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As I mentioned over on the Bantam thread, I just acquired a tow vehicle.  It is a 1962 Studebaker Lark Station Wagon.  The body is rock solid as is everything underneath.  Brakes and suspension have gotten a little tired over the past 57 years but the wagon only has 33K miles on it.  The engine purrs like a kitten and it rolls down the hiway effortlessly.  I have a lot of upgrades in mind for this winter.  Since it is going to be a tow car, I am installing all new springs and shocks.  To handle the extra load, disk brakes are going on the front end.  I want to pull the engine, get it checked over, cleaned and maybe hone the walls and replace rings.  Gaskets leak so refreshing the engine should solve that.  I intend to install Fitech EFI on the engine and a dual exhaust system.  This should improve fuel economy and maybe produce a little more power.  The engine is the original Studebaker V8 259.  A T5 will give us that overdrive for long hiway trips and a better low gear when pulling from a stop with the trailer load.  There are lots of other little things that I will feature as this thread continues.

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There is a disc brake kit available for these Studes.
Look for "Turner" brake kit.
You can just get the basics and buy the heavy stuff locally.
Save $$ exchange and shipping costs.

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www.turnerbrake.com/

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Actually that is exactly what I did. All I had to buy was the mounting brackets. Everything else is off the shelf at my local Car Quest.

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nice little wagon !!
throw us some more pics when you can please

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Very cool Warren....following

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That is a awesome wagon .   congratulations 



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I stripped out the interior including spare tire cover and side panels.

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With the rear seat removed, I then removed the seat belts.  I don't know haw they installed those bolts, but it took me almost an hour with a 30" torque wrench to get them out.

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Next came the front bench seat.  I will use these Chevelle buckets that I got from Shag.

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A few surprises, but not totally unexpected.  New floor pans and rockers are on order.

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I drained and removed the rad to allow the under carriage and engine bay to be steam cleaned.  Just makes it easier to install the new suspension pieces.

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The wagon will be painted a darkened shade of Kewanee green.

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We'll get this cleaned up and detailed.

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Since disk brakes are going on the front, a dual M/C is a must.

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Got rid of the Generator and regulator and will install a one wire alternator.

Just waiting for a few parts to arrive at the US drop point and we can progress with getting the mechanicals done.

The car will be going into the body shop in January to get that floor fixed and get painted.

 



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My '66 Stude has seat belts in the front seat but not in the back.
They were an option back then.
Also, it has the optional vinyl top but has the radio delete.
Fun cars, for sure.

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What we're working towards

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looks sweet as heck !!

only the sliding back roof could improve that

- yep ,I had the matchbox one as a kid I still even have the box - to bad it was blue though
but if you wanted to get it reprinted in green I'd have no issue lending it out

would be cool for the dashtop .. 'specially if you could find the car & paint it too

 

ah wait .. looking it up I see I'm off on the tail lamps by a couple of years..the M B one is a '65

https://www.google.com/search?q=matchbox+studebaker+lark+wagon&hl=en-GB&rlz=1Q1GGLD_enCA728CA728&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=ibVJCM3u02nfOM%253A%252CQWAlaqW60GcQ1M%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kT09DRVeyc712yzhauDQcLmSMGKBA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjFrNGzouDlAhUCUt8KHaSTBDsQ9QEwAHoECAgQBg#imgrc=Tmu6RhKuw6EkIM:&vet=1

 

dang I could sworn I was "younger" than that ...'65 

i used to be..



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wuga wrote:

What we're working towards

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This will look great Warren. I'm liking the green.



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Picked up a few things from my KINEK drop point yesterday.  Front/rear springs and shocks.  Front disk brakes, Moser axles and drums.  A full rubber set, window channels, and an HEI distributor.  Floor pans and rocker panels.  The triple carb set is for the Bantam.  Now to get to work.

Warren

 

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Great stuff.
Especially those rear axles, etc.

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Been progressing OK but slower then I wanted. With the car stripped as far as it is, I had the under carriage and engine bay power washed.

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I then had new rear leafs, front coils and gas shocks installed.  All the springs are rated police/taxi.

 

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When I got home, I installed front disk brakes.

 

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With the new suspension, the car sits about 4" higher.

 

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I am now tackling the rear axle hubs.  They are factory installed at 170 ft.lbs. and after 57 years they are really on there.  I had the puller at about 160 lbs when it pulled the bolt through the threads.  Maybe cheap Chinese junk, but I have ordered a forged steel one that may have more success.  Before the puller let go, I slammed the end of the bolt with a sledge hoping to shock the hub, but no such luck.  We will try with the better puller when it arrives next week.  In the meantime, liberal amounts of liquid wrench have been applied.  I will apply heat as a last resort.



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Undo the big nut on the tapered axle and drive around.
It works.

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Dave
I actually just read that on the Studebaker sight. Unfortunately, we now have about 6" of snow and I can't get out of my shop. If we get a reprieve, I'm gonna give it a try.
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Got my new Cal-Van hub puller. Man, this thing is a brute. Pulled the hubs in a flash. Once the drums, hubs and axles were out of the way, the backing plate which had a 1.25" center hole needed to be opened up to 2.75" to pass the new axle bearing through. I made a little tool comprising of an arbor, a 1.25" hole saw and a 2.75" hole saw. The center hole was actually slightly larger then the saw so I wrapped the saw with several layers of duct tape and it fit snugly. The 2.75" saw was mounted on the arbor but left enough thread for the 1.25" saw to mount inside. It acted as a perfect guide for the 2.75" saw to do it's work.  You can see the slug I cut out beside the drum.

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 I am now heading to town to pick up retainer bolts.  I ran out of fine thread bolts and did not want to reuse 57 year old bolts.

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a 4.25" center hole needed to be opened up to 2.75"


Anyhow, it's coming along nicely.
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Com'on Dave, you know what I meant. Edited!

Warren

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You are forgiven, my son.

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Cool project


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Love it .   great work 



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Been further dismantling the car.  Cut out the exhaust, a new dual stainless will be going back in.  Removed the driveshaft and tranny.  Man is that thing heavy.

 

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The new T5 arrived today.  It is three inches shorter so a new driveshaft is in the works.

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Most everything has been stripped out.  Should have the engine out of there this week.

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New floor pans and rockers.  Don't need the whole pan but these are really nicely made so we will use what we need.

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I also picked up a set of Buckets from Shag.  Will look good with that Hurst stick between.

 

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All these jobs are adding up, time wise and $$$$$$ wise.  I really want this on the road in 2020.  Probably won't be a complete interior and an epoxy primer paint job this year.

 

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Disconnected the clutch from the bell housing (bitch of a job) and got the engine out today, That sucker is heavy. Will take it for a mild rebuild maybe Thursday.

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There was a good Stude engine builder out by Ancaster.
Jack Greenhall?

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Been waiting for my body buddy to show up to do the floors and rockers, so in the meantime I repainted all the interior trim pieces and started to redye all the vinyl. Just had to get rid of the blue.

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DANG

"tan" never looked so good !!

odd how still modern the armrest surround areas are

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Have been working on a myriad of things.  Finished painting and dying all the interior pieces, still have to paint fixed pieces in the interior.

Floors all welded in and sealed.

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Engine bay pretty well cleaned up.  It is in nice shape.

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Getting the new shoes and cylinders on the rear brakes.  It appears that there were 12" drums installed on some 62s, mine are 11" so had to reorder since the parts book didn't differentiate.  Now we are back in business.

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Next I will paint all the door jambs and install new rubbers before the doors are put back on.

As an aside, I just got the new transmission/torque converter in stalled in the Bantam and got every thing back together.  This should look real good being towed behind the Stude.

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Warren

 



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Looks great Warren ! And the Stude floors look sharp too.

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Trying to stay away from the Covid-19 talk, so I will update progress on the wagon.

The car is getting down to basics

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I removed all the doors and tailgate and painted all the jambs

All metal surfaces inside will be painted to match the dark brown upholstery.

 

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The headliner was worse then I thought, brittle and prone to tear , so out it came.  This also makes installation of the windlace much easier.

That is not rust, it is the color of the sound deadner.

 

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In order to install the headliner, it is necessary to remove the wind shield.  I had a new rubber anyway and it is an easy out/in.

 

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While the glass is out and the dash top is off to install the new dash pad, I will paint the dash and repair the fuel gauge.

 

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I lucked out finding a brown steering wheel.  Old and crappy but it is brown.  I will paint the column.  Still have to get rid of the shifter.

 

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I also built an integrated tow hitch and got all new door rubbers installed.

Now I am stalled.  My headliner and carpet are being made but the plant is now closed until Apr.6 at the earliest.  The new piece for the fuel gauge is sitting on a dock.

I think my engine shop is closed, maybe find out tomorrow.

If I had all the pieces, This wagon would be back together in no time.

I'm running out of zip lock bags.

If I'm repeating myself on anything, it may be from talking to myself all day. (Stir crazy)

 

Warren



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Jeeezzusss Warren, you're making me feel old as hell! Where do you get the energy Bud?

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Wayne, I sent you a PM a while back, could you check and reply please.

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Holy.... you're a going concern.
It's coming along great.
When you're finished, I have a '51 Vicky that needs some help.
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If they unisolate me, I'll be there.
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Your PM didn't come through Warren. Nothing in my message box from you.

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Boy I'd love to be there and help. Just watching you work would be a marvel. No fear, you just dive right in. That car is going to be something else. As a novice, it is nice to see how things are done when done the right way. Thanks for posting all this Warren.

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Finally got my head liner and carpeting, problems with both. A local stitcher resolved both. I have tried installing the head liner but no luck, so the car will go up to a shop in Belleville to have it done and also to re-install the windshield. Motor/tranny are all ready to drop in, but I think I will wait until they install the windshield. Paint is finished and roof rack installed, but now I have decided to paint the roof insert a different color. Every time I need something, it seems to take forever. Motivation is waning but I will keep plugging along. Sorry, no pictures this time.
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Well, I thought I'd finally post some pictures to back up my last posting.  The exterior is pretty well finished.

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Found these backup lamps, a kinda rare option.

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The roof rack courtesy of Hotrod Steve and Roblin's

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The dash is wired, just waiting for the radio.

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Some buddies are supposed to be coming over this weekend to install the drive train.

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Then we can get the hood on.

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I have to wait until the end of September for the head liner and windshield installation as well as the door windows.  In the meantime, I will finish cleaning up the wiring from front to back, get the dash pad installed and finish the interior carpeting and seats once the tranny and shifter are properly located.

Warren



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Right on Warren.

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It's really coming together nicely Wuga.

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Engine, bell housing, clutch and T5 transmission are all bolted together. I dropped them in the engine bay and bolted the front mounts down. Using the floor jack, I lifted the tranny tail up to the floor, marked and cut the hole for the shifter. Shifter came up nicely through the hole. I loosely secured the cross member to the bottom of the bell housing. Even with the tranny jacked high, it appeared the cross member did not go all the way up to the frame and the ends to the floor. Is this the case, is the transmission too high or am I imagining things. Well. it is all installed. Encountered a problem at first, after bolting the cross member to the bottom of the bell housing and installing the bolts from the cross member to the frame, I was left with a 1/2" gap between cross member and frame. I checked but I had plenty of clearance between the tranny and the floor. Upon further inspection, I found an interference. Referring to the picture, I had cut out a circular hole for the shifter to come through, but I then discovered that the rectangular base of the Hurst shifter was hitting the floor. I cut the floor to allow the whole unit to come through and the cross member then installed properly and I still have good clearance between the tranny and the floor. I have a nice boot that will cover everything after I waterproof around the shifter. Also, the engine now sits in it's factory location with good clearances at the firewall and the intake is level.

Warren

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Sweet ! I got in. And the Stude looks wonderful. Nice Warren.

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Warren, haven't seen you for a while, hope you are doing fine.
Great job on the wagon!

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Thanks Gary.
We're doing great here except for maybe some extrajoint pains that come with old age. Do you still have the bat wing? Isn't that your wife's truck in your Avatar? Check out my other two previous builds here, The Bantam and Dog Spit if you haven't seen them before. When this Covid thing settles down, I want to hitch the Bantam trailer on the Stude and see the country. Would be great if we could get together some time.
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I will check out your builds!
The orange 48 was my wife's, I sold the 409 impala, it's down around moncton. I'm almost finished this one it's a 54 chev, 55 chev car dash, 53 buick head lights, 49 merc tail liights and a few other things.
I will have to post some pics one day.

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Car is looking great Warren, love to pop in and see it sometime before snow is here to stay.. If you find yourself near Campbellford,or even the Brighton offramp, I'm only 13 km north of the 401 exit # 509

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Hey Chris
You are welcome anytime. The car is currently in Belleville getting a headliner and windshield but should be home hopefully in about a week.
Warren

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wuga wrote:

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You are welcome anytime. The car is currently in Belleville getting a headliner and windshield but should be home hopefully in about a week.
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Star didn't want to do it, no time. It is over at SWE. Steve and Larry are doing the work. I dyed the buckets and they look great.
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