I agree Pete but for the hobby to survive we will have to let the next generation pick the cars that they relate to attend the shows and cruises. Time marches on and you and I are getting left behind for the newer tin that you add a few bolt on items. When it breaks you just go and buy another one off the lot. For myself I try and attend prewar and vintage events on both sides of the boarder and they are also getting smaller groups of cars.

The newer cars there, I just walk by them. On Sunday at the Prescott show there was a ?? looked like a stock smart car. A bit ridicules in my opinion, but I don't run any shows.

If you don't like the event don't go back its that simple . Get used to it....  at one point only misfits and losers drove harley's ... look at it now ... its almost embarrassing to say you own one....

Cruises down my way have mostly opened up to allow many cars that we as hotrodders would never consider..it saddens me a bit ..but if you look at the ages of most hotrodders, we're getting old and a lot of us are passing away! Who's left? Young people! The average young guy can't afford a hot rod so they do the next best thing..they get what they can afford! Personally I'm a fan of all mustangs so my view will be biased...lol..it's our job to get these youngsters interested in our hobby...even the NSRA understood what was happening..they changed the cutoff years from 48 to include later models...why? Because attendance and involvement were dwindling down! Nothing excites my blood like a streetrod or streetmachine from the early days! Just my opinion!

-- Edited by cr55 on Thursday 7th of July 2016 10:12:16 AM

Smokin Joe wrote:

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True the hobby is going to go through a long popularity decline regarding the older cars. I will never forget in the mid 60s a friend payee Ron Fawcett $1,000. for an original 1936 Ford roadster. Everyone laughed at him for paying such a large sum for such a newer car. Now a days you do not see the early cars especially no brass cars around like there was at one time. Another thing how often did you see an engine with a blower on it or an aluminum engine at your local hangout in the 60s. I only seen that kind of stuff in a magazine or large show back then. So time marches on out with the old and in with the new. And if you have not noticed we are the old.

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Above maybe true...A friend once said "Hell man you can't wash you're spirit an you can not wring out  you're soul,now lets roll"

 

Also would like to say r.i.p. Ron Fawcett

An well we're at such r.i.p.  Don butt

I think we as car enthusiasts should welcome any neat car, new or old. If we want to grow this hobby or even keep it where it is we need young people involved and most of them wouldn't walk across the street to look at an old car. But, if there's cases there that they like they might eventually see the attraction of real Hot Rods and muscle cars and get involved. I personally don't care much for rat rods (specially some of the absolute crap you see in the States) but they are affordable and it's a way for young guys to get started.

slim wrote:

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If you don't like the event don't go back its that simple . Get used to it....  at one point only misfits and losers drove harley's ... look at it now ... its almost embarrassing to say you own one....

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         Seems to be a resurgence at the race track for young folks.....  e.g  St Thomas   

         I don't know why all the "old guys" want to limit the year of vehicle ?      

         I'm 67 and still love hot rods and muscle cars and new muscle    

         So I just stay away    Kinda boring watching old guys falling asleep in their lawn chairs

 

        I was looking at a friends sons car today    

        no one wants him at old car cruise nights    

        Hes 20   look at his hot rod    

 

 

These cruise ins are usually at a public parking lot, so how can you stop anyone from parking there.
Some people just have to learn to relax a bit.

I'm seeing this a bit differently and don't get me wrong I really like my old cars.  Back in the 80's, we had big V8 engines producing 220 HP.  Modifying cars was the only way to go if you wanted some driving excitement.  Back then, you could find good used parts or high quality replacements and my body did not hurt like hell after installing a camshaft.  I'm finding the quality of the aftermarket parts now is dismal.  Check out the attached picture of a Cloyes timing chain after 10k.  The tech at Cloyes claims that their double roller "race" series are not engineered for street use, WTF?.  Finding good NOS parts is also getting crazy.  The other concern for me is safety, I was heading home from work one day by the metro zoo and a young girl crossed the center line and hit me head on.  If I was driving the Challenger as I had been the day before it may have ended badly.  These days you can buy a 600hp car relatively cheap, travel around with A/C and the security of a warranty and if something happens I don't have the guilt of putting myself or the people I car about at risk.  I recently sold the Challenger, in part because I see the values of the old cars slipping recently and I don't like the exposure.  I still have the 67 Fastback and I'm pretty excited about it but I have to admit a new Challenger would probably fit my lifestyle better.  I actually like seeing the newer cars at the shows.  Its nice to see something fresh and see the energy that youth brings to the hobby.             

Posted on the local KIJIJI today

www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-other/belleville/tired-of-the-classic-car-show-at-the-balk-barn-plaza/1183598486

Copied and pasted in case the link goes away.

Tired of the Classic Car Show at the Balk Barn Plaza

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Asked to join in with my 10 and 15 year old cars. My 01 is a really rare GT1 in decent shape needs some touch up paint and really hard to come by with ram air hood and everything, was denied when there was a few modern cars such as corvette and trans ams that is younger than my two cars. I dont understand how someone has to profile other people because what the drive, and only having classic cars are actually profiling others and actually makes me mad because others cant have fun because of what they drive and they put hours into it and blood sweat and tears into my ride! I put so much love into my project.

I want the organizers to let up on that CLASSIC OR MUSCLE CAR RULE! I think it is WRONG and should let modern cars, original or slightly or heavily modded to enjoy and join in, I feel this is wrong and I feel this is discrimination in a way towards the younger audience and female drivers.

I am sad that things have to be this way, competition between modern and classic cars, Its sad that things have to be this dumb. I feel that people shouldnt have to be told NO if want to join in, it should be accepted to any car shows. I find that people with Classic cars look at us weird with more modern car. I feel this is my opinion, people should accept everyone who what they drive, as ugly as 26 inch rims on a car but they should be accepted.

Hywayhauler wrote:

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"Restrictions" Just saying...

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 Thank-you ! 

I have nothing against the newer cars at cruises or car shows . They should all be allowed in and its up to the spectators to stop and have a look at them. Myself, my interest is in the "older" models that I can relate to my youthful foolish days. The newer cars, I just keep walking by. After the 70s muscle car era theres not much to interest me although there are some cars out there that are good looking and powerful.