Well said Chris. My son, also named Chris, got his first street rod last summer a 74' Omega, the bastard son of the Nova, and decided on more power. We had a long discussion about what to do. A 350 chev. roller race motor that's sitting in the corner of the garage or keep the Rocket motor and develop HP on our own. He made me proud when he decided to keep the Olds motor and not follow the crowd. It's almost done, a few powder coated parts and it goes back in.
Well spoken Chris 58-just build what you want with what you can afford-as long as its safe.I go on some of the gasser sights and find them to be very open minded and encouraging and helpful. Those guys will put any engine in any car-no questions asked. Very interesting to see some of the combinations they come up with.
I like the tried-and-true 350, don't get me wrong, but I also like "different". I'm fortunate to be able to play this hobby the way I like...now.
Nine years ago I built a real nice butternut yellow 68 Chevelle. Just a real nice-no fuss-car. No splash. Just a driver. I kept the in-line 250 six in it and did the split manifold headers, aluminum intake, Holley 4 barrel, 700R to it. It was different. Whenever I talked about the car, I was always asked..."350? Big block?". They all turned their noses when I told them about my fire-breathing 6-banger. When I tried to sell it everyone wanted a V8 or wanted me to sell it without the 6. After no takers, I put a 350 in it and eventually sold it. I'm not sure what that tells us, but it tells me..."different is good"...but so is a 350 SBC!!! Chris
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I sold a good 360-727 last year because I didn't have any use for it at the time. If I still had it,I would seriously consider using it in my 55Ford project-now that's different!
Being a Ford guy I don't like seeing sbc's in Fords but who cares what I like, it doesn't matter . Build what you like with what you got.
I'm not fond of the term Rat Rod, to me a Rad Rod is a cobbled up piece of junk
A quality built ride is a Hot Rod no matter what it looks like or what parts are used to build it. Cat in the Hat, I would consider what you're building a Hot Rod, the quality of the build is obvious, my hat of to you sir and keep posting pics
I,m with Chris. Build YOUR CAR to YOUR tastes and pocketbook. As long as your happy thats all that matters, doesn,t really matter if its got shiny paint or not.
So I'm over on the HAMB , checking out the latest threads .......some guy is building up a '47 Chrysler 4-door ......DIFFERENT , right ? The hood is about 12 feet long and the back end is very abbreviated .......I'm thinkin' , maybe a unique low rider , or whatever .
Now I'm reading about his choice of engines ........you guessed it , a $%@&^% small block Chevy .....in a CHRYSLER !! NOT a 318 or a 340 or a 383 or a 440 , nope . Are rodders going brain dead ? What is happening to individual thinking ? I'm waiting to see a guy finding a vintage Duesenburg and , duh , dropping in a sbc .
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I don't know, for me my 1949 dodge's appeal is the flathead, and when I hop it up, it'll be a flathead hopped up.
Each to his own, I don't give a crap what people do. One day i'll slap my 2004 BMW v8 in something, was gonna put it in my 62 olds when I had it... :)
SBC is sort of the go-to, you don't have to think, everyone has done the hard stuff already.
You can't beat a small block for reliability, performance, Easy to find any performance stuff for, they fit anything, there are plenty of trans applications for them, they are neat and tidy, you can find and buy perfomamce parts anywhere, they are tested and proven indestructable..So why not.. I think it's a no brainer, I used to be a nail-head freak but I usually had more money in the drive train than anybody else and those good old small block Chebys dressed up looked and ran just as pretty It's a hobby for most of us, for some it's a money pit ..I would put a small block in anything I wanted reliability, milage, and trany options, and then drive it like I stole it..I will take a small block over anything ..Thank-you..They fit my budget and I was never let down with one..my second choice would be a flathead but they cost ten times as much for half the reliability to get in and drive to .B.C. with no drivability issues..I will take the SBC anyday in my ride ..for my budget ..for me It is about the budget I can no longer afford to put 5-grand or better into an engine ..I am a working poor class hobbyist and as much as I love the hobby I do have some other things I would spend the bigger dollars on ..My house, does not depreciate like anything you put into a car/rod..they are great,I love them but they are a money pit and decline in value no matter what engine is in them..If it weren't for the good old Chevy Small block there wouldn't be hot-rods.. just old cars..
So I'm over on the HAMB , checking out the latest threads .......some guy is building up a '47 Chrysler 4-door ......DIFFERENT , right ? The hood is about 12 feet long and the back end is very abbreviated .......I'm thinkin' , maybe a unique low rider , or whatever .
Now I'm reading about his choice of engines ........you guessed it , a $%@&^% small block Chevy .....in a CHRYSLER !! NOT a 318 or a 340 or a 383 or a 440 , nope . Are rodders going brain dead ? What is happening to individual thinking ? I'm waiting to see a guy finding a vintage Duesenburg and , duh , dropping in a sbc .
-- Edited by teejay99 on Saturday 19th of April 2014 08:17:57 PM
Hmm, a Chrysler engine in a Chrysler product, pretty sure there's a company in Detroit, that's done that several million times, wouldn't call that very original thinking myself.
So I'm over on the HAMB , checking out the latest threads .......some guy is building up a '47 Chrysler 4-door ......DIFFERENT , right ? The hood is about 12 feet long and the back end is very abbreviated .......I'm thinkin' , maybe a unique low rider , or whatever .
Now I'm reading about his choice of engines ........you guessed it , a $%@&^% small block Chevy .....in a CHRYSLER !! NOT a 318 or a 340 or a 383 or a 440 , nope . Are rodders going brain dead ? What is happening to individual thinking ? I'm waiting to see a guy finding a vintage Duesenburg and , duh , dropping in a sbc .
-- Edited by teejay99 on Saturday 19th of April 2014 08:17:57 PM
Hmm, a Chrysler engine in a Chrysler product, pretty sure there's a company in Detroit, that's done that several million times, wouldn't call that very original thinking myself.
What a novel idea, a Chrysler engine in a Chrysler Hot Rod. Really ,,,, the things people come up with, thats a hoot.
To me it's kind of like when you were a kid with a bike and your friend took it for a spin, came back, got off and said " your seat is too low/high for me" or "your handlebars are too forward/back for me".... I just told them "That's too bad, it's MY bike"!
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There is a tremendous need for certain "Rodders" to practice "safe rodding investment". 32 Ford, 34 Ford, 69 Camaro and 70 Chevelle. Yes those have become the icons of the hobby, but they are "Safe Investments" for fragile egos. A Safe Invested Rodder" can snear at other non-icon rods yet can he risk his ego with a non-icon rod? How can you criticize an icon rod? It's the same as 40,000 other icon rods. Oh, wait it is the same as 40,000 others. Although an icon rod it's not as creative as a 440 powered 47 Chrysler 4 door, it's a safe investment. If "Safe Investment Rodder" decides that he'd rather take up tennis he should be able to sell his safe investment rod. If he keeps it and parks it (ever heard of somebody parking their rod and not driving it?) then his peeps can come over and drool over his safe investment. I don't think I would enjoy going to somebody's house to look at their collection of stock certificates or a bank book. I think I would rather collect bugs on the front end of my T Bucket, or my 66 Oldsmobile powered '66 F85 4 door.
I know 2 guys that had non-icon rods and got rid of them because they felt they were ridiculed by owners of icon rods. One now has a SBC powered F-1, the other parked his Dodge 4 dr., has not driven it in 15 years, won't drive it and won't sell it.
Just curious about this next observation; why are ALL Chevelles and Camaros, in Ontario, SS cars? Really? No Malibus or 300s? EVERY Mopar is not a Road Runner, GTX or Super Bee. Every Mustang is not a Mach 1. Just wonderin'.
Just sittin' back & observin',
the Kid
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Never gave a dang what other's thought or liked about my stuff or not. Don't judge other's rides either. I guess are you a rodder or are you trying to be popular. I never was nor ever will be so I just do what I like. Oh I still have an explosion button but you'd have to really be in stupid gear to find it.
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I think its odd to build certain cars with a non-matching drive line, especially stuff like a Shelby Cobra Kit with a Hemi or an old Buick with a 413 Chryco. Saying that, that is the root of how hot rodding began. I don't think that all builds cost similar. For instance, 340 mopars go for more than SBC's right off the hop and parts are not as plentiful. Not sure about crate vs crate pricing as I've never compared
I'd be the guy to put an ls small block in a cobra. Id do it to be different and make the purists cringe. Can you imagine going to a cobra show and popping the hood and bam! Chev powered lol
it's , uh , EXACTLY what ol' Shel did when he invented the cobra in the first place .. that cobra ain't no ford - that's a fact
IF I ever have the scratch to do it I'd love to score a factory five cobra daytona coupe
small block , big block ..?
no , I'm smarter than that....
2.2 dodge four banger .. one of the 16 valve twin cam versions found in the daytona and sprit R/T's
... heh heh the real early ones said Shelby on the fenders .. AND the valve covers well one valve cover but they're reversable so two Shelby valve covers would work
hell they're only 12-15 hun apiece for the valve covers lol
225 hp stock is easily doubled or better
and just imagine the weight bias with a colarado pick up truck trans bolted up to it (trans can be made to fit 2.2 dodge )
.. just one of many cars running in circles inside my head that really needs badly to escape to the outside world
At least no stupid flucker has japped crapped our real cars yet.
and 302s are cheap to, got 14 clevelands if someone wants one....(was supposed to be a lifetime supply but too many now)
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I'd really like to build a Shelby clone (Factory Five) and put a 2JZ-GTE in it. Cranking 900HP out of one is easy too. That will make the purists cringe and cry when they can't keep up.
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I'd really like to build a Shelby clone (Factory Five) and put a 2JZ-GTE in it. Cranking 900HP out of one is easy too. That will make the purists cringe and cry when they can't keep up.
I'd really like to build a Shelby clone (Factory Five) and put a 2JZ-GTE in it. Cranking 900HP out of one is easy too. That will make the purists cringe and cry when they can't keep up.
900 HP ………………….
Yep, stock bottom ends will handle 1200HP. Bigger turbos, injectors aftermarket FI controller and your almost there.
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