Rear disc brakes for nine inch ford

Homer · BLOOMINGDALE, ONT

Rear disc brakes for nine inch ford

Cat in the Hat · BRANTFORD, ONT

Homer.....$200 will buy you everything you need from Speedway Motors

Hat, rotors, brakets, calipers, brake pads, bolts....everything...Brand New

I use that kit on evry 9 inch I build......can't beat it

And....can be done in about 2-3 hours

Rochie · LONDON, ONT

Homer,
I have discs on the 8in rear of the 29. I went to a "good" wrecker and grabbed the rear discs off of a 96/02 crown vic/ marquis. They are damn near a bolt on. I used everything...mounts, calipers, flex lines, emergency brakes...everything!!! you have to make, or get Schwartz to cut you, a 3in OD, 1/4in thick spacer that goes in between the bearing retainer and the bearing .
I'm not kidding ...it's just about that easy. I played with the position of the mounts and calipers before I got it right , but everything worked and the bleed screws are on top and at the rear of the axle AND the emergency brake works

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-- Edited by Rochie on Wednesday 18th of September 2013 04:31:30 PM

not as drunk as you thinkle peep I am · GTA, ONT

just wondering if the speedway kit gives you a parking brake?

one thing about factory disc stuff for 9" rears is not all 9" rears came with the same axle housing ends. i think there were three available, large bearing, small bearing and torino. you would need to determine what housing ends you have then find the correct factory stuff for it.

so whats the point/benefit of 4wheel disc on a typical street rod? is it just for looks?

Homer · BLOOMINGDALE, ONT

Thanks guys
Why do I want to use disc on the rear,plain and simple,work alot better.

Glenn the speedway Motors with the E brakes is about $500 smakers.

Rochie that is what I was looking for.

Thanks Ziggy for the diagrams

Homer

-- Edited by Homer on Wednesday 18th of September 2013 05:56:39 PM

Cat in the Hat · BRANTFORD, ONT

Parking brake kit is an additional charge...I like to use the driveshaft parking brake for the cool factor

Bearing have nothing to do with the kit.... Take all drum parts off including backing plate

Brake hat fits over wheel studs ....rotor bolts to hat....caliper braket welds to axle

Benefits? plenty of whoa!....even without power booster...and looks cool

not as drunk as you thinkle peep I am · GTA, ONT

thanks for the info regarding the speedway kit.

the reason i mentioned the different factory housing ends is in case he decides to convert to disc using factory parts. if i remember right the factory caliper mounting bracket bolts to the housing end. if i am correct then he has to determine which housing ends he has because i dont think the factory 'small bearing' disc brakes will bolt up to 'large bearing' housing ends and vice-versa.

i know for sure there are large and small housing ends. i 'think' there was a third style that was known as the torino ends. i could be wrong on that tho.

just a thought here. he might be able to use all the rear disc components from an explorer (think they had the 8.8) and just fab up the caliper brackets. might not be as easy as it seems tho.

Cat in the Hat · BRANTFORD, ONT

you are correct about "Big and Little"

Ziggy · TRENTON, ONT

diagrams to show the differences between the 3 styles

webpages.charter.net/w01845730/pictures/bigford.gif

webpages.charter.net/w01845730/pictures/bigbrgtorino.gif

webpages.charter.net/w01845730/pictures/smallford.gif

Ziggy · TRENTON, ONT

not as drunk as you thinkle peep I am wrote:
thanks for the info regarding the speedway kit.

the reason i mentioned the different factory housing ends is in case he decides to convert to disc using factory parts. if i remember right the factory caliper mounting bracket bolts to the housing end. if i am correct then he has to determine which housing ends he has because i dont think the factory 'small bearing' disc brakes will bolt up to 'large bearing' housing ends and vice-versa.

i know for sure there are large and small housing ends. i 'think' there was a third style that was known as the torino ends. i could be wrong on that tho.

just a thought here. he might be able to use all the rear disc components from an explorer (think they had the 8.8) and just fab up the caliper brackets. might not be as easy as it seems tho.

'95 Explorer and later 8.8 axles are supposed to interchange with the later big bearing (what some call the torino rear end)

Gazoo · BADEN, ONT

Rochie...I'm looking at doing this swap also. Did your overall width of the axle change? I have very little clearance, with my current wheel and tire set up, 1/4" in either direction and I'd have to change rims and go with a different offset.

Rochie · LONDON, ONT

Gazoo,

You know, I never measured the difference. It wouldn't have mattered on the 29 as it's fenderless. But thinking about it, I don't think it would . The only difference is the thickness of the rotor mounting surface to the drum mounting surface.

If I only had a 1/4 in space beteen the tire and the wheelwell I' be looking for a diferent set of wheels for sure.

Homer just sent me this email... "Wayne did you have to drill out the backing plates to fit your flanges,as I have a different hole pattern than you"

All I had to do was open up 2 holes with a die grinder. Oh, I used right side stock flex hoses as well it makes the job of plumbing much neater.

.

-- Edited by Rochie on Thursday 19th of September 2013 08:58:36 AM

-- Edited by Rochie on Thursday 19th of September 2013 08:58:56 AM

not as drunk as you thinkle peep I am · GTA, ONT

Rochie wrote:
You know, I never measured the difference. It wouldn't have mattered on the 29 as it's fenderless. But thinking about it, I don't think it would . The only difference is the thickness of the rotor mounting surface to the drum mounting surface.

i am guessing the question regarding overall width stems from the comment made regarding 1/4" spacers needed between the bearing and bearing retainer. just a guess. tho.

Rochie · LONDON, ONT

Well, the bearing spacer just allows the caliper bracket to apply some force ont to the bearing face to keep it in place. Overall there's no difference in the measurement from one axle wheel mounting flange to the other. That dimension doesn't change, so the only difference I can see is the thickness of the rotor compared to the drum

Gazoo · BADEN, ONT

Rochie wrote:
Well, the bearing spacer just allows the caliper bracket to apply some force ont to the bearing face to keep it in place. Overall there's no difference in the measurement from one axle wheel mounting flange to the other. That dimension doesn't change, so the only difference I can see is the thickness of the rotor compared to the drum

Thanks Rochie, that's exactly what I was looking for. I kinda figured as much, but there was no mention about re-using the stock axles or the bearings. Had to make sure.

Cheers.

Rochie · LONDON, ONT

Gazoo,
you do have to press the bearing off the axle to install the spacer. I took that as the right time to change the axle bearings and of course the seals.

Gazoo · BADEN, ONT

For sure I'd replace the bearings and seals. There might have been different style bearing and axles also on the rear disc set up that maybe I wasn't aware of. I'm a Mopar guy, I know my way around an 8 3/4", but Fords are new to me. The 9" housing I have is from a '57, the width was perfect fit, without mods for my old pick-up.

wuga · PRINCE EDWARD COUNTY, ONT

Two things. I put four wheel disk brakes on my Cutlass. Had the fronts done first. Adding the rears didn't make any difference. And trying to get the emergency to work was impossible. Have changed the handle and the cables 3 times, still not satisfactory. On my rod, I installed a Lucky 7 9" and installed Speedway drums. They are massive. I have disks on the front and I'm sure I will have no problem stopping, after all, the fronts do about 80% of the work. I have installed a TSM pinion parking brake, cable and handle; easy install and locks up real good. www.tsmmfg.com
I had a 9" with disk brakes out of a Lincoln, but figured I would have to change pretty well everything for safety.

By the way, your brother painted my 32 Bantam back in 67.

wuga

johnod · SOUTHERN ONTARIO

Ford explorer discs 1995-2001
Also has E brake in the hats.

Couple of posts about it.

http://www.mandtconsulting.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=23:ford-9-inch-explorer-disk-break-upgrade&catid=5:tech-truck&Itemid=13

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=569272

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