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BADEN, ONT

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My daughter just rolled her '94 Corolla on it's side. No major damage aside from a rippled front fender, and some deep scratches.

I haven't gone and looked at the car yet...but she said it fired up right away, after they got it on all fours, it ran for a few seconds then shut off. Now it won't fire up again.

 

Is there an inertia switch on it? Or a relay? Would it reset by disconnecting the battery?  I can't find my way up there until this weekend. If there's a simple fix, I can walk her through it, she's pretty good at it. She just replaced her own slave cylinder a couple weeks ago.

 

Any insight?



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I would try rolling it on it's other side to see if that gets rid of the problem.

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hemi43 wrote:

I would try rolling it on it's other side to see if that gets rid of the problem.


 That's too much work, she's not a big girl.aww



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Should be a roll over switch on the car,to shut the fuel system down in case of a rollover

should tell you where it is and how to reset it in the owners manual



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I'll get her to check in the manual, and see if she can find something. But if I recall correctly, the manual is pretty basic, not a whole lot of helpful info, aside from recommended maintenance, and how to adjust the radio.

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I believe most of the rollover switches are under the drivers side kick panel



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No cut off switch on a 94 . here,s some info that might help

 

 'Mo Lurch' replied 2 years ago.

 

 

 

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The Fuel Pump Relay is located in the Fuse / Relay Panel & is Relay "C" in Diagram

Fuse 6 in diagram powers the Relay
Typically if the Fuel Pump does not work, it is the Pump, ECM, Fuse or Relay

 

 

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so i found the relays but they are all good what about the fuses for the e c m wherre would i find it once again i dont have a diagram youd think they would come with the car please respond
 
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so i found the relays but they are all good what about the fuses for the e c m wherre would i find it once again i dont have a diagram youd think they would come with the car please respond

 

I have supplied the info you originally requested

There are a number of components that can cause a NO START
Fuses are just 1 part
Fuel Pressure
Spark
Compression
Computer
Ignition Switch
Sensors
etc.


here is diagram for Fuel Pump

 

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Could be something got shook loose when it rolled ?  



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PM Lighspeed Mike. He's a Toyota Guru, and should know exactly what's wrong.
The only thing I know about Toyotas, is that they use good chrome on their grille emblems.

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My best guess off the top of my head is that the airflow meter in the airbox is stuck. The fuel pump( circuit opening relay) is controlled by it. If the flapper door doesn't move it won't turn on the relay.
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Thanks Slim, I'll get her to check the relay, and disconnect the battery.

Mike, I hope she can understand how to check the flapper, she doesn't have many tools at her disposal.

The soonest I can get there to look at it, is this weekend.

I'll let you guys know how she manages, it's not like she's stranded without transportation.


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Where is she located?

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She's in Kitchener, the car is at her boyfriend's North of Guelph. It's not an emergency, it can wait.
It's about an hours drive for me. I just want to make sure I bring the proper tools, and not half a tool box, I probably won't need.

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if the flap in the airflow sensor is stuck a good rap with something might knock it free.  i dont see how much else could have been affected too much from the car simply being on its side. 



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Any chance all the fuel leaked out while the car was on its side? Really reaching here but stranger things have happened.

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Check the flux capacitor and the grapple grommet ......

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if all else fails bring matches could not help myself

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Surprised there is no fuel cut-off switch because that's how it is supposed to work .......

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JohnnyBgood wrote:

Check the flux capacitor and the grapple grommet ......


 Best of my knowledge Flux Capacitors were discontinued in the 80's.Because they were prone to malfunction. Although the Flux itself has shown somewhat promising results, in some welding applications.



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shouldn't of had a coROLLa in the first place.



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Santos L Halper wrote:

Any chance all the fuel leaked out while the car was on its side? Really reaching here but stranger things have happened.


 Do you know my daughter?

I've seldom seen that car with more than 1/4 tank of gas.

Soooo that is quite likely, lol.



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lmao...... more then likely.



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she must have a high paying job show off 1/4 tank of methanol tainted fuel.hope you find problem and cheap to fix.

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I'd like to go check tomorrow, but with the weather forecast, neither her or I will be going.
I'm hoping this is THE final storm, you know the last one before the nice weather comes.

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Santos L Halper wrote:

Any chance all the fuel leaked out while the car was on its side? Really reaching here but stranger things have happened.


Gazoo wrote: Do you know my daughter?

I've seldom seen that car with more than 1/4 tank of gas.

Soooo that is quite likely, lol.


 

I really tossed out the "did all the gas leak out" comment as a very unlikely possibility but if your daughter really does only carry 1/4 tank at a time (mostly), my "theory" becomes slightly more of a possibility. 

I've had a gas tank rust out around the sending unit (the top of the tank).  Put too much fuel in and the gas would slosh out the top of the tank and stink.  The solution (before actually replacing the tank) was to never fill the tank more than half.  That way the fuel wasn't high enough in the tank to slosh out and the smell was gone.  If your daughters tank actually does have a leak near the top, but she never filled it more than halfway, she may not even know she has a leak.  Certainly wouldn't be the first 20 year old car to have a gas tank rust out.  Combine that with the car laying on its side for 1/2 hr or more (I have no idea who long it really was on its side), the gas could have easily leaked out.  If she flopped it on its side in a ditch or on grass, the leaked fuel might not be obvious, like it would be if she flopped it on pavement.

The car flops, gas leaks out, car fires up on the fuel remaining in the lines (not sure if that is even possible if the car is fuel injected as I can't see the pump supplying enough pressure if the tank itself is empty, but ........), car dies.  In all honesty, VERY unlikely but, as I said earlier, "stranger things have happened".

Hope whatever it is ends up being cheap, it sure doesn't sound (to me) like it's anything serious.

 



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Sooo....I got the car towed to my place, since it has gas in it, and the fuel pump is running.

I pulled the air intake, and found the throttle body was just saturated with oil, gravity sucks. It also has two cylinders with the plugs nicely oiled up.

It turned over nice and sputtered a few times, trying to start.

I'll be cleaning the throttle body etc...from oil tomorrow. Weather permitting, since I have it sitting outside.

Any other things I might need to look into, that I may have overlooked?

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Roll overs are not fun,,hope she is ok,,every time I get involved in a rollover ,generally around 7am I get hurt....

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