CHINESE PARTS

saefifty · PORT PERRY, ONT

CHINESE PARTS

poncho62 · ADMINISTRATOR

I work part time delivering for the local NAPA,,,,You would be amazed how much of the stuff is made in China now...even a lot of the top line stuff

fatchuk · ST MARYS, ONTARIO

I agree Ponch..I am a retailer and I know ..but really the quality is pretty damn good..and getting better all the time as more and more of it made there ..sucks but we will never turn this ship around so you may as well get over it...I use a lot of dealer OEM parts ..guess where they are made...China, Brazil, mehico, and many places I can't spell.. but they come in OEM box..we don't manufacture anything in Canada ....expect windturbines and ****-head politicians...

fatstax · COBOURG, ONT

every damn thing is made in china these days, at least with rock auto most of their stuff is either American made or mexico.

Shop_Rat · ONTARIO

fatchuk wrote:
we don't manufacture anything in Canada ....expect windturbines and ****-head politicians...

No, we don't even do that. We buy mostly from stateside. By the time they pay for themselves, they are worn out. Welcome the new breed of puppets. It's more important to boost their economy.

sasquatch · NORTH BAY, ONT

Agree about not much being made here anymore. I remember back 20?? years ago when manufacturing was starting to dwindle, Many of the machines were scrapped and sent to china or taiwan , and many more were exported out of the country.
Canada is going to end up as a vacationland for the rich from Europe and the far east.
I really doubt manufacturing will ever return here now, it is gone forever.

Shop_Rat · ONTARIO

sasquatch wrote:
Agree about not much being made here anymore. I remember back 20?? years ago when manufacturing was starting to dwindle, Many of the machines were scrapped and sent to china or taiwan , and many more were exported out of the country.
Canada is going to end up as a vacationland for the rich from Europe and the far east.
I really doubt manufacturing will ever return here now, it is gone forever.

Such is the truth. But if we look at history, wealth has done nothing but shift from various places around the globe over the centuries.

Gazoo · BADEN, ONT

saefifty wrote:
I was reading the post below about the runout in the drums and I'm wondering if the is any other bad offshore part stories ? ...Makes me wonder what it will be like when thats our only choice..

No worries with the run-out, they make the axles and spindles to match. wink

saefifty · PORT PERRY, ONT

I run into at least one bastard part a week here in my shop.I put wheel cylinders on while doing a brake job and couldn't get a good pedal.After an unreasonable amount of time and bleeding I pulled a wheel cylinder and the springs inside were missing...hows that for quality.I'm doing a timing belt and water pump on a Civic and when I put the pump in its grinding on the inside of the housing. When I check the pump out the impeller isn't pressed on all the way.Thats in one week!This kind of wasted time cant be billed so I loose.Where the H is the quality control.These are brake parts shouldnt there be some expectation of quality? Maybe big brother needs to add a surcharge and inspect more that comes here offshore?

saefifty · PORT PERRY, ONT

Shop Rat that is very astute ..I remember the whole made in Japan junk days..Now they have some wealth. I'd be doing well to get parts made there..I think it took Japan about maybe 25 years to get there manufacturing act together and get their wealth.At the end of that any manufacturing jobs lost here to Japan came back I believe.Now if population has an effect on this and going by the population of China and their in ability to demand better wages I'd think we are stuck with this junk for about 75 years..

Lightspeed Mike · BELLEVILLE, ONT

Anymore I will go to the dealer for parts. After market water pumps, brake calipers, alternators etc are just about a guarantee come back sooner or later.

fatchuk · ST MARYS, ONTARIO

wierd that you guys have so many bad parts..I can honestly say I have been in this trade for more than 40 years..the last 30 years I have had my own shop with other techs working with me..and with the exception of a few bad front wheel bearing on Gm stuff ..chineese or right from the dealer..fails while under warranty..I have had very few bad parts actualy I can't remember any in the last couple years..and everything from my jobber has a warranty and they pay my time if I have a bad or defective part..Just doesn't happen..I have no complaints on chineese stuff any more than I do with mexico, or brazsil or bolivia..or any other Aisian or foregien supplier..I do try to help or sometimes make decisions for my customer in quality..I know there is good, better, best and they do have different quality..I have some customer s that may be struggling financialy, or it's at the end of life or close ..there are many reasons to choose options but for me even chineese is a better option than used parts I will not install used parts on cutomers stuff anymore..I have not run into any issue with Made in China stuff..I don't like it , I wish those jobs were still here, but there not and they are not coming back, so quit bitching and get used to it..most of us could not afford to buy stuff made in Canada or the US any more ..They have priced themselves out of the market for wages and benifits..there is no going back..It ain't gonna happen so may as well get used to it..it is what it is...

el toro · LONDON, ONT

I've had good and bad parts from China, Mexico, USA and Canada. Fatchuk is absolutely right they didn't steel the jobs the greedy MBA's and the UAW-CAW gave them away.

Gazoo · BADEN, ONT

I replaced the front wheel hub assemblies last year, one of them crapped out in a week. I replaced the same one last month, after 8-9mths. The other one is still good.

But honestly, I replace parts regularly, and this is the one and only time I've had issues.
I don't expect the parts to last as long, but then again you pay way less $.

fatchuk · ST MARYS, ONTARIO

I was thinking how we like to bash all the made in China stuff, I am old enough to remember how we said the exact same things about the J A Pan company, when we were making CTC a giant in the automotive aftermarket with all the stuff we bought in the 50s, 60s, They are still where we all spend a lot of our dough on made in China...and how many of us got a shop with a lot of great tools from princess auto..Englishwheel, chineese lathes that work great for a home shop rodder..How would we build our stuff if it weren't for that chineese junk..I could never have imagined all the stuff we have to-day it's sorta like magic how every thing has changed during my short life time..I got a couple, hell, probably lots of good chineese junk..I think we are way past getting hung up on chineese stuff..Hard to find anything not made in China..I am old enough to remember all the great factory jobs and manufacturing almost everything we consumed Hell I believe my generation had the best life ..I don't know what happened ..how did we let our country get like this..I guess that's what happens when we don't pay attention to what our government is doing to us' as long as we are happy tax-payers..

damn lousy speller..

-- Edited by fatchuk on Sunday 27th of April 2014 08:16:37 PM

slim · DUNDAS, ONT

Gazoo wrote:
I replaced the front wheel hub assemblies last year, one of them crapped out in a week. I replaced the same one last month, after 8-9mths. The other one is still good.

But honestly, I replace parts regularly, and this is the one and only time I've had issues.
I don't expect the parts to last as long, but then again you pay way less $.

You may want to have a closer look at that side. Maybe something off that isn't that noticeable. what prompted you to change them in the first place, same side?... just seems odd .

Gazoo · BADEN, ONT

slim wrote:
Gazoo wrote:
I replaced the front wheel hub assemblies last year, one of them crapped out in a week. I replaced the same one last month, after 8-9mths. The other one is still good.

But honestly, I replace parts regularly, and this is the one and only time I've had issues.
I don't expect the parts to last as long, but then again you pay way less $.
You may want to have a closer look at that side. Maybe something off that isn't that noticeable. what prompted you to change them in the first place, same side?... just seems odd .

Slim, both sides were worn, left side more, so I changed both, they had 100k on them. The right side for some reason, was shot a week later (got a bad one).

I replaced the right side again, last month (about 30K on it), as I was replacing the lower ball joint. It wasn't toast, but the wear was noticeable, figured I'd change it then, instead of a couple months down the road.

-- Edited by Gazoo on Sunday 27th of April 2014 08:19:24 PM

fatchuk · ST MARYS, ONTARIO

Most jobbers offer 3 year warranty on them now .. but they sell a cheap one with a 1yr or 100ks warranty. even though I always get the three year one, they still fail in months.. haven't had a problem with that for a year or so now though.. guess they finally sold them to us... biggrin biggrin