Furnaces are like cars, everyone has their favourites . If you were closer I would come and give you a quote. Check the warranties and with the ac units ask about the noise the compressor makes. Some are pretty noisy.
I started to do the heat runs. Gotta get the hot and cold main ducts in yet. Most likely will see if I can buy the heat and air units and put them in myself and get a gas fitter to do the gas lines and check it out. Just want to get a good one.
-- Edited by JohnnyBgood on Wednesday 28th of May 2014 10:10:51 PM
Put your own AC and furnace in and save yourself thousands of dollars. I just finished the install in my house this week. Cost me $2600 for a 2 1/2 ton 13 seer AC plus High efficiency gas 2-stage furnace. Was quoted almost 8k.
huh I was quoted 8K just for a furnace last year by direct energy
I thought that was kinda steep
a question I have is can I exhaust a new gas furnace up the chimney ? - I don't have the distance needed to be clear of any doors & windows for the out the wall style - not to mention I hate like hell to have some hunks of plastic pipe sticking out the walls like some aborted plumbing experiment
-and I've heard of major attic moisture issues from the exhaust climbing up the walls & I have 2 foot overhangs on the roof
sorry for the semi thread jack - maybe the answers are usefull though
-- Edited by DJD on Thursday 29th of May 2014 12:57:08 AM
a question I have is can I exhaust a new gas furnace up the chimney ? - I don't have the distance needed to be clear of any doors & windows for the out the wall style - not to mention I hate like hell to have some hunks of plastic pipe sticking out the walls like some aborted plumbing experiment
-and I've heard of major attic moisture issues from the exhaust climbing up the walls & I have 2 foot overhangs on the roof
-- Edited by DJD on Thursday 29th of May 2014 12:57:08 AM
Trying to stick them anywhere but out the closest wall is just asking for trouble. This is what mine looks like and has been installed since the late 80's
Unlike a mid efficiency furnace the condensate on a high efficiency is acidic and will eat steel and copper , brick, mortar . I don't think it would do your roof any good. Never heard of it crawling up the walls into the attic as most are installed 2 to 3 feet from the ground depending on the anticipated height of snow cover. Any moisture should fall to the ground. Normally through the winter I walk around and remove the icicle that drips from the exhaust . Hell you're going to have more moisture in the air when it rains then what your furnace pumps out not to mention the dryer vent. Sound's more like someone's half baked excuse for screwing up something else .
-- Edited by slim on Thursday 29th of May 2014 07:56:35 AM
I was looking at a Keepright or a Ream. Both seem to be good units. I really think the are all made at the same place and they just put on a different name tag.
I installed a Rheem high efficiency around 6 years ago to replace a old lennox pulse. Grabbed it mostly because i picked it up for manufactures cost + a case of beer before they closed the Canadian branch through a happy employee that lived in an apartment . Works well and has been no problem. Of the few I know of out there one had a heat exchanger problem and was fixed for free. Other than that I haven't heard anything bad. I think Wolf steel is making a Canadian furnace in barrie not sure if its affiliated with the wolf steel of Quebec that makes aftermarket body panels.
Thats funny Joe paid 475 Canadian new in the box for a 60.000 btu unit. Picked it up at their warehouse. Had 600 into it by the time it was installed. If i could have I would of bought a truck load.
I was looking at a Keepright or a Ream. Both seem to be good units. I really think the are all made at the same place and they just put on a different name tag.
Here's how you can figure out what furnace you want.
Go online, and check availability of parts. Not sure if you plan on doing your own repairs or maintenance for the life of your furnace, but if you're like me, I want to be able to get replacement parts easily if anything should happen.
I bought a Goodman furnace for both my shop and my house. Not because they were the best, but because I could service them myself. They are probably the most popular brand of furnace.
As far as the exhaust, the manual that comes with it shows exactly how and where it must go. This is critical because as Slim said , there's tons of water created and proper drainage is critical. You can't exhaust a high efficiency furnace up a furnace BTW.
-- Edited by hemi43 on Thursday 29th of May 2014 09:14:21 AM
I was working for a heating/air company.
Laid off, 3rd year apprentice
We used keeprites, I found them really quiet, but have nothing to compare to.
Your too far for my ex bosses to come install, but maybe theyd sell ya the units, but I imagine thered be a small charge on top the actual cost.
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Had a few local offers to sell me a unit but they say the manufacture voids the warrantee if not installed by a licensed gas fitter... Think there's any truth to that?
Had a few local offers to sell me a unit but they say the manufacture voids the warrantee if not installed by a licensed gas fitter... Think there's any truth to that?
No truth to it.
After you install, you register the unit either by mail or e-mail. This will get you full manufacturers warranty, which in my case is 10 years on the heat exchanger.
I have a keepright high efficiency, was installed in 2004. Only had one motor go and that was early last winter. Replaced it with a used unit and it has been happy ever since.
The motors do not use bearings, they use bushings, bushing dried up and locked. I tore it apart, greased the bushings and the old motor works once again and is now sitting on the shelf as a spare.
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You can vent a furnace through a chimney , as long as you are using the white s636 pipes and are under the maximum distance allowed for the furnace. All the condensation comes back to the furnace and is removed there.
I was in the HVAC business for 25 years, stick with any of the major brands.
Compare the warranties and efficiency ratings
The higher the SEER rating for your A/C the more efficient it is.
The large installation companies that offer long term financing are generally twice as much money as the smaller companies .
I have a Goodman furnace and A/C in my place but that's only because their distribution and parts warehouse is 10 minutes from my house.
And you can run the vents up through your existing chimney but the vent and intake pipes have to be insulated and there is a limit on distance and number of elbows you can use.
If it's possible to vent out the wall ,do it .
The distances from windows and doors varies depending on btu's of the furnace.
To clarify, you can't just stub your vent into your old chimney but you can run the new pipes up through the chimney , the vent will have to be 636 and both the vent and intake pipes will have to be insulated and the chimney sealed around the pipes
To clarify, you can't just stub your vent into your old chimney but you can run the new pipes up through the chimney , the vent will have to be 636 and both the vent and intake pipes will have to be insulated and the chimney sealed around the pipes
To clarify, you can't just stub your vent into your old chimney but you can run the new pipes up through the chimney , the vent will have to be 636 and both the vent and intake pipes will have to be insulated and the chimney sealed around the pipes
BINGO!!
that's the answer I was hopeing for and pretty much what I had in mind - thanks
even considering the minimun distances for clearance to doors and windows I couldn'd vent out the wall considering my original 1967 windows as there's now way in hell I'd want exhaust fumes anywhere near my drafty leaky windows - but that's another project that needs done entirely
lol one of my heating cost issues has to be the original 1967 oil furnace - though at this point I'b bet it will last forever lol
sadly this house has suffered the fate of being lived in for so long by someone who's old enough to be blind as to the fact it's kinda fallen appart
it took me 6 years to fix the o-e plaster walls but now they look like they're cnc billit flat
