WENT TO GET THE 20LB PROPANE TANK FILLED FOR THE BBQ AND NOW ITS $30.00.
SO I'm GOING BACK TO GOOD OLD WOOD/CHARCOAL/BRICKETTES.
SINCE I AM SURROUNDED BY TREES I'M LOOKING FOR A GOOD DESIGN FOR A HOMEMADE WOODFIRED GRILL. SOMETHING THAT WILL SIT ON THE PORCH AND NOT BE A FIRE HAZARD.
ANYBODY HAVE A GOOD DESIGN?
DENNIS
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WENT TO GET THE 20LB PROPANE TANK FILLED FOR THE BBQ AND NOW ITS $30.00.
SO I'm GOING BACK TO GOOD OLD WOOD/CHARCOAL/BRICKETTES.
SINCE I AM SURROUNDED BY TREES I'M LOOKING FOR A GOOD DESIGN FOR A HOMEMADE WOODFIRED GRILL. SOMETHING THAT WILL SIT ON THE PORCH AND NOT BE A FIRE HAZARD.
ANYBODY HAVE A GOOD DESIGN?
DENNIS
I think you had better calculate how much you'll have to spend on charcoal to equal the amount of heat energy output a 20LB propane tank has.
i just had the 100 lbs bottle filled for the shop and i asked how much since propane has gone up. he said if i had had it fill in jan it would have been $200 but the prices have come down and it would be $100. i also asked about natural gas and he said they just had 40% added to their cost and expect 2 more 40% increases. he said the gov't was shooting for all 3 heating liquids to cost the same to heat a house soon. oil,natural gas and propane, and electric will be the cheapest for initial outlay.
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Yep food tastes soooooooooooo much better grilled or smoked. I used about a face cord of cherry wood in mine last year. Can't wait to get it out again.
Yes there will be another BBQ at my place this year.
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you know what sacotu, upon reading that, "he said the gov't was shooting for all 3 heating liquids to cost the same to heat a house soon. oil,natural gas and propane, and electric will be the cheapest for initial outlay."
-tax the hell out of the gas/fluid heat to make hydro competitive or maybe cheaper to get people using the hydro to help offset the ridiculous prices they are paying for the solar and wind movement.
-a big farmer around here, milks 400plus, got a huge grant to set up a big generator to run off the methane from his liquid manure storage at the .80kw price range. now he is growing hundreds of acres of corn to feed the generator also at a tidy profit. you can't blame him, the idiots in toronto left the door open. he tells me there is suppose to be another couple of big guys down in western ontario doing the same.
-were screwed. i wonder if the milk cheque and the hydro cheque are direct deposit or does he get to make the deposit himself with a huge grin. good for him he's a good guy.
History has proven that when one product jumps in price the rest will soon follow.
How many forms of heating have been switched over the past 50 years, some switched two to three times because it was cheaper. But cheaper only lasts for awhile, then up the cost of that product goes.
History has shown that the only one reasonably immune to this BS is the person with a woodlot that is kept sustainable.
It's just a game.
Have to disagree with that Harry, a great number of houses and shops with woodlots from here north are heated by wood, maybe the southern portion of Ontario has different regulations.
Lots of firewood dealers that sell 3-500 face cords per year are all busy with regular customers.
I'm not refering to subdivision houses that are close together. You won't find many woodstoves there.
Having it hooked into the house natural gas is the answer. Even at a 40% increase, you would probably use 50 cents worth of gas to cook a meal for a family. You can add wood/smoke if you really want the carcinogens. And grilled veggies are awesome too, not just meat.
We bought a half coal, have propane last year from tsc.
We hardly used the propane side.
The food is way more flavourful, cooked nicer, and smells a million times better when cooking.
For our get togethers at the inlaws in the summer, we'll burn down hardwood branches in a steel drum to embers,
then we transfer those to the large cooker/ bbq my father inlaw had built.
The coals are 2 feet away from the meat you cook ( we do chicken ) and it takes about 5 hrs or so.
The best chicken you'll eat, and its a nice afternoon when the sun is shining, a few beers, and memories!
I think those outdoor furnaces are a way to circumvent the insurance issue
Getting the nod for outdoor wood furnace is really difficult now.If you live in a very rural area with no close neighbours its easier. But if you live "in town" where you can see your neighbours house, Probably wont allow you to have one.
Ya the ins thing on woodstoves is interesting in my area. They can be very restrictive. Some outright refuse to cover older woodstoves,some make the requirements very expensive. I get offered lots of them really cheap and they are not very expensive at auctions around here except really nice old ornate ones. I have even bought a stove off a customer who said the ins co.insisted the wood stove be completely removed even if not hooked to a chimney as it might be used in an emergency. It hs opened up a nice part of my restoration business as I can convert some of them to electric so greatgrannies stove is still useful. Some thing else I learned is the local scrap dealer won't woodstoves if they still have the fire brick in them because it evidently can sometimes set off the radiation detectors used to monitor Port Hope area loads where they sell there scrap. Ed
You will get cheaper insurance with an outdoor stove,,,, BUT,,,,,,,,,,,,, you'll also burn at least 1/3 - 1/2 more wood. ( Not counting the installation and purchase cost.)
As Janice posted, in some areas they have been banned due to neighbours complaining about the smoke drifting across they're yards. This is frequent , especially in low lying areas.
Most insurance companies will pass a woodstove, but again you'll have to jump through many hoops to get it approved.
