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OSHAWA, ONT

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Anyone know of a radiator shop in Oshawa area that will do a pressure check?

I know of the Rad Stop but not sure hes doing any work anymore.

I had a leak in the filler tube I solder up, want to make sure there are no others that will bite me once I reinstall it.



-- Edited by Keeper on Sunday 20th of April 2014 07:51:14 PM

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http://www.princessauto.com/pal/en/Engine-And-Transmission/Radiator-Pressure-Tester-Kit/8503039.p



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**** I did not even think of that...

Thanks.

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It's a nice tool to have.

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hemi43 wrote:

http://www.princessauto.com/pal/en/Engine-And-Transmission/Radiator-Pressure-Tester-Kit/8503039.p


Sadly though....  cry

Radiator Pressure Tester Kit

 

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They have them in stock, but may be under a different number.

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Thanks for the informative post



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Also of note on these testers is the fact that they are great purging tools for those later model engines that always seem to have that troublesome air bleeding issue. I know the LT1 on my Buick Roadmaster was a bear to bleed after changing water pumps, the pressure tester helps to push the antifreeze to these dry spots, also used them lots in farm tractor applications where the heater core was in the top of the tractor cab, we would install block heaters as all of the European built New Holland equipment never had a block heater option on the line ( go figure?) as we would always have a bitch of a time getting full flow on the cooling system afterward, snap a little pressure on the line,crack the factory bleeder high in the cab and go for coffee break and presto..all was good!

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So they sell the pump, no kit and its $99. Then you have to find the adapters to plug the rad holes.

I will see if they are available anywhere else.

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A friend bought this kit. Seemed pretty good. Too bad the shipping is a killer.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Auto-Cooling-System-Radiator-Color-Cap-Pressure-Tester-Kit-Pump-Gauge-Adapters-/171304991517?pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&hash=item27e292bb1d&_uhb=1



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I started looking around, ebay has a few, amazon.ca had some better deals.

I will probably order one. I was hoping to test it prior to reinstalling it as I would rather fix/test it BEFORE its back in the car.



-- Edited by Keeper on Monday 21st of April 2014 09:30:06 PM

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Keeper wrote:

I started looking around, ebay has a few, amazon.ca had some better deals.

I will probably order one. I was hoping to test it prior to reinstalling it as I would rather fix/test it BEFORE its back in the car.



-- Edited by Keeper on Monday 21st of April 2014 09:30:06 PM


 I have a tester you can borrow. It's the type that fits onto the filler neck, where the rad cap screws onto.



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I've got one here in Newcastle. If you would care to bring it here we can test it.

 



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hemi43 wrote:

A friend bought this kit. Seemed pretty good. Too bad the shipping is a killer.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Auto-Cooling-System-Radiator-Color-Cap-Pressure-Tester-Kit-Pump-Gauge-Adapters-/171304991517?pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&hash=item27e292bb1d&_uhb=1


 Free shipping in the lower 48 states if you use the U.S. Address box on Witmer Rd it is only 5 mins from the Lewiston border. But don't go over on long weekends, the delay is awful.



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"I've got one here in Newcastle. If you would care to bring it here we can test it."

 

Beware Brian of going to Newcastle. They will suck out your mind and ply you with beer to get what they want!

 

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I've heard you can use an inner tube from a tire. Cut the tube, hose clamp the tube ends over your rad hose fittings, then pump air into the rad through the tire valve on the tube.



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Ha thats a good idea. I was just planning on going to Lowes and picking up some plumber plugs.



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Ever seen an bike inner tube , that is not inside a tire, pumped up  to 16psi?

 

Make sure you video it if you try that method.



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DB Cooper wrote:

I've heard you can use an inner tube from a tire. Cut the tube, hose clamp the tube ends over your rad hose fittings, then pump air into the rad through the tire valve on the tube.


 I have done that just use bicycle tube not to much pressure. biggest draw back was finding something to submerge rad in to find leak {bubbles}it worked for me for years.your biggest problem may be finding tube with big enough diameter.been a long while but I used balloon tire tubes I know thats a while ago but still in this century.



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DaveM wrote:

Ever seen an bike inner tube , that is not inside a tire, pumped up  to 16psi?

 

Make sure you video it if you try that method.


 believe it or not it does not require a lot of pressure.your right they do get pretty distorted if pressure to high but works just makes you go holy s,.t



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Rad has to hold at least 15psi and should be tested above the cap rating.  If using an 18 lb cap, I test at 20.



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DaveM wrote:

Ever seen an bike inner tube , that is not inside a tire, pumped up  to 16psi?


  

 

I don't remember if I've ever used this method before, but I think a person could add just enough air to inflate the inner tube, wrap the tube with a layer or two (or three or four) of duct tape to prevent ballooning, then bring the pressure up.

 

As far as finding a tank large enough to accept a rad, what about reversing and just putting water in the rad then pressurizing it.  Instead of looking for air bubbles, you'd be looking for the drip/wet spot (or maybe bubbles if you're using soapy water).

 

 

 

I have capped one end of a heater core then cobbled up something that allowed me to install an air tool fitting on the other end.  Added pressure using my compressor and dropped the core in a large bucket.  Spotted the leak instantly.  I don't know why you couldn't do the same thing to a rad (without using an inner tube) and filling the rad with water before pressurizing it.



 



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Plumbers plug would be the cheapest if you don't have a lot of stuff kicking around. Tube may work on a heater core  for a test 5/8 dia but I cant see trying it for a 1 1/2" hole 



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DB Cooper wrote:
DaveM wrote:

Ever seen an bike inner tube , that is not inside a tire, pumped up  to 16psi?


  

 

I don't remember if I've ever used this method before, but I think a person could add just enough air to inflate the inner tube, wrap the tube with a layer or two (or three or four) of duct tape to prevent ballooning, then bring the pressure up.

 

As far as finding a tank large enough to accept a rad, what about reversing and just putting water in the rad then pressurizing it.  Instead of looking for air bubbles, you'd be looking for the drip/wet spot (or maybe bubbles if you're using soapy water).

 

 

 

I have capped one end of a heater core then cobbled up something that allowed me to install an air tool fitting on the other end.  Added pressure using my compressor and dropped the core in a large bucket.  Spotted the leak instantly.  I don't know why you couldn't do the same thing to a rad (without using an inner tube) and filling the rad with water before pressurizing it.


the problem I found trying with water is that if a small leak that filling rad that if any water spilled on core it self that it it was hard to spot wet spot where as with air even small leak would show up.even with 10 15 lbs.that is what worked for me over the years.fixed at least 20 rads on race and street cars over last 1/2 century.not saying as good as or quick as rad shop but I worked with I had on hand.I have epoxied 4 alum rads but now have pressure tester.I used to use use bicycle pump in first 1/2 of the century.that being said I would never put rad back in with out testing he is right in doing it no matter what method he uses.laundry tub is what I used to put rad in I dont even think that most remember them LOL.I dont think rad shop would charge much to do if for peace of mind without tools on hand I would let rad shop do it the problem with if they find a leak they will want to recore rather than risk customer coming back with new leak if old school they they may do it but they are a dieing breed. today throw away replace not repair is the norm.hope it works out for him
 



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If the rad is for the car in your avatar, can't you just rest the rad in place, hook up the hoses and test it right on the car? Doesn't look like there's too much in the way when it's what appears to be a rad in a T-bucket.

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First off, thanks for all the offers to use testers.

 

@DB Cooper - I had removed the rad, since I knew there was a leak in the filler tube.  So I wanted to test it prior to reinstalling.



I did find a solution and here is what I did:

Went to Lowes and bought a couple 1 1/2 plumper "Test plugs"

http://www.lowes.ca/pex-crimp-fittings/oatey-33401-2-in-dia-brass-pex-mechanical-plug-crimp-fitting_8779226.html

That was the closest size they had to my fill tunes on the radiator.  One I had to turn down a touch using a drill and sander, the second was a touch small, so a couple of rubber bands made it fit just right.

Once I installed them I filled the rad with water, installed the rad cap.  I wanted to see if the plugs would hold so i gave it a shot with the air compressor through the over flow fitting.  As soon as I did that, I found my leak as it started spitting water out of where I thought it was leaking.

I attempted to just heat that pipe to get it to reseal, but no luck so I had to heat it up enough to pull the filler tube completely.

Tomorrow I will clean it all up and re-solder the filler tube back in and test once again.

You do not need a tank if the rad is full, you will see where it is spitting water from.  If all else fails, use the bathtub when the other half is not home....lol

 

 



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Oh yeah...."pro" tip.

Watch where your torch is pointing, once you start to smell flesh......its too late.

Man my finger hurts!

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So I got it all fixed up and tested. What a royal PITA. I can see why these shops charged so much to test/repair rads.

Solder up a joint, another starts leaking, round and round I went. But I finally got it fixed.

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