Project WTF -Rat Rod Coupe- The Build!

Cat in the Hat · BRANTFORD, ONT

RE: Project WTF -Rat Rod Coupe- The Build!

fastchevy · NORTH BAY, ONT

Looking great guys,,,cant wait to see the body sitting on it ...

fatstax · COBOURG, ONT

Grumpsbodyworks wrote:
Sherwood, Scott, Janice, Will, Andy.........Thanks

Wayne..........I already hooked Dave up with a column.....but thanks for the offer

Dan..............We talked about your generous offer last night and will see what happens by the time we get there....

Stax..............Thanks for telling us how you would build it. Show us your build and maybe we can all learn something from it

Dave had a HUGE CHUBBY last night as he is finally seeing his "Canadian Dream" being built. He was begining to wonder if I could weld at all

The drop is 3" to a 44 1/2 plateform for Daves body. All drop and kicks are gusseted by 3/16 plate. This is a simple frame that anybody

with skillsets could build. I tend to stay away from diminishing tube size or multiple angle cuts because if they are not done right

they become weak points. I will provide measurements as we get further in to motor mounts, tranny mounts, spring perches and trailing arms

as I go....no sense getting ahead of myself.

The frame is a basic frame I have built many times before and is easy to change to suite the body being used. I will provide costs of material and

labour for you to get an Idea what it SHOULD cost you if you build it yourself or have a shop build it for you.

Thanks for your support and following...........

i guess some memories are short, i did post pics in the thread about my rat when i built it, or i thought i did. one thing i did do when i made it was use quarter wall, i figured being so stripped down as it is i wanted some weight somewhere so i opted for heavier stuff

Dave Scott · ANCASTER, ONT

Thanks for the reply. That was a good price to pay to get that done.

I've helped Andrew with a couple of things, and no doubt will again in the future.

dave · TORONTO, ONT

Nice to see someone getting something done on their project. Good on you Glenn for helping Dave to do his build. One day I will have to drop by and see your shop and maybe learn something myself. Hopefully I will get back out in the garage soon to finally finish my pickup. Hopefully we'll see you guys at Pugsy's in the spring.

Dave

Ziggy · TRENTON, ONT

Very happy to see that the WTF project has now changed to the WTF build!!!

Have you started a grocery/wish list of stuff that you still need or might be interested in?? Never know who might have something kicking around that you may need/want or borrow to see how it might look like on your build?

Fordy Acres Car Farm · DORCHESTER, ONT

Very good idea Zig! ^^

Dave Scott · ANCASTER, ONT

I could maybe add a wish list to my signiature and cross stuff off as I get it.

fatchuk · ST MARYS, ONTARIO

That would be a good idea..I may even have some stuff in the barn or the shed I would be glad to make a donation if I have something you could use..I might be able to tell from your wish list.. Looking good Dave..

Dave Scott · ANCASTER, ONT

Thanks a million Chuck.

Cab is all packed and ready for tomorrow.

It's going to be a long night.....

hemikev · HAMILTON, ONT

1 step closer

janies dirty 37 · SOUTH RIVER, ONT

Moving along pretty fast. Good on ya.

MANCAVER · info@mancavestuff.ca

hey Dave do you need papers for your "ford"

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-other-1932-ford-W0QQAdIdZ559871740

Dave Scott · ANCASTER, ONT

MANCAVER wrote:
hey Dave do you need papers for your "ford"

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-other-1932-ford-W0QQAdIdZ559871740

Damn, I thought I was building a Chev, but I suppose I could build a Ford, lol.

34guy · MISSISSAUGA, ONT

Now I want to see Glen's list !!!

flatblack55delivery · PORT HOPE, ONT

I looked at your list Dave and I think I can help. I have several different lug nuts (6 I think),some glass (98Astro windshield, tree went thru it)the fuzzy dice(most of the dots still atached),wireing from a Maytag dryer,and an old garden hose .Let me know what you need. Ed

Dave Scott · ANCASTER, ONT

flatblack55delivery wrote:
I looked at your list Dave and I think I can help. I have several different lug nuts (6 I think),some glass (98Astro windshield, tree went thru it)the fuzzy dice(most of the dots still atached),wireing from a Maytag dryer,and an old garden hose .Let me know what you need. Ed

I'm interested in the fuzzy dice, got a picture?

flatblack55delivery · PORT HOPE, ONT

I'll see if the mice living in them would mind the flash. Ed

hemi43 · ONTARIO

flatblack55delivery wrote:
I looked at your list Dave and I think I can help. I have several different lug nuts (6 I think),some glass (98Astro windshield, tree went thru it)the fuzzy dice(most of the dots still atached),wireing from a Maytag dryer,and an old garden hose .Let me know what you need. Ed

HAHAHAHAHA !!

Ziggy · TRENTON, ONT

Took this from the Project WTF post you made on August 1st.

I suppose I'd better make a start on this then eh? lol

So, parts list... (please help me compile the list, with rough prices)

I'll put in some sort of order later

Body - yes
frame - no
wheels - no
rear axle and hubs - yes
glass - no
engine - yes
tranny - yes
carbs - no
starter - no
alternator - no
interior - no
seats - no
front end - no
steering rack - no
steering column - no
steering wheel - no
Exhaust - no
air intake - no
lights - no
rad - no
rad grill - no
fuel tank - no
door handles - no
roof lining - no
gauges - no
wiring and relays - no
seat belts - actually yes, lol
horn - no
dizzy - yes
water pump - no
fuel pump - no
brakes master cylinder - no
brakes - no
mirrors - no
suspension - no
ownership - no
gear shifter - yes
pedals - no
fluffy dice - no

What kind of seats?? buckets or a bench? If a bench, how wide?

Are you running that 350/TH250 combo that you got at the flea market? If so, does that 350 have the ring gear(flywheel)? 4 barrel intake? Looking for a Q-jet? Holley? Edelbrock?

Now as for the fuel tank. I have a plastic fuel cell. I'll measure it tomorrow and post the dimensions. It is a top fill. Yours if it works for you.

poncho62 · ADMINISTRATOR

I think I have the fuzzy dice around here somewhere.....If I come across them, I will mail them to you

Cat in the Hat · BRANTFORD, ONT

Only if they are PINK ! LMAO

Dave Scott · ANCASTER, ONT

Grumpsbodyworks wrote:
Only if they are PINK ! LMAO

We're not doing YOUR list yet

34guy · MISSISSAUGA, ONT

I meant to see Glen's list for the essential and needed stuff you need now!!!

Those pink dice you can alway's take out of your pick up when needed!!!

Ziggy · TRENTON, ONT

Measured that tank. Kinda have the feeling that it is a going to be no-go. 15"H 17"D 34"W. Works out to about 32 gallons.

Dave Scott · ANCASTER, ONT

Day 3

Well I can honestly say Glenn worked his azz off today

I'll add the pictures, he can add the tech stuff.

fatstax · COBOURG, ONT

hows that saying go, imitation is the best form of flattering or something? i see you pretty much built that frame the same way i did mine in the rat, but they are not indentical of course. i would imagine this is a pretty standard way of building a frame as im sure were not the first guys to do them this way.

Adslow65 · LINDSAY, ONT

Wow great progress... congrats on getting things underway! Thanks for the pics and updates, I have a feeling I will be learning a lot from your build (which in turn will help me with my '46 rat rod pickup) so I appreciate your post. Looks awesome so far can't wait for more!

PS - My wife loved the mugs!!! ;)

123pugsy · MARKHAM, ONT

Great to see the project moving forward.

I'll check the garage for items on your list.

flatblack55delivery · PORT HOPE, ONT

I already learned something,love the little posts the frame is resting on to get it off the floor and I am assuming close to actual ride height. Ed

Dave Scott · ANCASTER, ONT

flatblack55delivery wrote:
I already learned something,love the little posts the frame is resting on to get it off the floor and I am assuming close to actual ride height. Ed

Pretty much. The body will come up a little, and then maybe a bit more with the suspension, but will drop again when we throw the V8 on it

Dave Scott · ANCASTER, ONT

123pugsy wrote:
Great to see the project moving forward.

I'll check the garage for items on your list.

Thanks Pugs, much appreciated.

Dave Scott · ANCASTER, ONT

Ziggy wrote:
Measured that tank. Kinda have the feeling that it is a going to be no-go. 15"H 17"D 34"W. Works out to about 32 gallons.

I'll get some measurements tomorrow. I think Glenn is going to widen the rear section where it kicks down, so you never know

Bob T · BRANTFORD, ONT

Very nice

RacerRick · TORONTO, ONT

I dropped in there today to pick up the sheet metal brake, and got to see the frame. The frame is a real nice build and glenn works fast. I picked up a few tricks while I was there.

I kinda want to find a model A sedan and chop it down in to a coupe now. Or a 40 Ford pickup.

janies dirty 37 · SOUTH RIVER, ONT

Wow!! Great progress. Thanks for taking the time to post. Great step by step smile

Fordy Acres Car Farm · DORCHESTER, ONT

Build threads like this one, along with those of Invision and Pugsy, are going to be referred to over and over for years to come! Thanks for documenting it all with great detail to give us all a good look at what it really takes to take on such a big project!!!

slab · BRANT COUNTY, ONT

Jacob , Ben and I stopped in yesterday to say hi and check out the progress. Glen and Dave are working well together and make it look easy. I am of the same opinion as RacerRick in that I want to build a one of these now after seeing this project. LOL

fatstax · COBOURG, ONT

I tend to stay away from diminishing tube size or multiple angle cuts because if they are not done right

they become weak points. I will provide measurements as we get further in to motor mounts, tranny mounts, spring perches and trailing arms
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i missed that part of your post, i can understand for a basic frame getting into angles and tapering the rails can be tricky as i have done alot of metal fab like this over the years so i have a pretty good understanding of it. making changes like that can add alot of time to a project. the end result has to look good and be good. i see stuff come from china and taiwan where they weld up stuff and then apply bondo over it to make it look smooth

Cat in the Hat · BRANTFORD, ONT

Morning boys and girls

Thank you for the POSITIVE comments

The whole point of this frame build is to show a BASIC frame being built on a BUDGET

It basic but functional and strong and can be built with minimal tools and skills

Each one is similar but different for each car and ride hight

Yes ED I cut 1 in tubing to set ride hight. It allows me to set parts easily without adding more math

I will ad more a little later

Dave Scott · ANCASTER, ONT

Just as Glenn says....I'm watching him build this and I'm thinking it's not rocket science. There's no reason why we can't all do this with a bit of practice and the right tools.
I don't mean to take anything away from Glenn, he's building me a great frame, but we should'nt be scared of trying things ourselves and improving our own skill-sets.

will · WALKERTON, ONT

Dave, Some of us are just TOO old with TOO many aches and pains. I am just going to sit back and watch. Thank you guys for sharing.

fatstax · COBOURG, ONT

oh for sure, this is why we build these things. this project is your vision of the car you want, not what gm or ford or dodge decides for you. you are fortunate to have someone with experience giving you some guidance, i wouldnt have thought to build my own vehicles 20 years ago, i wish i had done these things alot earlier in life and had a helping hand along the way. its almost like the people who hate on the whole rat rod genre are the ones who dont like innovation or creativity. its easier to hate and critisize what they dont understand,i think the rapper chamillionaire summed it up with, they see me rollin, they be hatin! lol

hemi43 · ONTARIO

Dave Scott wrote:

we should'nt be scared of trying things ourselves and improving our own skill-sets.

Looking forward to the automatic transmission rebuild thread in a couple of weeks !!

Frame looks good and beefy, and it's nice to see some pics of Grumps without his party hat on. Hopefully you'll be driving that car East of Toronto this summer.

-- Edited by hemi43 on Sunday 19th of January 2014 11:33:03 AM

Fast Elvis · LONDON, ONTARIO

Dave Scott wrote:
I could maybe add a wish list to my signiature and cross stuff off as I get it.

Hey Dave....like Ziggy had mentioned before about a "wish list"of parts........let me be one of the first brothers to throw something in the pot....lol..... I have a very nice set of "vintage looking" gauges for your hot rod.......there in perfect condition and will look great in this project. It'll give me a excuse to drop by Glenn's....lol.....hope you like them.

123pugsy · MARKHAM, ONT

I've got an alternator for you.

Newagerod · OSHAWA, ONT

Are you going to cut the trunk open?

Dave Scott · ANCASTER, ONT

Fast Elvis wrote:
Dave Scott wrote:
I could maybe add a wish list to my signiature and cross stuff off as I get it.
Hey Dave....like Ziggy had mentioned before about a "wish list"of parts........let me be one of the first brothers to throw something in the pot....lol..... I have a very nice set of "vintage looking" gauges for your hot rod.......there in perfect condition and will look great in this project. It'll give me a excuse to drop by Glenn's....lol.....hope you like them.

Well that sounds absolutely amazing!

Thanks you so much. I'm sure Glenn will agree, you guys are welcome round any time.

Dave Scott · ANCASTER, ONT

123pugsy wrote:
I've got an alternator for you.

WOW!, thank you.

I can't get over the generosity of the good folk on here.

I'm going to have a helluva thank you list by the end of this build.

Dave Scott · ANCASTER, ONT

Newagerod wrote:
Are you going to cut the trunk open?

I don't think so. There won't be any space for anything so may as well keep it simple.