MTO, MOE, OPP, Alcohol and Tobacco Blitz Guelph Line and 401 @ Mohawk Racetrack

69SS454 · MILTON, ONT

MTO, MOE, OPP, Alcohol and Tobacco Blitz Guelph Line and 401 @ Mohawk Racetrack

slim · DUNDAS, ONT

Send off the copy and see them in court . Who cares if you win or loose its all about wasting time and backing up the system. All they are doing is trying to justify a pay raise .It has crap to do with safety. Pigs at the trough

flatblack55delivery · PORT HOPE, ONT

Sombody has got to pay that billion dollars for those gas plants somehow. Ed

58Chev · ETOBICOKE, ONT

jarvis1 wrote:
Tell your complaints to the family of the lady that was killed by the tires and wheels that came through her windshield on the Skyway Bridge a couple years ago.

Mechanical inspections is one thing and I see that a lot on the side of some industrial road here in Etobicoke.

But when the MOE pull out the fine toothed comb and start looking for emissions components on every vehicle they pull over is a bit much.

-- Edited by 58Chev on Thursday 17th of October 2013 05:13:10 AM

fatstax · COBOURG, ONT

thier main funtion is to generate revenue, and for certan they will find whatever they can to bring in the bucks, our rights be damned! people should be filming these agencys violating our rights. thye count on ignorance and rules they make up as they go along, anything they can do to make you self incriminate.

fatstax · COBOURG, ONT

69SS454 wrote:
They will be back again tomorrow (Thurs Oct. 17) They are pulling huge amounts of vehicles both commercial and personal vehicles right off the HWY and making vehicles follow them into Mohack racetrack parking lot. There are officers from every form of government OPP, MTO, MOE, Alcohol and tobacco to name a few. Over 50% fail rate according to one officer. Our guys got 2 tickets...one for unsecured load (1 strap did not have load rating on it) and 1 for the trailer brake controller not deing able to hold the truck in place without the truck brakes applied. One of our guys received a warning from Alcohol and tobacco for not having 3 no smoking stickers applied to a commercial vehicle!! Apparently you have to have a sticker attached to each window and one on the winsheild or dash!!!
Despite having all new equipment.. trucks and deck over trailers (all less than 2 years old) we have accumulated over $1500 in tickets this year alone. Each time they give us a tickets we comply and again they will pull us over and give a different set of tickets.. 4x this year we have been pulled. We stop at weigh scales and get tickets WTF!!!

To Serve and COLLECT should be on the door
If you are passing by this way...Good Luck
JUST ****'N SAY'N

-- Edited by 69SS454 on Wednesday 16th of October 2013 07:13:39 PM

-- Edited by 69SS454 on Wednesday 16th of October 2013 07:15:15 PM

this is the type of warning the people should come together and do, tell others about our corrupt governments attempts to fleece the population. information is power.

jarvis1 · COBBLE HILL, BC

Tell your complaints to the family of the lady that was killed by the tires and wheels that came through her windshield on the Skyway Bridge a couple years ago.

not as drunk as you thinkle peep I am · GTA, ONT

i was on my boat on lake ontario the other day (fishing). noticed two cop boats drive by. half hour or so later the same two cop boats are heading by once again (other direction). this time one comes over while the other waits around (I am the only pleasure craft on the lake as far as i can tell). the cop checks out almost everything (life jackets, oars, floating line, working flashlight, operators licence, fishing licence, whistle, is gas tank mounted to boat? (need an extinguisher if the gas tank is 'mounted'), size of engine (below 10hp doesnt need to be registered) ........... the only thing they didnt check was for alcohol in the two cooler bags (only beer we had on us what root beer so it wouldnt have mattered). when it was over he left with all his tickets still in his book as i was legal.

getting hassled didnt really bother me as i was prepared. what did piss me off was these govt workers were driving around in TWO boats (one an inboard and one had TWO outboard motors) just wasting tons of fuel (not sure theres anything less fuel efficient than a boat) and costing taxpayers a lot of money in wages (two govt employees on one boat and at least 2 on the larger boat).

this kind of stuff isnt limited to ontario though. i found a video on line where some kid had parked his volvo in his driveway and there were two cop cars at the 'scene' with three cops present. two stood around while one took multiple pictures of this kids muffler as well as measuring the diameter of the tailpipe (it was not a massive 'fart can'). really????? three cops 'saving the general public' from a volvo muffler ????? what a joke (and total waste of taxpayer money).

i have a friend in the trucking business and his opinion is to steer clear of those blitz sites as he feels (and has heard) that they WILL find something wrong (meaning ticketable) if they pull you over. yup ........ i personally feel VERY threatened knowing that there are some trucks out there on the 401 without the required three 'no smoking' stickers. what a joke .....................

btw thanks for mentioning this particular blitz.

-- Edited by not as drunk as you thinkle peep I am on Thursday 17th of October 2013 10:22:48 AM

69SS454 · MILTON, ONT

I have talked with 3 other people that live in the area and have been pulled in and ticketed for minor ****. It pisses me off that we (locals) have to deal with this several times a year just because we live near their favorite blitz site! 3 seperate time now we have been nailed at this site and received tickets for BS.

They are pulling non commercial vehicles as well

-- Edited by 69SS454 on Thursday 17th of October 2013 12:19:13 PM

poncho62 · ADMINISTRATOR

flatblack55delivery wrote:
Sombody has got to pay that billion dollars for those gas plants somehow. Ed

Ontario...."Ours to Recover"

Cat in the Hat · BRANTFORD, ONT

Big difference between Tires and rims coming off.....and No Smoking Stickers!

Soooooooo. What can we do as a small website.....to make it better?

We have a lot of smart people here....some retired with time......maybe start a lobby group?

Just askin ???????

fatstax · COBOURG, ONT

58Chev wrote:
jarvis1 wrote:
Tell your complaints to the family of the lady that was killed by the tires and wheels that came through her windshield on the Skyway Bridge a couple years ago.
Mechanical inspections is one thing and I see that a lot on the side of some industrial road here in Etobicoke.
But when the MOE pull out the fine toothed comb and start looking for emissions components on every vehicle they pull over is a bit much.

-- Edited by 58Chev on Thursday 17th of October 2013 05:13:10 AM

this is where the mto failed, they should be pounding big trucks even more so and not harrasing small timers they know they can push around, big trucks put on millions of k's and wheels still come off due to lack of maintenance. here we have hese clowns nailing people for missing no smoking stickers, see the problem here?

flatblack55delivery · PORT HOPE, ONT

Maybe if the trucking compnays get pissed enough they will use there conciderable clout to get the ball rolling.As for the truck tire thing ,if the MOE and Tobacco cops are involved than this is no more a safety blitz than Etest being an environmental effort.You make a great point Grumps and there has to be a way to stop the harrasment of people just going about there business.I wonder what the cost of this campaign in man hours (in our town all the cops make more than a hundred grand a year),Energy costs(idling cars and escorts)rental of the grounds ,would be compared to revinue generated.And what of the cost to the public in missed appointments,hours of work lost,missed flights,late picking up kids etc.It is sad that with all the governmet waste, these heavy handed money grabbing crackdowns ,sorry "safety blitzes" ,are becoming more and more common .Maybe a few well placed letters to the editor in the local paper and maybe a to the Wheels section of the Star would be a place to start. Ed

69SS454 · MILTON, ONT

WOW!!! It's nuts there this morning. I went down for my morning coffee and even seen a Halton Marine vehicle unit pulling cars!! They have vehicles on every side/corner of the 401 and on the 401 as well. Over 75 officers working!!
STAY AWAY

shag766 · FOXBORO, ONT

man i am really happy to be on the getting out side of having commercial vehicles. 8-9 of them from a 2013 pete to my 2007 escalade the oldest. had an mto audit about a year ago due to a guy getting a fine for his log book being out by 4 hours in the toronto area. they were 2 1/2 days on our dime, tax's, and probably 4-5 hrs my dime looking stuff up. to get nothing wrong.
there was a front page headline in one of the big papers yesterday, "civil employee's take 80% more time off than the private sector". we have some lets say heated debates at our family functions. a brother and a sister just retired from the 100,000.00 plus club. mom,r.i.p., use to be the referee. anyway, we let it get here. its easier to close the door before the horses get out rather than put them back in and close it.

just saying

Cat in the Hat · BRANTFORD, ONT

Kurt...was the Halton Marine unit pulling over Amphicars?

Good thing there wasnt a `Rod Run`out that way today....we`d be TOAST!

not as drunk as you thinkle peep I am · GTA, ONT

i remember seeing something like that on the 401 several years ago. i think i may have been on my way to trenton for the CSRA event. i spotted a cop doing radar for the westbound cars (i was heading east) ... he wasnt more than a mile or two from accident or construction (really cant remember which it was) that closed one of the two westbound lanes of the 401. the line of traffic backed up behind the accident (or construction) was literally MILES long on an rediculously hot day. the cop obviously figured the poor suckers stuck in traffic for hours would be impatient and would speed once they got out of the traffic jam ...... and he'd be sitting there waiting with ticket book open. what a *********** if you ask me.

-- Edited by not as drunk as you thinkle peep I am on Thursday 17th of October 2013 06:00:55 PM

-- Edited by poncho62 on Thursday 17th of October 2013 06:06:41 PM

not as drunk as you thinkle peep I am · GTA, ONT

not as drunk as you thinkle peep I am wrote:
i remember seeing something like that on the 401 several years ago. i think i may have been on my way to trenton for the CSRA event. i spotted a cop doing radar for the westbound cars (i was heading east) ... he wasnt more than a mile or two from accident or construction (really cant remember which it was) that closed one of the two westbound lanes of the 401. the line of traffic backed up behind the accident (or construction) was literally MILES long on an rediculously hot day. the cop obviously figured the poor suckers stuck in traffic for hours would be impatient and would speed once they got out of the traffic jam ...... and he'd be sitting there waiting with ticket book open. what a effin caulk sucker if you ask me.

speaking of barrie cops. i saw a security video that showed a barrie cop (at least i think i remember reading he was a barrie cop) beat the hell out of some guy who had forgotten his wallet in the bowling alley he had just left. the young guy got charged with some crap as i recall but then the security camera video showed that he hadnt done anything wrong and the cop had beaten the hell out of a person he is paid to protect. thank god for that video or that kid would be screwed. at the end of the video you see an employee of the premises hosing all the blood of the sidewalk ..... the cop beat the effen hell out of this kid for nothing.

-- Edited by not as drunk as you thinkle peep I am on Thursday 17th of October 2013 06:06:18 PM

-- Edited by not as drunk as you thinkle peep I am on Thursday 17th of October 2013 06:07:11 PM

jarvis1 · COBBLE HILL, BC

Yes, I suppose the no smoking sticker is reaching a bit too far.
Would it do any good if the truckers just shut down all trucking for a day or two.
Listen to the general public screaming for their groceries.

Cat in the Hat · BRANTFORD, ONT

Good thing you didnt have the Nova out LMAO

BARRIE, ONTARIO

Ahhh the sweet sounds of summer in Ontario .
here,s one from barrie just so ya,ll don't think its just your town . 4.30 pm young st south is getting busy cause drivers jockeying for position at the go terminal south end at maple view . just starting the local rush hour , we get another toroonna cummutor rush hour after 6 pm .
driving south on young , u pass a low income housing unit , maybe 30 units , then a seniors home , maybe 100 units ??? . at the seniors I thinkl the fire dept had a practice run , trucks parked on road , some more in the parking lot . , no ambulance or rescue . But you gotta move over to get around them , so rubber neckers , people trying to see what happened , traffic slams to a stop , back to a crawl , then dead stop then go , after u get thru that about with no police or fire people on road doing traffic control .... about 1000 ft past the seniors how , sitting in a open view parking lot is one of barrie,s finest , doing a speed trap / radar on the north bound side , which in a 1/4 mile open stretch there was like maybe 10 cars . like wtf . was wasn't this azz clown a 1000 ft up the street looking after traffic ???. no " income " from that kinda activity that's why
That's F,d up to a major degree , but that's barrie , look up barrie police on u tube . I think they got folmed 5 cops beating the he ll outta some guy down town , some girl was filming it with her phone , cop walks up an slaps the phone outta her hand , she has some kinda fancy job . I think its called ... para legal . so that,ll be in the papers soon .
to serve an protect our elected officials an tim hortons parking lots every where .
Now myself . I wouldn't want to do a cops job , ( like real cop stuff , rapes murders molesters etc )but if I was getting 100 k a yr I,d probably give it a try

shag766 · FOXBORO, ONT

69SS454 wrote:
I have talked with 3 other people that live in the area and have been pulled in and ticketed for minor ****. It pisses me off that we (locals) have to deal with this several times a year just because we live near their favorite blitz site! 3 seperate time now we have been nailed at this site and received tickets for BS.
They are pulling non commercial vehicles as well

-- Edited by 69SS454 on Thursday 17th of October 2013 12:19:13 PM

3 seperate time now we have been nailed at this site and received tickets for BS.

just asking but, at one time if your truck went through a check and all was good they put a colored sticker in the windshield that was good for a couple of months?? telling the next check point that you were good to go until the color change of the sticker expired.

being a little less involved now, i'm curious if they don't do this anymore. i know the truck that done the lindsay-peterboro area run 3 times a week always had a sticker in the windshield, different colors for a different time frame. that always was an area for checks. my driver of 20yrs use to chuckle when the color expired knowing there was a new color coming. i remember going around the lot on a weekend for a walk-around and there would be 4-5 trucks with stickers on them. the toronto to hamilton area truck always seemed to have a sticker also. another 20yr guy.

if i was still driving for a living i wouldn't put many miles on anymore, i'd be in jail. i don't handle B.S. stupidity very well. i use to do some runs if a driver was off but not no more. about 6-7 yrs ago north of tweed there was a check and i pretty much went ballistic over a log book thing. he insisted i needed one but i didn't inside a 100mi radius and my farthest point was bancroft, 80mi. he was the judge and jury on the spot. try calling an mto center to get a ruling while you stand there, not happening. thats when the fuse got lite. had to bring another driver up as i was put out of service. some months later it was thrown out in court and not so much as a i'm sorry. add that bill up.

a tid-bit, some yrs ago at the bowmanville coupe we got a b.s. fine. can't remember what but it was b-s. i got to thinking and snooped around and found a recently retired inspector out of kingston. he was a bit of a boss also. he lived just n-e of belleville. i approached him about keeping my system in order for the trucks. he was a bit hesitant but i think it was the steaks involved with the $$ that got him. he came in and did a audit for us and then set up a system that we just fill in the blanks on. he comes around 2-3 times a year for a check up and steaks. lol

i consider it some of the best money i ever spent. he has resolved a couple of issues over the yrs.

-- Edited by shag766 on Friday 18th of October 2013 04:47:40 AM

BARRIE, ONTARIO

was 2 guys one too much too drink knocked over part of a display in mall . the friend came back an cop was gonna arrest him , wrong guy , cop said his life was in danger cause guy had his hands in pockets , so he beat the hell outta him
but don't worry cop got time off , with pay , and is getting anger management classes
most of the barrie cops now are hired drop outs from torunna
once you get pulled over see the shaved head , the dark glasses , the strut , walking towards you , get ready , welcome to barrie ..77.

Fordy Acres Car Farm · DORCHESTER, ONT

Me thinks if the sticker idea was in use, Staples would be out of inventory and truckers glove boxes would be full with every colour under the sun! ;^)

Modfather · VICTORIA HARBOUR, ONT

I was coming back from Woodbridge last Monday up the 400. I was following several cars and SUV"s towing trailers. I know why they are pulling them over now. I have actually started to stay clear of anyone pulling a frigin trailer. GVW means nothing to some like the guy that is hauling a 26' power boat with a Ford Ranger or the pulling a 28' travel trailer with a Honda SUV. Im Just sayin too. I value my life and who ever is with me so I am not totally against what they are doing. I also understand the going over board part too.

69SS454 · MILTON, ONT

We have a sticker on the one truck now for going through weigh scales that is good for 8 mths. IMO the sticker is so that they know they have already gouged this guy and nothing more. Once the sticker is expired we know we will be gouged again and every 8 mths from then on regardless of how "safe" we keep our trucks and trailers. I am for safety as well but it has gone way past that. It is now just another tax in disguise.

sasquatch · NORTH BAY, ONT

Certainly makin things tough on everyone, but especially the small guy trying to get by.

2inchestoolow · CLARINGTON, ONTARIO

This was all over talk radio today. Listening to some callers drove my blood pressure up.

Apparently 40% of the vehicles had charges laid.

Now, I am sure a number were warranted, but to listen to some of these callers every truck is a rolling disaster.

I have to stop listening to talk radio.

sasquatch · NORTH BAY, ONT

Stopping listening to talk radio solves nothing.

Untill the sheeple of this country start standing up "TOGETHER" and start pressuring the Governments to start eliminating a lot of these damned stupid laws, we all are at the mercy of these paid experts who dream up all these
more complicating regulations.

Dick Kirkpatrick · MILTON, ONTARIO

Hey, they can't eliminate the stupid laws and road checks and radar traps etc. etc. etc.

How else do you think they are going to keep all the civil servants working and stealing our tax dollars.

I do not know the exact statistic, but I think it is close to one civil servant for every four of us working folks who will not get a pension when we retire that is 80% of our wage before retiring.

2inchestoolow · CLARINGTON, ONTARIO

sasquatch wrote:
Stopping listening to talk radio solves nothing.

Untill the sheeple of this country start standing up "TOGETHER" and start pressuring the Governments to start eliminating a lot of these damned stupid laws, we all are at the mercy of these paid experts who dream up all these
more complicating regulations.

Believe me, I know what "needs" to happen. I have been and am involved in such a movement. It takes a lot more than just saying something needs to be done or signing a petition. It takes large numbers of people dedicated to keeping the fight alive for a long period of time, it takes large amounts money fronted by those that truly want the change. It takes the right individuals to stand at the front of the line and legally challenge the legislations that are believed to be corrupt, misguided, or against our rights and freedoms.

Time, passion and money is the fuel for change. The problem is, with things like this that fuel is hard to maintain, the general population has very little of any of the three...let alone any consistency in beliefs.

I'll get off my soap box now. This is how I get elected to jobs I don't need. LOL

Ziggy · TRENTON, ONT

As for the stickers that shag766 is talking about.
They are not the yellow annual inspection stickers, but stickers that are received when you pass a roadside inspection. They will use 4 different colored stickers per year. The are affixed on the right side of the passenger windshield. If you get 1 in Jan, April, July, or Oct, the DOT/MTO officer will cut the sticker twice at the top to make it look like it has a point. If you get a sticker in Feb, May, Aug, Nov, they will only cut it once. If you get one in Mar, June, Sept, or Dec, then they do not cut it at all. If been through many DOT inspections in the last 25 years and just because you may have received one, it does not mean you are good for the next 3 months. I went through 3 in 1 week. All 3 times it was with a different trailer! Still passed all 3 inspections!

To Fordy
These stickers have serial numbers on them. The DOT/MTO can inter them numbers into the databanks and enable them to find when, where,who and for what vehicle it was issued by or from.

As for 2inchestoolow...
DEFINE truck. Are they (they idiots on the radio) talking about a 1/2ton?? 3/4 ton??? 1 ton??? 5 ton???? A cube van??? A semi?? Something that you have to remember is that most people will define a truck as something that is not a car or mini-van. Don't believe everything you hear!

Now as for me smoking in the semi I drive, they can not do a damn thing about. It is not a work place.
A work place is defined as: a place that has a toilet and a place to wash your hands (running water). A couple of other drivers have been charged for that down towards the Windsor area. They took it to court and it was tossed out due to the definition of a "work place".

Now as for the MOE, they could also be checking fuel. I have heard of some diesel trucks (both pick up and semi's) that have been pulled in and have had the fuel tested. Some have been caught running stove (furnace) oil. Cheaper than highway diesel and considered tax evasion. I was in Louisiana a couple of days after hurricane Katrina running relief. The US Army filled our trucks with bunker oil. Afterwards we was given a letter stating such and it was valid for 6 months. It exempted us from any problems should we get pulled over and have the fuel tanks dipped and tested.

-- Edited by Ziggy on Saturday 19th of October 2013 11:58:06 PM

2inchestoolow · CLARINGTON, ONTARIO

You need to read a current copy of the OHSA for Ontario. I am in no way saying that this is how it SHOULD be defined, but how it IS defined. The quote above is a screen shot from the MOL website -Key terms and concepts page.

Also, I wasn't the one defining what they pulled over, just the quotes on both 1010 and 640. I am very aware of the general publics over generalization of virtually everything...which was one of the things raising my blood pressure.

Ziggy · TRENTON, ONT

2inchestoolow wrote:

You need to read a current copy of the OHSA for Ontario. I am in no way saying that this is how it SHOULD be defined, but how it IS defined. The quote above is a screen shot from the MOL website -Key terms and concepts page.
Also, I wasn't the one defining what they pulled over, just the quotes on both 1010 and 640. I am very aware of the general publics over generalization of virtually everything...which was one of the things raising my blood pressure.

well hell... looks like everybudy is F#$Ked then. a building, mine,construction site, vehicle, open field, road, forest... Guess they could really nab a bunch when it come to lunch and coffee brakes! lol

the define trucks comment was never directed towards you. Too many times the media shoots before they ask questions. Its like innocent till proven guilty... that went out the window how many years ago?????

2inchestoolow · CLARINGTON, ONTARIO

Yup! They have us covered! LOL

I hear ya on the media, I didn't take it as directed at me, I just wanted to be clear about where the info was coming from.

Ziggy · TRENTON, ONT

2inchestoolow wrote:
Yup! They have us covered! LOL

I hear ya on the media, I didn't take it as directed at me, I just wanted to be clear about where the info was coming from.

LOL! cool at this end too!!

Gwillyville Kid · BRADFORD, ONT

Just wonderin' If no one votes for the Liberals, how do they get elected?

the Kid

hemi43 · ONTARIO

Gwillyville Kid wrote:
Just wonderin' If no one votes for the Liberals, how do they get elected?

the Kid

All the damn foreigners do !!

Dave Scott · ANCASTER, ONT

hemi43 wrote:
Gwillyville Kid wrote:
Just wonderin' If no one votes for the Liberals, how do they get elected?

the Kid
All the damn foreigners do !!

Us foreigners don't get a vote

fatstax · COBOURG, ONT

Dave Scott wrote:
hemi43 wrote:
Gwillyville Kid wrote:
Just wonderin' If no one votes for the Liberals, how do they get elected?

the Kid
All the damn foreigners do !!
Us foreigners don't get a vote

ur not refugees who come here looking for handouts, they are the ones who become citizens and vote for whoever will guarentee the free meal ticket