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Any one know where i can get insurance for my 67 camaro pro street show car ??
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Ive tried all the usual places  they denied me cause roll cage   Im not about to cut it out or lie to them   



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They wont isure it either They said because of roll cage :(

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Crosslands in london

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Just waiting for reply from them They are my last hope Tried lent , ecalone , etc :( thnks for ur imput

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If you remove the diagonal door bars from your chassis, it is no longer considered a cage by All of the drag racing sanctioning bodies.
Your not lying to the insurance company, and it makes it easier to get in and out of the car anyways.
This is the only way to get around them saying the car is being used for sport or racing purposes.
Hope this helps.




-- Edited by Moobster on Wednesday 3rd of June 2015 12:37:43 PM

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Those bars are removed on my shelf in garage But thats w good point thnk you

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Found this..might want to call this guy. if anyone would know it should be him.

ChampionsEdge.ca is your first choice for race car insurance in Ontario. With the support of one of the leading property and casualty insurance companies in Canada, our specialized program provides piece of mind for your race car while the engine is not running, for your trailer, tools and spare parts. Our low rates, monthly pay plan, FREE $5000 tool coverage and our personal experience and knowledge in motorsports, makes us exclusive in the industry. This program is based through Insureit Group Inc. in Markham, Ontario and managed by Michael Campolucci who is personally involved in drag racing. Michael's many years of experience and participation in the motorsports industry provides the consumer with the best understanding and advice to properly protect your assets. With over 40 years of insurance experience, Insureit Group Inc. is a full service brokerage that not only offers this unique program but also provides insurance for auto, home, commercial, life and group. Contact Michael Campolucci at michael@insureitgroup.com or 855-752-3600 Ext. 125 for more information.

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Thnks every one for ur help Im just waiting for a couple replys Its just a shame but guess the tuner kids have really messed things up

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I have a 65 Coronet tubbed and six point cage. Jeff Gerber  1 800- 667-1802  Zeher awesome guy... just had to sign a letter saying my vehicle was not being used in race application of any kind.

Rates are excellent... no hassle ... no cutting

ZEHR Insurance --

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NewHamburg Ont N3A 1K1

 

Anymore info needed let me know

Dave Robertson

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Nosebleeder wrote:

I have a 65 Coronet tubbed and six point cage. Jeff Gerber  1 800- 667-1802  Zeher awesome guy... just had to sign a letter saying my vehicle was not being used in race application of any kind.


 

This is something I've never understood.  I understand that cars on racetracks are not insured and I accept that.  My issue is, what gives any insurance company the right to refuse me the opportunity to take my own personal property (the insured-for-road-use vehicle) onto a racetrack?  As long as I understand that I am not insured while on the racetrack, and must be willing to accept all responsibility in the event of an on-track incident, I should be allowed to participate in a race, a test 'n tune day, or a lapping day if I want to.  They shouldn't be allowed to dictate how I use my vehicle.  Since cars aren't insured when on a track, insurance companies should have absolutely no say in the matter.       



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As far as im concerned i dont think they should be able to refuse a structurally enforced car I get it that it will cause more damage to the other car but thats not my problem in all the years ive been on the fire dept ive never seen an accident that included a classic car or one that has a roll cage Its always the other cars Wonder why that is ?? Maybe its the guy or girl that has hard earned money into these vehicles that actually use their heads while driving them Of course theres always an acception to the rule But for the most part u cant run to corner garage and get parts for them like the new junk on the rds

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67 camaro boy wrote:

Thnks every one for ur help Im just waiting for a couple replys Its just a shame but guess the tuner kids have really messed things up


 Do you really believe that??

Maybe I have had my head stuck in the sand, but I would say the 'pro-street guys' have done it to themselves! I suppose if you took your Camaro to a real MOT

Inspection Facility, that it would pass with flying colours? I have yet to see a pro-street guy who wasn't afraid to light'em on the street, but I guess you being a fireman,

you wouldn't do that. I guess that you wouldn't have 'Historic Plates' on your car like a lot of pro-street cars do either would you?

What has all this got to do with roll bars, nothing, I guess I just see the blame being put in the wrong place!

By the way, the sight and sound of a tuner makes my stomach turn!



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I have saw some Pro Street cars really put on a performance leaving cruise nights. Those guys probably ruined it for the rest of the Pro Street Cars. Now the Insurance Company's say "No Thanks" What goes around comes around.

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here you go one for the books!!!! www.youtube.com/watch

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Back in the old days, most of the real street racing (as in quarter mile with the occasional tubbed car, plenty of caged cars, slicks were common too along with nitrous and the occasional open headers) took place very late at night/very early morning, in an abandoned industrial area or the very lightly traveled (at that time of night/early morning) north end of the 404. My feeling is these "ricer racers" brought on a lot of unwanted attention by blasting alone (or racing each other) along heavily traveled roads/highways at ANY time of the day/night, with complete disregard to anyone else, either in another car or on foot. I live in the GTA and I can certainly say that I have seen PLENTY of ricers (lowered imports, stickers, used to have huge rear wings ... pretty easy to spot as they stood out) weaving in and out of heavy traffic on the 401 (and VERY obvious to the general public too) and have never seen a Pro Street car doing this.

Lighting up the tires leaving a show where the crowd is made up of car enthusiasts (both car owners and spectators) has definitely happened (guilty as I myself have had the foot slip off the clutch before too biggrin) but that doesn't make the news. Two ricers blasting through a school zone (during school hours) with one of the cars ending up wrapped around a tree, steps from the bus shelter, well that does make the news.

One other possibility regarding insurance and roll cages specifically is that a roll cage/bar can severally damage a persons head (to the point of death) if the drivers or passengers head contacts the roll bar while not wearing a helmet. Since there are no (or none that I'm aware of) safety standards or installation guidelines for installing cages/bars in street driven cars, the insurance companies may feel it's in their best interest just to refuse insurance to cars equipped with them. In these days of multiple airbags designed to protect the occupants, insuring a car that has a solid steel tube, with no padding on it, sitting within six inches of the driver/passengers heads, I can kind of see their point. A properly designed and installed cage will definitely make for a stronger vehicle but can also easily kill too.





-- Edited by Barchetta on Friday 5th of June 2015 08:03:23 AM

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Every one is guilty of showing off there is no question
But i do belive the tuners are the one that have wrecked it for others Cause any 17 year old can buy a honda and put a fart can on it and nitrous Not every kid can belly up 45-70 grand for a real car And as a matter of fact my car will pass saftey I am also a mechanic , prob safer than 60 percent the cars on the rd But that being said ive seen ppl die from hitting their head on b, pillar of cars also .

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I wonder if insurance companies differentiate between roll cages and roll bars.  I've certainly seen plenty of Mazda Miata's, MG's, Cobra kits, etc with roll bars in them, driving around.

As far as people being killed by the B pillar, I have no doubt that has happened, the difference (as I see it) is the cars were sold that way and were accepted as being safe for sale by the gov't, the insurance companies simply don't have a say in something like that as they weren't installed aftermarket and can't be removed ... an aftermarket cage, installed by anyone with a welder (or a drill for the bolt in ones) is something the insurance companies can dispute.  

I don't work in the insurance industry but I could certainly see (just as an example) an insurance company assessing a Pro Street car with one of those funny car style cages that basically completely surrounds a persons head with unpadded tubing, realizing the person driving the car on the street would not be wearing a helmet, then quickly putting on paper that roll caged cars (ANY roll caged cars) are not insurable ...

 

example of funny car cage in a door slammer.

 

funny car cage.jpg

 

 



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Why wouldn't you just make it removable for the street and put it back in when you are racing and don't have ins. coverage anyway. Ed

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