Drive Clean bullsh*t

Iwannagofast · ONTARIO

Drive Clean bullsh*t

dualquadpete · BLACKSTOCK, ONT

Of course their going to wait till next year, just like they said they have a "bill" coming to stop the outragious perks & bonus's & salaries to CEO in public sector!!! The "Election" is 2014, so they will start this B/S of giving back D/Clean $$ by reduced fees, brag about their new bill to reduce waste & other "crap" will come out as well to "BUY" our votes in hopes of us forgetting all their "F" ups & scandels & BILLIONS down the tube & billed back to us the VOTERS!!!! How stupid do they think we are!! OH Wait a minute, they got voted in last time by a bunch of "STUPID" Ontario people!!!!

Molten · CAMBOURNE, ONT

Just got my Christmas package in mail.
My e-test due and they give you all these driving instruction to do before arriving at thier door to "try" to make sure it passes. Not sure what it costs.
My sticker due, $90 one year and my drivers licence to be renewed, another $80

Merry fn'in Christmas!!

Modfather · VICTORIA HARBOUR, ONT

Happy birthday Molten. We all get that birthday present each year. Only some of us have multiple vehicles. lol As for the MTO well at least they are checking newer vehicles I think they should be checking where emissions testing is not required Like in the north.

sasquatch · NORTH BAY, ONT

In the North??? Hell check out the boundary line that i think Fatchuck posted here awhile back, it sure was damned strange to me how it tapered across ontario.
like who in hell ever decided WHERE the boundary would be???
Yeah------------- i know, some moron in his office in TO no doubt.

poncho62 · ADMINISTRATOR

Shhhhhhhhhhhhh.....be quieter.....No drive clean here....just far enough in the sticks I guess

johnod · SOUTHERN ONTARIO

sasquatch wrote:
In the North??? Hell check out the boundary line that i think Fatchuck posted here awhile back, it sure was damned strange to me how it tapered across ontario.
like who in hell ever decided WHERE the boundary would be???
Yeah------------- i know, some moron in his office in TO no doubt.

Anyone got a link to this?

427CARL · CLINTON, ONT

I had to get my mothers Camry E-tested after she dies Nov12th

Gave car to my daughter Took to Exeter Toyota was there 18 minutes Car passed and there are no more readout of the test Just a "pass"

They only want cash Wait 'til our crack sniffing premier adds a 10 cents per litre plus tax TAX 10 cents x 4.54 = 45.54 plus 13.5 % HST = .46.114 cents

here you go Suckers!!

slim · DUNDAS, ONT

Why are some areas of the province exempt?

Heavy-duty diesel vehicles, such as trucks and buses, are subject to Drive Clean, throughout Ontario.

Light-duty vehicles and non-diesel heavy-duty vehicles are affected if they’re registered in an area that extends across southern Ontario from Windsor to Ottawa. The program boundaries are defined by postal codes and generally follow county and regional borders for its northern boundary. This highly populated area has a history of poor air quality due to its high concentration of vehicles and major transportation corridors. Almost 90 per cent of the province’s light-duty vehicles are registered there.

You can view a map of the program area program area (PDF) and you can use this search form to find out if your vehicle will require an emissions test. You can also call the Drive Clean contact centre at 1-888-758-2999 for assistance with any question about the program.

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It would cost them money to rip off the rest of the province

427CARL · CLINTON, ONT

Why are some areas of the province exempt? becasue we are "special" wanna use my address to register your 32 Ford ??? loll

BARRIE, ONTARIO

my 98 crv is having trouble passing , a while ago emiss light came on , found problem , waited , got parts fixed it . lt back on , same code , found another small problem , same system , fixed it , drive it 2 weeks , lt back on . another small problem same system , found it fixed it , another week , lt comes back on , my own shop an another shop cant figger it out , other then replace gas tank , all fuel lines an hoses an 2 other valves , vehicle runs great , every thing checks out ok , great on fuel . But here,s the tickler , since it cant pass with the light on , and we been trying to get it in while the lights off . we been driving our other larger suv more often , for every thing axeually . The funny part , the big suv burns easily 65 bucks a week on fuel , while the small one uses about 65 for two weeks .
so while were screwing around trying to be legal , were axeually burning twice the amounta fuel then we usually do . I,d like to say the jokes on the feds an the environment , but axeually fuel cost wise the jokes on me .
gonna wait till it warms up a bit , the cycle it an try it again . ..77.

atomsplitter · NEWCASTLE, ONT

If it's the vapour recovery system and you've checked/replaced everthing else try looking at the fill pipe for the tanks. They corrode where the seal/flex area is between it and the tank. I had a long talk with a mechanic from a dealership and he told me that it's an easy fix but they like to sell the other sensors and electronic bits first!
Yes, he was laughing when he told me this.....

BARRIE, ONTARIO

no . I smoke tested it from the engine side and thru the filler neck , turned off all the lights in the shop an used a bright trouble light we have , couldn,t see a thing .
I,m gonna have to get a temp plate and see if it is better when the temps warms up a bit next week . being a 98 it only has to have one or two of the ready monitors working . and being out in the cold seems to set it off . If it doesn,t go next week . I,m gonna cycle it , leave it in the shop running in gear on a hoist in the warm air for half an hour then , test it again .
This thing probably wont even be on the road two yrs from now when next e test comes around .
the problem I,m having is the light is coming back on before enuff k,s are on it to cycle the ready monitors . YAAAAAAA !!!!!!! .as soon as it gets out in the cold , blink , on comes the light an I mean like half way thru the 15 minute drive home .
So I,m gonna run it inside the nice warm shop till the ready monitors are ok , , then test it ..77.

RichyBugs · Member

Sister just had her E-test done on her '00 Grand Prix, there is a loophole that may work for some people. Right before going in to get your test, clear your codes, the "instructions" given by the government gets all the systems ready, you don't want that. So after you have cleared your codes, go for a e test, they will tell you that the car is not yet ready and that you should come tomorrow, drive a minimum of 30 km (drive less and they will send you home again), then go for your second test, if you car is still not "ready" it passes. Found that loophole in the text, yay for being in a Law program. My sister just did this and her car had a check engine light for the Evap system, didn't come back until about a week after the test and the system had "readied" itself.

Hope this helps some of you! If it works for many people we can give the government a nice big finger and continue driving cars that should pass anyways.

RichyBugs · Member

"Not ready" test result
If the Drive Clean test is not able to get the information from your vehicle’s on board computer, you will get a “not ready” result.

Before you get your vehicle re-tested, you’ll need to take your vehicle through a Drive Cycle.

Ask a qualified repair technician to tell you why your vehicle wasn’t ready.

If your vehicle is still not ready after two tests with no emissions problems identified, you will get a readiness conditional pass, if you meet specified conditions.

This is from the Gov website.

slim · DUNDAS, ONT

RichyBugs wrote:
Sister just had her E-test done on her '00 Grand Prix, there is a loophole that may work for some people. Right before going in to get your test, clear your codes, the "instructions" given by the government gets all the systems ready, you don't want that. So after you have cleared your codes, go for a e test, they will tell you that the car is not yet ready and that you should come tomorrow, drive a minimum of 30 km (drive less and they will send you home again), then go for your second test, if you car is still not "ready" it passes. Found that loophole in the text, yay for being in a Law program. My sister just did this and her car had a check engine light for the Evap system, didn't come back until about a week after the test and the system had "readied" itself.

Hope this helps some of you! If it works for many people we can give the government a nice big finger and continue driving cars that should pass anyways.

You end up paying the asshats for a test and a retest they will just love it if everyone did this . Remember they have already admitted to it being a blatant tax grab. No point in giving someone the finger that don't care if you live or die little own have a car to drive.

RichyBugs · Member

It's true, but if you have a CEL and need your car to pass, what's your choice right? It would be nice if they scrap it, but chances are it wont happen.

dualquadpete · BLACKSTOCK, ONT

My MPP [ P/C ] has a local paper article every week, this week he's saying that the "Drive Clean" is nothing but a cash Cow & the "Fibs" got caught making 19Mill. & now they want to give $5:00 back starting in Apr. so in the mean time their still "ripping" off Ontarians up till then!!! he's calling for it to be "scrapped" but their not listening!!!!!Still 'spouting" the enviro "CRAP" & that it is working?????

BARRIE, ONTARIO

Oh yaaa baby the crv has gone 25 k,s so far and no light on yet , if I can get to the shop in the morning with out the light coming on it should pass the test , then get a new sticker an I,m good for two yrs baby ..77.

GhostPost · ONTARIO

It has to go through all its parameters. Sit 8 hours start vehicle a/c on drive highway and city speeds...you know the drill.
Im gonna bet my cards that its the cat on your CR-V....

slim · DUNDAS, ONT

dualquadpete wrote:
My MPP [ P/C ] has a local paper article every week, this week he's saying that the "Drive Clean" is nothing but a cash Cow & the "Fibs" got caught making 19Mill. & now they want to give $5:00 back starting in Apr. so in the mean time their still "ripping" off Ontarians up till then!!! he's calling for it to be "scrapped" but their not listening!!!!!Still 'spouting" the enviro "CRAP" & that it is working?????

It is working ... they are ripping us off the NDP are liking their boots keeping them in power .... life is good

BARRIE, ONTARIO

nope 1457 evap codes and being a older one , a 98 it can still pass with just 0ne or two of the readiness monitors on , an no light . Tommorow is the day , if,n it can go to the shop with no lights on , then its getting tested . If this doesn,t work I,m gonna cycle it an run it in the shop in the warm air an leave it inside , then re test it .
It,s being affected by cold air , now that its warmed up a bit outside should be ok ..77.

hemi43 · ONTARIO

Got my truck E-tested this morning and passed no problems. What pissed me off is the inconvenience and another $40 of my money that the bastards will just waste. I was so pissed that as soon as I was done, I went to my MP's office (John O'Toole) to put a formal complaint in. I told him my vote hinged on getting rid of this program.

58Chev · ETOBICOKE, ONT

So far the best they say they will do is drop a whole $5.00 off the price.

-- Edited by 58Chev on Monday 13th of January 2014 01:35:25 PM

hemi43 · ONTARIO

58Chev wrote:
So far the best they say they will do is drop a whole $5.00 off the price.

-- Edited by 58Chev on Monday 13th of January 2014 01:35:25 PM

Yeah, starting in April. My B-day is in March. Besides, it's not so much the money, it's the bloody inconvenience. Another problem is that there isn't too many places that can do the 2 speed idle test anymore for 1995 and older vehicles. For me, there's only 1 in Bowmanville and the next closest is 20 minutes away in Oshawa. Bull$hit !!

fatchuk · ST MARYS, ONTARIO

hey 77..

I remember chasing one of those p1457 evap codes on a 97 crv about 3 years ago and we chased it for a couple days and eventually I replaced the canister and both valves, purge and shutoff If I remember correctly the problem occurs from people who always over fill the tank ..When the pump shuts off that's it, it's full people who constantly want that extra 27 cents to round it off are just filling the canister with fuel and over time it gets toasted..I also remember Honda civic with the same issue in those years and you could pretty much trace it back to overfilling the car to round it up at the pump.. ,I think your canister may be plugged/saturated...and if this is a vehicle that sits in the summer months and used mostly in the winter another thing I have found is I have to take the purge vales off and clean and test them on the bench as I have found those mud fly nests and spider nests in them as well and it just took some cleaning...Smokers work pretty good and if your smoker is not showing a leak, I only go looking if the pressure in my smoker tells me too and I have a little spray bottle with soapy water that I use as well..especially around that canister..That P1457 code can be a head scratcher as I have seen that code take out the ECM on some Hondas as well..I would pull, clean and bench test the valves front door and back door and check for a cracked Canister, or plugged collapsed canister hoses..

BARRIE, ONTARIO

Hey Chuck , I smoked it thru the canister , and put power to the valve to open and close it , seemed ok for that test then I crimped off the outlet hose and put smoke to it , passed .
It gets driven yr round , we,ve had it about two yrs , light never came on till about 2 weeks before I had to get it tested ha ha
Sad fact is , I,d just pay an eggstra fee out right , just too get the conditional pass . This thing wont be on the road in two yrs time . no leaks , runs great , doesn,t burn oil , great on gas , but by next e test I want something a bit newer an a bit nicer .
This thing is a bit gutless and kinda like driving a chevette .
the difference tween it an the grand cherokee is huge . The first thing u notice when u get in the big jeep is WOW I don't hear any road noise . ha ha .
I haven,t really worked to hard on the crv , got a temp sticker for , that,ll get me a reprieve till next weekend , might feel like fooling with it a bit more then ..77.

hemi43 · ONTARIO

Was driving today and got a call from an unknown number. I answer it (hands free of course ) and to my surprise it was John O'Toole calling me. I stopped in at his office last week to make a formal complaint about the tax grab called Drive-Clean. I told his my vote hinged on the party that would eliminate it. He claims that it's the PC's agenda to get rid of it, but we'll have to see if/when they get into power. Make your voices heard by complaining. They do hear us.

dualquadpete · BLACKSTOCK, ONT

Dan, i had a call from John today too!!! pretty well said the same thing to me. I replied to an e-mail that i got from P/C party looking for 'donations" I replied saying what you said, "my vote depends on getting rid of D/Clean" & YES we'll have to wait & see what happen "IF" election called?? P/c' could do what most parties say after getting elected "OH It's worse than we thought, & we can't eliminate the "CASH" source" Lets hope they don't say that "IF" they get in!!!!!

BARRIE, ONTARIO

Oh yea baby ..77. figgered out how to get at least 25 k,s on the crv and have the third key start , after sitting inside the heated shop for 2 hours and have the fuel level right mark , be the e test an yahoo baby , a 98 can pass legal like with 2 readiness monitors not ready no history of fault codes , an no check engine light on .
Man it took me three try,s to figger out how to drive it , get it to , the third key start at the right fuel level , and be warm . yee hawww its legal ha ha ha ..77.

fatchuk · ST MARYS, ONTARIO

Well for me as much as I hate the Drive clean issue..I also believe it has out grown it's purpose and now is just plain stuborness and the idiocy of the Liberal arrogancy..but my vote does not hinge on that issue..I want the lying, thieving, arrogant Liberals fired, they have shown total disrespect for us as voters and continue to do the very same thing with our money with-out any regard for the people of this province ..they contiue to move ahead with their crazy green plan wind-turbines and solar panel bull and double the cost of hydro, wind-turbines and solar panels will never produce more .001 percent of the hydro we need to-day or tomorrow.. but it will cost a ton of taxpayer cash that we will never get back and the Liberals plan to add a huge tax to ALL of Ontario to build a new subway for GTA.. by either raising the HST by 1% or adding 10cents a liter to fuel in ALL of Ontario, and then there is the PAN -SCAM rip-off again for the GTA elite at our expense, Wynne is just spending like a madman 400 million to the horse racing, and on and on everybody on here could probably add to my list ..and that is why I want them FIRED..out the fking door ..They have no respect for us or money or our wishes they will not listen to anybody if your not from some multicutural ethnic special interest group or the Gay and lesbian community again in the GTA area.. They could give a rats ass about anybody outside of that little world ..Those are the issues for me as well as several issues about the way they settled with the teachers, the Doctors, And the Insurance companys.. I don't know about a lot of you guys but if we don't stop this spending madness I will be freezing to death in the dark..cause I won't be able to pay my hydro bill, or insurance , or fuel to own anything but a Honda fit..while I hate the drive clean it is only one small very small reason I hate the liberal party..and my hydro bill came in the mail to-day for Dec..$635.82... but my biggest issue with everybody is all the whining on a forum..

so I say..SHUT THE **** UP AND GET OFF YOUR LAZY ASS AND VOTE AND QUIT ****ING WHINING...... you will not change a thing by whinning on some forum... disbelief hmm

427CARL · CLINTON, ONT

fatchuk wrote:
Well for me as much as I hate the Drive clean issue..I also believe it has out grown it's purpose and now is just plain stuborness and the idiocy of the Liberal arrogancy..but my vote does not hinge on that issue..I want the lying, thieving, arrogant Liberals fired, they have shown total disrespect for us as voters and continue to do the very same thing with our money with-out any regard for the people of this province ..they contiue to move ahead with their crazy green plan wind-turbines and solar panel bull and double the cost of hydro, wind-turbines and solar panels will never produce more .001 percent of the hydro we need to-day or tomorrow.. but it will cost a ton of taxpayer cash that we will never get back and the Liberals plan to add a huge tax to ALL of Ontario to build a new subway for GTA.. by either raising the HST by 1% or adding 10cents a liter to fuel in ALL of Ontario, and then there is the PAN -SCAM rip-off again for the GTA elite at our expense, Wynne is just spending like a madman 400 million to the horse racing, and on and on everybody on here could probably add to my list ..and that is why I want them FIRED..out the fking door ..They have no respect for us or money or our wishes they will not listen to anybody if your not from some multicutural ethnic special interest group or the Gay and lesbian community again in the GTA area.. They could give a rats ass about anybody outside of that little world ..Those are the issues for me as well as several issues about the way they settled with the teachers, the Doctors, And the Insurance companys.. I don't know about a lot of you guys but if we don't stop this spending madness I will be freezing to death in the dark..cause I won't be able to pay my hydro bill, or insurance , or fuel to own anything but a Honda fit..while I hate the drive clean it is only one small very small reason I hate the liberal party..and my hydro bill came in the mail to-day for Dec..$635.82... but my biggest issue with everybody is all the whining on a forum..

so I say..SHUT THE **** UP AND GET OFF YOUR LAZY ASS AND VOTE AND QUIT ****ING WHINING...... you will not change a thing by whinning on some forum...

Whining on a social media like this can help (sometimes) and its our right to bitch... but how do you OUTVOTE Toronto

fatchuk · ST MARYS, ONTARIO

Sorry Carl..No vote..no bitching rights..

dualquadpete · BLACKSTOCK, ONT

Your right there Carl. the "A" holes in the city [Toronto] keep voting them back in!!! Saw a street interview last week that the news did, the "majority" of "downtowners" said the Wynne Gov. was doing a "GREAT" job???? Must have their head up their A$$ or suffering from MENTAL ILLNESS!!!!

Bruce Rossiter · TORONTO, ONT

Let me start by stating that I live in Toronto and I do so by choice. I visit this web site to see how some people modify their cars and trucks and in some limited way, I try to offer some information for those who ask. The last thing I want to hear are comments from people I don't know referring to me as an ******* or someone suffering from mental illness just because of the area I choose to live in. Do you not think there may be some residents of your local communities who possibly might be voting for the political party some of you dislike? Check the election returns in your area and it just might surprise some of you that not all residents in your area think the same as you do.

I have no problem with you venting about your political views but don't assume that everyone voted against your wishes based on their residency and everyone from the Toronto area is not an *******.

workin class · FINCH, ONT

Most of Ottawa is full of *******s as well so Toronto has company.

workin class · FINCH, ONT

Just in case the Toronto holes need company