no original documentation about the actual YOM. Unfortunately the patent plates are not attached.

Are there any distinguishing marks or characteristics that I can look for to determine whether it is a 1930 or a 1932?

Thank you in advance for your help with this and I look forward to many more topics to come.

Hooks

not as drunk as you thinkle peep I am · GTA, ONT

model a's never came with flathead v8.

32's did not have a visor above windshield.

if that is the original engine, you have a 32.

easy to tell from a pic, post one if you can.

Fishhooks · FONTHILL, ONT

Now this is in pieces, so difficult to decipher everything from the photos that I have.

But here goes......

fatchuk · ST MARYS, ONTARIO

Definitely NOT a 32..and the engine could be anything Looks like it has the 30 bumpers ..Some numbers off the flat-head would help to I.D. it

janies dirty 37 · SOUTH RIVER, ONT

Welcome Hooks. Glad to have ya here. biggrin

Be sure to post an intro in introduction thread as well......and mention this thread.

Lots of knowledgeable people here that can help.

Janice

Dubya31 · SPRUCEDALE, ONT

It's a 30 or 31 tudor sedan according to the belt line and cowl.

Fishhooks · FONTHILL, ONT

One more request.....

The seller told me that he was told (sorry for the run-around) that this was an Ontario Police Car....it has 2 articulated spot lights and these stars on both doors.

Any insight is appreciated.

Hooks

RacerRick · TORONTO, ONT

On the drivers side front of the frame, right under the cowl, there should be a serial number if it is an original ford frame, IIRC. That will be the cars serial number if it is the original frame. Many cars in those years got registered by engine numbers, so if you got a title with the car, it may not match the frame number.

slim · DUNDAS, ONT

Its a 30 came from Welland the first 2 pictures are from the original owners house . should of had an ownership with it. known about this one for a few years want more info pm me and Ill fill you in. should only be missing two rear fenders.

-- Edited by slim on Thursday 22nd of August 2013 11:32:45 PM

sasquatch · NORTH BAY, ONT

Brian, the flathead engine if it is a original 32 engine, 32 was the only year the flathead V8 came with a single barrel carb. All others where two barrels.

Now that doesn't mean your's could'nt have been changed over the years. According to my 84 year old buddy who has an original 32 roadster he has restored, that single barrel 32 set up is super rare.

Gwillyville Kid · BRADFORD, ONT

Check the driver's side frame rail on the engine side close to where the steering box mounts. Keep cleaning until you get to bare steel. Wipe steel clean of dust and look closely you will find the number. By 1927 Ford was using a serial number on the frame. Prior they had used serial number of Block for VIN. The number is there. Keep cleaning, change the angle of your light. Patience grasshopper and you will find your reward.

the Kid

Bruce Rossiter · TORONTO, ONT

As others have mentioned, the serial number will be on the driver's side of the frame rail and just under the cowl, if it hasn't rusted away which often happens.

The front bumper is an oddball bumper and could be an aftermarket bumper. The bumper brackets appear to be bolted on with a modified Canadian bumper mount that used a round headed bolt as a fastener.

The splash apron appears to be a two part apron which is used on a 1930 only and the 1931 splash apron was a one piece apron similar to the design used on a 1928/29.

The firewall isn't the indented type used on a 1931 so in all likelihood, the body you have is a 1930.

Bruce Rossiter · TORONTO, ONT

According to the serial number, that engine was produced between June 2nd, 1931 and February 29, 1932. The numbers used ranged from #1 to #6877.

jarvis1 · COBBLE HILL, BC

Ford made 4 cylinder engines right up to 1934.
The later cranks are valuable.
1928–1931 Ford Model A engine (see Ford Model A (1927-1931)
1932–1934 Ford Model B engine (see Ford Model B (1932)

fatchuk · ST MARYS, ONTARIO

Unfortunately that is not the rare desired V8 32 flat-head..that's too bad ..but would have been surprizing if it was an original 32 flathead V8 givin how many guys are always sniffing these things out ...

Fishhooks · FONTHILL, ONT

Giving your experience...what would you say it is worth then? I will not be keeping this block since I am placing a new engine / transmission in place when I am at that point.

not as drunk as you thinkle peep I am · GTA, ONT

a good not cracked model a bloks not worth much. tons of model a use engine number for registeration. if u cant find number on frame, use numbers off blok to register and use blok to prove ownership of those numbers. the blok in yur pic is a 4cyl not an 8cyl. if u use blok numbers to reg do not get rid of block, keep it regardles of wether u install a diff motor.

Fishhooks · FONTHILL, ONT

"not worth that much".......How much would you say? Otherwise scrap metal here we come.

fatchuk · ST MARYS, ONTARIO

Just because it ain't worth much/anything...Do not be in a hurry to scrap it ..Check out some other sites like some model"A" restorers or the Fordbarn.. somebody might be able to use it or the head or something..Even though it's just an A block I would soak it in some oil or something and hang on to for a bit..remember they don't make em any more and it might help a fellow car guy some day so for now keep as a lawn ornament..