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PORT HOPE, ONT

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So we were having a discussion on another site about  transportation in general including Uber and autonomous taxi services ,self driving cars and green vehicles. Now, understand,  these are not car people ,its a political site .

The discussion was about change There was talk about how everything changes and we don't see it coming like Blockbuster franchises and VHS demise and how a lot of things from hockey cards, books, and may I ad car

magazines are all but worthless now. Just wondering how our hobby may be affected in the future from legislation,gas availability,pollution controls ,safety standards(crash survival standards),peoples attitudes toward old cars

drag racing,any big racing event, fuel mileage etc. I am not really talking about car guys attitudes , hell I will sit in my delivery in the back yard and make vroom vroom noises if necessary but just wondering where we are going

to be in 5or10 yrs with all this autonomous and electric stuff. Outside there doesn't seem to be much love for the internal combustion engine ,even some car company's have stopped making them, so where does that leave us and

as  one poster put it all those resource using ,polluting ,noise cars and motorcycles. Maybe I should just stay off the political sites . Ed



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I hear ya Ed.......I think we lived in just the right era. We have our hot rods, whether our grankids care or not, up to them. I don't think it's our duty or place to force it on them.

Me too about the politics......just stresses me out

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need hockey cards to finish my 1970 71 opeechee serie if you have some .... i don t find the newer cards that exciting to collect i could see why new generation didn t get interest in them


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if you go on kijji and look at the selection for what s call classic cars you ll see lot of 70 and 80 s that are selling or for sale more than 50 sand 60 s


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if you go on kijji and look at the selection for what s call classic cars you ll see lot of 70 and 80 s that are selling or for sale more than 50 sand 60 s


Try and sell an original car 1916 to 27 and see the response you will get. NOT GOOD 



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good point ed, where is this hobby headed and how fast are we getting there, don't know but it will be faster than we think, i'm guessing. our parents and grand parents didn't have all the hi-tech technology influencing their lives as we do today. our kids but more so our grand-kids are coming out of school now 1/2 assed prepared for it. they can't spell or are somewhat illiterate in basic math, but give them today's lap top or smart phone and we become the dinosaur's and they say this new g-5 tech coming at us is going to make the last 50-60 years look ancient. remember back in the 60's when they heralded the first computers and you were seeing all the data cards being fed through them and they were predicting this technology would be revolutionary in the future, i do and so far they were right. lol
-now, throw in the hi-tech and the pollution problem which is probably way worse than they are telling us and give it all a stir and you will find what is going to influence our hobby, i am thinking. joe is right about the early cars not really worth much today and i think it is due to that generation, our parents and grand parents, who were interested in them have all passed on. today when they sell it is most times to be rodded out to suit our generation.

- predictions,   1-  the grey areas in pollution control devices on our cars will become black and white, not grey.

                      2-  good hi-test petroleum based gas will be harder to come by and expensive.

                      3-  400 series highways will be off limits unless you are electric and eventually autonomous.

                      4-  your guess, but when you have the worlds largest auto maker, g-m, making drastic changes to prepare for whats coming

                           i'd say that's a good hint of where were going, maybe. lol

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last september i was a pall bearer for my last aunt on dads side who passed at the age of 99 just 1 month short of the 100 mark. at the reception after the funeral some of the discussion got into what all she had seen change in her lifetime and someone mentioned what all her dad, grand-pop, had seen in his 87 yrs also. there weren't many cars around in 1885 and he lived long enough to see a man walking on the moon. 1885 to 1972, moonwalk 1969 and i know he still had his smarts up till just before he passed.

-whatever all the changes were in their lives are going to be almost stone age compared to what we are, hopefully lol, going to see with the hi-tech element thrown into the pot for a stir. 

 

 



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shag766 wrote:

 after the funeral some of the discussion got into what all she had seen change in her lifetime and someone mentioned what all her dad, grand-pop, had seen in his 87 yrs also. there weren't many cars around in 1885 and he lived long enough to see a man walking on the moon. 1885 to 1972, moonwalk 1969 and i know he still had his smarts up till just before he passed.

 

 

 


 Every generation that ever was, and will ever be, will see the "changes in their life time" phenomenon. I'll be 67 in a couple of months, and can relate to, and recall many changes. Some good, some bad. The era of vehicles that we are referring to are coming to a close for lots of reasons, best enjoy it while you can. Our grandkids will likely only get a taste of it all... and only if we include them. The ride to the beach for ice cream, the odd car show/cruise night etc. Yep, it's all changing, it's changing faster now than ever. Makes me wonder if and how the future generations will cope? Then again, what's coming up just might be their "sweetspot" in life. Looks bleak to me, but then I've had a great ride so far.



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We embraced rock and roll much to the chagrin or our parents, our kids danced to 80s music, ugh and now our grandkids, maybe some of you, reading this have found a whole new venue. My son, 26, writes this latest music, I don't understand it but my parents didn't understand CHUM. Things constantly evolve. Next, young people today live in an overly expensive world at a minimum wage. There is no room for anything but the basics. It isn't only cars; antiques, stamps, coins and other rarities are dropping in value. There are too few buyers today that can afford to drive the price up. But then, we all knew getting into this hobby, it wasn't for the profit. We're all getting too old to waste our time complaining, let's just enjoy these last few minutes we have and let the next generations find their own enjoyment.

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wuga wrote:

We embraced rock and roll much to the chagrin or our parents, our kids danced to 80s music, ugh and now our grandkids, maybe some of you, reading this have found a whole new venue. My son, 26, writes this latest music, I don't understand it but my parents didn't understand CHUM. Things constantly evolve. Next, young people today live in an overly expensive world at a minimum wage. There is no room for anything but the basics. It isn't only cars; antiques, stamps, coins and other rarities are dropping in value. There are too few buyers today that can afford to drive the price up. But then, we all knew getting into this hobby, it wasn't for the profit. We're all getting too old to waste our time complaining, let's just enjoy these last few minutes we have and let the next generations find their own enjoyment.

Warren


        I work in a repair shop with a friend (who ones the shop) He was born in 1975 .  He loves my stories of muscle car days .He's only know trucks :)          He loves big horsepower trucks and has a 600 HP shortbox diesel and a 450 HP quad steer Duramax 06 Suburban .

        I see lots of trucks coming in for Tunes and bigger exhaust, wheels and tires  (great) 

        I have had, just about every muscle car example, from a 66 L72 Coupe to a real 69Z28 .   I love the new muscle because Im spoiled :) 

        I see most old car shows in "our" area, full of cars that haven't been over 100 km per hour in 20-30 years 

        A lot of old sagging suspension and stinky fuel smells 

        My grandson has been looking over my shoulder for 22 years, and is a mechanic (Goderich Hyndai) and has a lowered 6.0L shorbox 

        I feel sad to see the old car hobby turning into expensive garage queens . but I am excited to see the young men enjoying trucks.. 



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wuga wrote:

We embraced rock and roll much to the chagrin or our parents, our kids danced to 80s music, ugh and now our grandkids, maybe some of you, reading this have found a whole new venue. My son, 26, writes this latest music, I don't understand it but my parents didn't understand CHUM. Things constantly evolve. Next, young people today live in an overly expensive world at a minimum wage. There is no room for anything but the basics. It isn't only cars; antiques, stamps, coins and other rarities are dropping in value. There are too few buyers today that can afford to drive the price up. But then, we all knew getting into this hobby, it wasn't for the profit. We're all getting too old to waste our time complaining, let's just enjoy these last few minutes we have and let the next generations find their own enjoyment.

Warren


 there you go warren, the music, good one. chum radio toronto with scruff connors, r.i.p, and ??? radio montreal with ralf the bird man lockwood come to mind from my old truck driving days. there was another guy in vancouver who had a following and a couple of more stations that skipped in late at night from chicago and the big apple. the beatles were no doubt the biggest cultural influence on our generation with the long hair, the bell bottom pants and the higher heels on the shoes. i can remember dad getting real loud about the hair and the heels with mom telling him to relax as he had obviously forgot about the zoot suits and ??? else his dad cracked off about. funny what you remember isn't it. music is a common thread that can bind generations, that is until they got to the rap crap stuff, for me anyway.



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A different take on the subject.
www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/articles/2018/07/24/gen-x-and-millenials-are-ready-to-carry-the-collectible-car-torch

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One evening as I lamented to my wife about all the stuff we did as kids - riding a dirt bike from our farm through the next few farms to the lake , for example - my wife responded " Randy, I know you want our kids to have fun the way we did, but they can't. They'll find fun suitable to their generation and they won't miss what they never knew". She's right. Us old guys want to re-live our glory days through our kids so just gotta learn to let go and keep moving forward.



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I think hot rodding is gonna die off with us as we do

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What about roddin space ships???


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You mean like those scooter racers in Star Wars. Ed

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77 wrote:

I think hot rodding is gonna die off with us as we do


Its already happening. Only a small segment of "ratrod" guys are interested in the old stuff.  Theres gonna be some good deals commin up.I would give it another 10yrs. Hope Im wrong.



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I hope it doesn,t end too too soon . I,m getting my 72 gremlin drag car ready for sale right now . Hope to have it on racing junk dot com and evil bay for summer …. then comes the gasser project . Come on American Dineros

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I Love the gassers. Grew up in TO in the 60s .Gassers all around. Not much interest in street gassers here-more in the states.I would love to see more up here.



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The gasser project is going to States too

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I hear what you guys are saying but there are lots of younger people enjoying the hobby as well. I went to one show this summer in Ottawa and there had to be at least 200-250 tuner type cars there. Perhaps not what you are into but great to see just the same. Guys taking cars and turning them into something else. We grew up with big blocks, high horsepower straight line speeds. These guys are building smaller motors putting out big numbers with turbos and measuring speed by going around a track with better handling then what was built long ago. Might not like there music, my parents don't like mine, so what. Might not like there cars but they don't like mine, so what. We all don't like the same things. For you guys, did you encourage your kids to be with you while building? Did you give them the resources to try and build stuff? For me, well I have 3 boys, I took them to all kinds of car shows. Two of them are into cars big time, one is building or has built several already. That kid has owned more cars in 10 years then I have in 40. The other one has had one rod but sold it to get a bike. The middle child says he is into cars but wants a house first. What is he building, battle bots. Yes fighting robots. Been to California on TV, goes to several tournaments a year all in order to bust up someone else's toy or his. I always had the kids building stuff with me. Things come and go but it is the love for a child or the love we show them that lasts. Being with them is everything, the stuff we have is all bonus. IMHO
Sorry if this sounds like a rant, well it is in part I guess. Things change. That's life

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robot should be fun must be expensive to


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i seen many times here older people pushing youngster with tuners away they had to go park way at the end of the parking lot not the best way to encourage them to like old cars or old people


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so how many members here are in their 20 s ?

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so how many members here are in their 20 s ?


 Seems that most of the young guys are on Facebook etc, not on the forums. 



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i seen many times here older people pushing youngster with tuners away they had to go park way at the end of the parking lot not the best way to encourage them to like old cars or old people


 Me to seeing that. Really a shame. There is so much knowledge to be passed around.



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My niece worked for CBC radio and she was asked to do an editorial piece on the old car hobby.  She pointed out that while my generation had fond memories of the old cars going places, driving fast and making noise her generation only saw them sitting still at a car show with the owners sitting behind them.  Not quite as exciting.



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Wow ,out of the eyes of the kids. So very true. Kinda like expecting a kid to want a toy in the future that they had to leave in the box
cause it might be worth something some day. Ed

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Livetodrive wrote:

My niece worked for CBC radio and she was asked to do an editorial piece on the old car hobby.  She pointed out that while my generation had fond memories of the old cars going places, driving fast and making noise her generation only saw them sitting still at a car show with the owners sitting behind them.  Not quite as exciting.


 

Hope to change this. Hopefully, I will take my kids for a nice cruise to the east coast in the El Camino this summer if I can get the engine swap done in time.

Driving fast and making noise along the way. biggrin

Memories for them actually tooling around, rather than just going to a cruise night of parked cars.



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As it should be Pugsy, as it should be.

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