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AJAX, ONT

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Hi,

 

My 1948 Chrysler Windsor, seems to me not recharging the 6v battery. I could drive as long as I went, when I shout off and then turn on the key, crank. Check the voltage, it is low. 

 

Any suggestions?



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ram1976 wrote:

Hi,

 

My 1948 Chrysler Windsor,

seems to me not recharging the 6v battery.

I could drive as long as I went,

when I shut off and then turn on the key, it cranks ?.

Check the voltage, it is low. 

 

Any suggestions?


         what is the voltage for a stock situation?    you are saying it runs ok   but the issue is checking the voltage?   



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No, actually it is not starting right now after a 30min drive. When I turn on the ignition, I could hear a click noise, but lights are on. But could not start up

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A 12 volt system charges at 13.5-14.5 volts.....so I would think with it running, you should see about 7-8 volts. If not, I would suspect your generator or voltage regulator is bad. Could also be a broken wire somewhere.....I would get a voltmeter and start checking.

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wiring diagram

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poncho62 wrote:

A 12 volt system charges at 13.5-14.5 volts.....so I would think with it running, you should see about 7-8 volts. If not, I would suspect your generator or voltage regulator is bad. Could also be a broken wire somewhere.....I would get a voltmeter and start checking.


 7.2 volts would be better than 8...  for a 6 volt battery

and the best way to get answers is with a voltmeter... so.. report back with the voltage at the battery..  leave the meter on the ground terminal in place, and move the positive voltmeter lead to a few other places,, like the generator, and with the engine off,,, and with it running,, with the headlights on, and off.... and when you hit the start button..  

if you get above 5.2 on all the above,, then move the positive lead to the starter and measure while hitting the start button.. and maybe that will show low voltage there..

this will prove it is the battery,, the charging,, or the starter circuit.. and you can concentrate on the circuit that is acting up..

sometimes when a starter acts up,, the ground connection from the body to the engine has corroded..

 

check and let us know the voltage readings.



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the original drawing doesn't show the entire circuit for the starter button.. I think I drew it in correctly,, but I realized it is a POSITIVE ground drawing, so I am not sure..

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-- Edited by meester_jamie on Sunday 14th of June 2015 10:20:30 PM

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Yes, it is positive ground. I will check with voltage and let you know. Thank You all.

Anyone can recommend a good mechanic in Ajax?

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Here is the reading.

With load press 7.2.

While engine running with lights on is 5.9.


Car is running right now, when I turn off and turn back on after few minutes, it won't start right away. I have to release and press the push button for 3-5 times. Some times it start some time it won't.

Thank you


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ram1976 wrote:

Here is the reading.

With load press 7.2.

While engine running with lights on is 5.9.


Car is running right now, when I turn off and turn back on after few minutes, it won't start right away. I have to release and press the push button for 3-5 times. Some times it start some time it won't.

Thank you


 

 

I am going to assume you mean that it won't 'turn over' right away rather than it 'won't start' right away and that you need to press the button 3-5 times before it turns over.  If that's the case, then it sounds to me like you need to clean the connections at both ends of both battery cables and the connections related to the starter switch, then take a closer look at the starter switch itself.  If the battery is capable of turning the engine over on the 3-5 attempt, then it is strong enough to turn it over on the first and second attempt too ... that means to me that the battery is taking a charge and the charging system is working ... a bad connection at the cables or switch (or elsewhere in the starting circuit), or a switch that is intermittently connecting/failing to connect will cause what you are experiencing and is possibly the cause of your issues.



I have no experience with 6 volt systems but the numbers you posted look good enough to me.



-- Edited by Barchetta on Monday 15th of June 2015 02:20:47 PM

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Barchetta, thanks, I believe that connectors too. When I move around the cables, it start to turn over. I'm not a mechanic, could you please direct me how can I clean both ends of terminals and wires? Thanks

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ram1976 wrote:

 When I move around the cables, it start to turn over.


 

Definitely sounds like a bad connection.  

In my own personal experience, the most likely spot for a bad connection is at the battery itself due to corrosion.  Disconnect one battery cable/wire, use sand paper to clean the battery post and to clean inside the cable clamp where it contacts the battery.  Reinstall the cable.  Do this again to the other cable/wire and battery post.  If this doesn't do it, then the other end of each battery cable/wire needs to be cleaned as well.  This may end up solving your problem, but it might not as well, it could still be the starter switch itself and the jiggling of the wires is affecting the switch.  The battery cables themselves could also be the issue if they have worn through somewhere or have aged poorly and are full of corrosion.  Start with the easy stuff like cleaning the battery connections and even if the car starts well after cleaning the first cable .... keep at it and clean the second one too, if the one connection is poor, chances are the other one is not too far behind.

 

 

 








-- Edited by Barchetta on Tuesday 16th of June 2015 07:45:33 AM

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ram1976 wrote:

Barchetta, thanks, I believe that connectors too. When I move around the cables, it start to turn over. I'm not a mechanic, could you please direct me how can I clean both ends of terminals and wires? Thanks


1 disconnect the cable that runs to the frame (ground) This way you will not short anything out by touching other terminals.

2 disconnect other cable at the battery, and clean that battery terminal with a sharp knife or tool used for this purpose

3 clean the end of the cable that attaches to the terminal in 2  This can be done with a small knife that will fit in the terminal end.

4 while you're at it, check the terminals at the starter switch/button to make sure they are clean and tight.

5 when you're happy that all terminals are clean & tight, re-install the cable that you took off first.

It's not brain surgery, and not hard to do. Just don't get in a panic



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Thank You all, Let me try this and let you know. Good day

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