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DJD


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trying to find swivel suitable for oil pump pick-up
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gotta be industrial /life time (me) quality

- must allow full 360* ++ rotation of pickup screen at end of tube

 

must be oil proof seals of course 

 

I'd swear mopar used to have a stock looking pickup tube with a swivel on the pick up pan at the end but I can find no trace they ever existed

 

the milodon stuff won't work as I have a typical in the crankcase pump and pickup

 

something kinda similar to the one in the picture would be about what I'm looking for but this obviously wouldn't allow 360 rotation as it would run into itself



-- Edited by DJD on Wednesday 7th of August 2019 12:12:47 PM

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ha ha
stumped ya..60 odd views ..lol

yeah .. stumped me too as the only thing I've found are some swinging motorcycle pickups ..



-- Edited by DJD on Thursday 15th of August 2019 11:44:46 PM

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thinking there will be something industrial or a good millwright could knock one off from asst parts. how much psi you talking and why the 360 rotation? maybe try a hydraulic place and take that pic with you. they would get into stuff for old farm+construction machinery and industrial machines, thinking printing press's etc. with lots of moving parts. back to a good millwright, lol, there has to be a way to extend that swivel arm out in the pic to clear for the 360 and maybe try the company who's part that is, they might have one that clears.

 there ya go, my best shot.   i can't remember seeing something similar on the automotive side of it. "Next Problem"   lmao

 



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DJD


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LOL,
thanks for the thoughts..

I'm going to ask a buddy thats into bikes as to whether these swinging motorcycle pickups would handle the volume needed for a car engine .. then if so, I think I'll just work from there

I'm looking to build a "road race" oil pan for a fwd mopar - pan pic is just for illustration
(has already an added oil control deal but not the one I'm looking to use)

in addition to the typical trap door oil control in the bottom of the pan I also want to add a round "turret" below that which the pick up should stay submerged

2.5 mopars had twin balance shafts in the crankcase and a 4 litre oil pan
remove the unneeded balance shafts and you have a 7 litre pan .. with NO oil control but tons of room to build it in the pan

pick up is one of the motorcycle ones .. a 250-350 dollar part - so I guess that has the "custom made" thing covered
and maybe a little cheaper than having something done from scratch

 

https://www.crank-scrapers.com/Chrysler_2-2-2-5.html >> oil control I want to use / modify



-- Edited by DJD on Friday 16th of August 2019 01:05:32 PM

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before you spend that much, 250-350, there are lots of bike wreckers around. i think it will boil down to volume, pipe size, with a bike part. my evo motor runs about 32-34lbs when warm but lubricating a lot less moving parts. good luck

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Add a few more baffles to the oil side of the windage tray to control the slosh when cornering . don't go to crazy You just want to slow down the gravitational force throwing the oil from one side to the other it still needs to return freely when you pull out of the turn . A low friction swivel that can withstand high temp stuck  on the inlet of your pump is really a bad Idea and is only a a matter of when it will fail not if. 



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my 68 roadrunner had a 440 with a swing pickup moroso pan pump and pickup i bought the kit in hamilton around 1985

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"I'd swear mopar used to have a stock looking pickup tube with a swivel on the pick up pan at the end but I can find no trace they ever existed"

They absolutely did and I used to own one. These were used on the early race motors and I believe were made and sold by the Ramchargers. Back in the early 80's I bought mine at a swapmeet for $5.. The last one I saw at a swapmeet was tagged at $250. !!

These had a stopper so they wouldn't go a full 360 but that could have easily been removed. I don't believe they had any kind of seal (and neither do the Milodon ones - they rely on the oil level to maintain some degree of a seal. Think about it, a seal (usually an o-ring) would be resistance and would hinder the pickup from swivelling. The pivot on these was just two blocks of machined steel. The pickup tube was cut and each end brazed into the blocks.

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