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BARRIE, ONTARIO

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Even tho I have sbc,s . I need my memory refreshed . No I,m not gonna google it . a 327 with 350 crank in it , doesn't that just make it a 350 . I thot the bores were the same , just the 327 had a shorter stroke . ..77.



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If I recall, a 327 or 350 were exactly the same. With a 20 foot chain, they would both keep a 15 ft boat steady in waters with a slight current.

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Both the 327 and the 350 have a 4" bore but the pistons have different compression heights so they are not interchangeable. The 327 has a 3.25" stroke and the 350 has a 3.48" stroke. The early 327 engines had a smaller crank bearing size than the 350 engine.

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hemi43 wrote:

If I recall, a 327 or 350 were exactly the same. With a 20 foot chain, they would both keep a 15 ft boat steady in waters with a slight current.


 you cut deep sometimes--plick--lol



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Bruce Rossiter wrote:

Both the 327 and the 350 have a 4" bore but the pistons have different compression heights so they are not interchangeable. The 327 has a 3.25" stroke and the 350 has a 3.48" stroke. The early 327 engines had a smaller crank bearing size than the 350 engine.


 bingo - the 302 also is a 327/350 block. the 67 - 302 was the small journal 327 block with the 3 inch stroke 283 crank. for 68-69 it was the large journal with a dedicated crankshaft.



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i'm using a 69 350 4 bolt main block with a crank out of a later 68 327. they both have the same bore and same size journals for the crank. so in the end i have a 327 with 4 bolt mains. i cross referenced the later 327 crank number and it also was used in 307's.

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I have a couple of large journal 327 cranks for sale cheap. $50. each

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Okaaaaaaaay . so as to my original question . a 327 with a 350 crank in it , isn,t it just a 350 now ???/ or is there some advantage to putting a 350 crank in a 327 , ie more rpm , more tork etc etc ..77.

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I don't think there is an advantage. If you're doing it the other way around 327 crank in a 350, then you have a hi rev'r

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a longer stroke will make more torque whereas a short stroke with the same bore will rev higher. the best example i can think of is the z28 302, a de stroked 327 for the trans am racing series. they would rev to the moon but had no low end grunt.



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77 wrote:

Okaaaaaaaay . so as to my original question . a 327 with a 350 crank in it , isn,t it just a 350 now ???/ or is there some advantage to putting a 350 crank in a 327 , ie more rpm , more tork etc etc ..77.


 just a 350 if you're also using 350 pistons. as they say no substitutions for cubic inches but i still like something that revs, thats why i went the other way around with a 4 bolt main for peace of mind.



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Sacotu wrote:
....as they say no substitutions for cubic inches 

 Oh yes there is!   wink

(and no it's not EFI )



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DaveM wrote:
Sacotu wrote:
....as they say no substitutions for cubic inches 

 Oh yes there is!   wink

(and no it's not EFI )


 8-71 perhaps ?



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studeshaker wrote:

a longer stroke will make more torque whereas a short stroke with the same bore will rev higher. the best example i can think of is the z28 302, a de stroked 327 for the trans am racing series. they would rev to the moon but had no low end grunt.


 

True but they sure sound sweet at about 8000rpm!



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DaveM wrote:
Sacotu wrote:
....as they say no substitutions for cubic inches 

 Oh yes there is!   wink

(and no it's not EFI )


 Still Waiting



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Sacotu wrote:
DaveM wrote:
Sacotu wrote:
....as they say no substitutions for cubic inches 

 Oh yes there is!   wink

(and no it's not EFI )


 Still Waiting


 I'm thinking turbo, if you can rev the snot out of it . Efi would make it even better.



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 I'm thinking turbo.

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, so close.  I think the correct answer is TWIN turbo  biggrinbiggrin



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 You guy's are on the right track. One word answer,  Boost . Which ever way you choose. More air in, more fuel in, more power out. A substitute for cubic inches.

One of the fastest cars at the last armdrop was a street car that had a 122ci engine. 

 

 

 

 

 



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DaveM wrote:

 You guy's are on the right track. One word answer,  Boost . Which ever way you choose. More air in, more fuel in, more power out. A substitute for cubic inches.

One of the fastest cars at the last armdrop was a street car that had a 122ci engine. 

 

 

 

 

Don't you mean 131ci?

I'm tallking about the 350 SBC that "windowed" the block with FIVE of its connecting rods, still ran AND was still one of the fastest cars at armdrop.

 

(just kidding) winkbiggrin

 



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so wouldn't a 427 on boost make more power then a 350 on boost with everything else the same. i'm still holding to no substitution for cubic inches.

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I am not into the no sub for cubes thing. And I have built many strokers.
I regularly run cars of similar weight with twice the size engine or close and do not live in fear with my 246 cubes .
The RIGHT heads with the RIGHT cam for the RPM desired with the RIGHT carb for the airflow of the engine with the RIGHT compression for the cam duration and a PROPERLY reworked distributor(NOT properly bought BTW)will blow the doors of all the fancy hi $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ gobbly gook shiny purple carbed stuff with ease. Nothing more fun then hunting tigers with a BB gun and getting them.
Any V8 engine with a 4 inch bore cubes can quickly be calculated with Stroke X100 +2.
IE your chevy 4X100+2. 4 inch bore , 3.48 inch stroke plus 2 = 350 cubes.
A 360 Mopar 4 inch bore, 3.58 stoke plus 2 =360 cubes
302 Ford, 4 inch bore, 3 inch stroke plus 2+ =302
My own discovery BTW
Turbos are also fun. Did a slant six turbo in 1975 for Stu Denyes. Car was often at Cayuga or Mohawk and won a pilé of gold. It would be fun to do again with almost 40 years more knowledge and experience. It was a Blue 32 Austin Bantam now owned by Chris Cleaver and sporting a 383 Mopar. With the turbo we used a 170 slant six.
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