seen this for sale. Too bad no pics to compare. 

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/barrie/1970-nova/1046817885?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

That last post got some attention back. LOL

Anyway did some calling around today for pricing on materials.  No guess work here.

63 Mopar painted 1996 Viper GTS Blue.  Just picked a that blue for sake of argument and because it won't be the cheapest blue.

So here we go:

1 gallon of Matrix Viper Blue = $545.00 approx. plus tax

1 gallon of matrix base reducer = $71.00 plus tax

1 gallon of Auto Glass clear coat = $181.00 plus tax

Activator for 1 gallon of clear = $150.00 plus tax

1 gallon of urethane primer (Nason) = $151.00 for the kit plus tax

1 gallon of SPI epoxy with activator = $320.00 for the kit plus tax ( one quart is $120 for the kit)

1 Gallon of evercoat featherfil = $80.00 approx. plus tax

There is more to be added like sandpaper, tape, welding supplies, bondo etc but I don't have a price on that right yet. 

These products I would be more than happy to use on my own car if I was doing one up.   They are not on the cheap end of things but there are better more expensive products. 

 Now some would argue that you don't need a gallon of this and a gallon of that but I would say that as the SPI epoxy proves, the more you buy the cheaper it gets.  One gallon of paint will do the jambs and under the deck lid etc.  This list would allow the car to be stripped to bare steel on all outer surfaces, straightened and epoxied.  Then the filler work, then more epoxy.  Then the featherfil blocking and then the urethane and a couple more blockings.  I think I ball parked this out at  least a 4-5000 dollar job at a low hourly rate with no major metal work that needed to be done.  I always hope that some other bodymen would chime in and say something about this stuff.  I am just a throwing stuff out there for opinions etc. 

One thing you should do for me Flatduck is get a small fridge magnet and check the doors and quarters on the Nova as well as the 63 to see if there is any filler in the cars.   

flatduck wrote:

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ok now for more update there s a 350 that's in the car came previously from a 70 Pontiac tempest , it run the last time got headers, but no mufflers , gas tank is of the car I still have it but I wouldn t suggest using it after its been sitting since years beside my garage , there s no rad ,

if you study the pictures it shows signs that the right quarter panel has been change probably cause of an earlier accident
the left side the red part is the only part where there s damage the rest of the fender shape is pretty good , the hood of the car someone either put the ss chrome pieces or they change the hood I don t know enough about chevys to know if a regular nova came with the 2 chrome piece or that is only aSS option

but the engine was in a Pontiac but I m sure it wasn t the original from that car
I traded the 350 4botl main that was in the car but seize up for that engine , there s a distributor on that run electronic the points are gone

the sub frame bushin are new there is frame connector added a nice clean rad support still on black primer

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 if you look at the pics on page one it s kind of hard to get in there with a magnet

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how much for the nova station wagon ?

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Don't know.  The market is a funny thing to figure out right now.  We could start a whole new thread on that subject.  The wagon isn't for sale right now and I wouldn't sell it until it is running and done.  The value of the car would probably double if it is running and driving as well as safetied.  Projects don't seem to sell that well unless they are complete and not taken apart.  There was a 69-70 charger on Kijiji two days ago that was(or looked) complete but needed a complete make over for $3000.00 and it seems to have sold in one day.  I asked people on Steve's Nova Site for a value on my 67 Chevy II Sedan project that had lots of new parts in boxes and a very solid shell but the car is in pieces.  The general consensus was $2000.00 and even if that was US funds, that is not very good but it may be the reality of the market. 

I am curious as to what people on this site think about this subject now that it has kinda come up.

What cars are selling and what price range are they selling at???

My gut tells me that a $20-30000 car or truck (which there are lots out there for sale right now) are not selling other than to specific people who have disposable income and who have wanted that car forever like a dream car. The ones that have sold were probably extremely well done restos and cost probably $50000 plus to get them that way. 

I believe that in order to sell a car in todays market without a loss, you need to keep it sellable at under $15000 when it's done and make it look like it's worth $30000 plus.  That means very nice paint, very detailed EVERY WHERE.  I have seen lots of $12000 cars out there with average or aged paint, decent interiors and dirty suspension(basically drivers) but they don't seem to be selling either. 

So after all that talking ... I would have to say that my wagon right now probably would sell quick for $5000.00 as it sits and done probably in the less than $15000 range??? It isn't for sale right now and I would of course list it higher if it was. 

There's got to be some opinions on this subject out there right?? 

slab, i just bought a beautiful, lazer straight, 67 chevelle 427 - 4 spd for 19,500. both the seller and i are happy with the deal. the car is not an ss and the engine is a tall deck, things like that don't bother me because the car is such a beauty. the seller had become so frustrated that he was on the verge of taking the car south. these tv shows in my opinion are detrimental to this hobby, they create unrealistic scenarios that casual enthusiasts buy into.

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slab, i just bought a beautiful, lazer straight, 67 chevelle 427 - 4 spd for 19,500. both the seller and i are happy with the deal. the car is not an ss and the engine is a tall deck, things like that don't bother me because the car is such a beauty. the seller had become so frustrated that he was on the verge of taking the car south. these tv shows in my opinion are detrimental to this hobby, they create unrealistic scenarios that casual enthusiasts buy into.

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Thanks for replying.  I would probably be correct in saying that you could not build that car for 19500?? 

The funniest thing with the TV shows is the bargaining and haggling over a paint job. 

Slab - here is my partial take, on today's buy & sell market: cars & trucks and $$ in general...pre 2008/09, was the last of the good years.

#1 - its NOT just cars & trucks...nothing seems to be selling anymore !!
Decades ago, I easily sold several cars at the family farm, many times in one week or less...currently, some stuff takes a few years to unload.

Case in Point:
So I went searching on local kijiji and found a Kirby G6 (with hepa filteration), wife and I went to look at it a month ago...ad was 3 months old.
Lady had bought it brand new in year 2001 (costing $1,200) for her senior mother & decided it was too heavy for her.
- so while 14 years old, only got plugged in 2x and stored in their basement since / power head bristles were still spotless & had the original bag, etc.
Needless to say, the mint-used $250 Kirby (all aluminum construction, vacuum Made in Cleveland, OH) came home with us today.
- this Kirby G6 retailed for $1,350 plus today's HST = $1,500 new & only brings $250 in like new condition
- now time to sell the all plastic Dyson ball Vac dc25

  

#2 - Kijiji is full of WANT-A-BEES, and they entertain themselves daily, by dreaming of what could be & then only making email contact with sellers.
- no skin in the game, no drive to see
- just play bartering over the internet, in a one way game going nowhere
Case in Point:
seller -1983 Chevrolet listed with photo / 6 cyl. truck / needs rockers & cab corners...otherwise solid / PRICE = $1,200
buyer - Would u take 500$ for the 83 chevy trucks cause I need a truck I'm only 16 with my beginners and I need a vehicle

#3 - many project cars are never worth a $5,000 to $10,000 paint job (when all the metal work is finished)...no ROI left.
Instead - epoxy prime & block the high build yourself...but one needs a auto body equipped home garage investment

- sweat equity goes a long way, keeping $$ down / near show quality paint jobs on a budget, are possible...even spraying urethane is cheaper than base clear

- buy premium paint supplies, like from SPI / find a professional painter, rent a down draft spray booth & pay for 1/2 a day labor

ok for you Slab I tried a couple more pics today here

and here the reasons why I can t get any better pictures of all of it lolllllllllllllll need probably a day or 2 just to dig them out ,what you could say is there a big mess in there lolllllllllll