Fuel Cost

Livetodrive · MARKHAM, ONT

Fuel Cost

DJD · SCARBOROUGH, ONT

hopefully that thing that's outta control will be history next tuesday morning..

-- Edited by DJD on Friday 17th of September 2021 12:27:23 PM

Livetodrive · MARKHAM, ONT

You will have to excuse me for not holding my breath, I have not heard any of the party leaders proposing a reduction in revenues or even making do with what they are already getting.

DJD · SCARBOROUGH, ONT

yeah I hear you on that
but considering the brainwashed think carbon taxes will save the planet , right now , saying your going to do something that would "reduce that effort" would probably be a mistake

really what's likely the , THE one common cause to our current inflation rate..
the fuel cost getting stuff to the store for one..

jarvis1 · COBBLE HILL, BC

Out here on the Island our gas price just went down to 149.9
It is usually higher than Ontario.

DJD · SCARBOROUGH, ONT

it would help if the oil industry raised the price to 5 bucks a liter and said re-elect that fool and that's where the price will stay..

Lightspeed Mike · BELLEVILLE, ONT

The main depot where I pick up fuel for delivery was out of regular this weekend and last. I heard the same for one depot in Toronto. Supply and demand laws apply everywhere.

Smokin Joe · ONTARIO

My hassle is my 1930 car cost over $1.00 a mile to drive at these gas prices when I am only get 8 miles to the gallon.

jarvis1 · COBBLE HILL, BC

There's more to life than MPG.
Quote from the GMC motorhome group.

DJD · SCARBOROUGH, ONT

still waiting..
for the tracking feature installed in every new car turns into a road use fee
cough..

you know..handy info for the government to use ..just like your smart meter on the wall outside..

wuga · PRINCE EDWARD COUNTY, ONT

It's already in use. Insurance companies install trackers on the pretense that your driving habits will lower your insurance premiums. On the other hand, commercial vehicles pay basically a road use tax by being registered where they can buy fuel. Nothing wrong with user pays. I like smart meters, it keeps people like meter readers out of my property.
Warren

jarvis1 · COBBLE HILL, BC

Is there such a thing as a meter reader anymore?
Did they all get laid off? Or did we pay them a severance of some sort?
Should our electric bill go down because they are not working?
What vehicle did they use to make their rounds?
Another cost saving that we didn't get....
yada yada...

DJD · SCARBOROUGH, ONT

if you're buying a house there's something you wanna check for if it's a mid '60's or older home..

look for a fuse or circuit breaker ..for the water heater

my heater crapped out .. I called the repair guy from the heater rental outfit .. he came , said the heater checks out ok, where's the fuse or breaker..

we looked

there wasn't one

then the guy told me ..they used to be "flat rate" so it doesn't run through the hydro meter..

but you'll have to call hydro .. to come , pull the meter out of it's socket and change the fuse for you 'cause the fuse is outside in the meter box..

they came .. they changed the fuse .. yanked it out with a set of 3-4 foot long insolated tongs.. the put the new fuse in and left without changing anything else..

was nice to have free hot water ...,.

wuga · PRINCE EDWARD COUNTY, ONT

I don't know about BC, but I am in Alberta right now and there is something different about electric billing. In Ontario, there are three rates, discounted on weekends and between 7PM and 7AM, high at breakfast and supper and normal during the day. Informed people do heavy use during the discounted period. In Alberta there is only one rate all the time. Without smart meters, variable billing couldn't happen. As for the fused heater, I like user pays. And Dave, as for meter readers, they have been attritioned off. Some are still needed to drive the street to read the remote water and gas senders. The power meters all reports to a local central computer.
Warren

Livetodrive · MARKHAM, ONT

Now thats funny, just the right amount of subtle!

DJD · SCARBOROUGH, ONT

yep user pays works well

especially if user pays to much .. for to long

my parents had out house built back in 66-67, dad paid the bills every month etc etc..
then he learned how the water billing worked
see 2/3's the cost is for grey water return / sewage... we had a septic tank .. no hook up to the sewer.. as there was none in the street out front..
so
credit..
for years and years..

for new fresh water.. but at the old already pre paid price..

I think it was 10 - 12 years before we got a water bill for anything above ZERO..

sigh.. I miss that house..

DJD · SCARBOROUGH, ONT

ya know what I don't like ?

american owned wind turbines here in ontario.. ones that we find out about when one falls down..
the same ones connected to OUR hydro grid .. generating hydro we don't need but pay...pay the americans to take off our hands..

???????????????????????????

EH

wuga · PRINCE EDWARD COUNTY, ONT

Not just American. most of them are owned like the 407 by Spanish and German companies. The great over priced renewable energy working for Canadians? HUH? HUH?
Warren

shag766 · FOXBORO, ONT

jarvis1 wrote:
There's more to life than MPG.
Quote from the GMC motorhome group.

X2-lol

it is something like my bike insurance for the last 4 or 5 years. i figure it is about .65 to .75 cents a mile for the riding i do anymore, but i still pay it every year. that one is cheap compared to insurance on the old cars per mile for 3 cars vs total mileage. that would be well over a buck per mile vs total mileage on 3.

it's hard to put a price on smiles and grins especially with a hobby guys.

shag766 · FOXBORO, ONT

Lightspeed Mike wrote:
The main depot where I pick up fuel for delivery was out of regular this weekend and last. I heard the same for one depot in Toronto. Supply and demand laws apply everywhere.

what were they saying for a reason mike, just curious. years ago when i hauled fuels it happened once or twice but they said the line was down for repairs. i am guessing today it would be on the supply end of it.

flatblack55delivery · PORT HOPE, ONT

The station I use has been out of regular twice in the last month . Huge crowd getting premium
at the price of regular both times. Wonder if the delivery was delayed or was the previous light for some reason.
You would think they would have this delivery schedule down pat. Ed

Redneck Rydes · TRENTON, ONT & SOUTH CAROLINA

Trenton gas 1.27 a litre, I drove 11 kms to Brighton to go shopping gas there 1.37 a litre what the He!!

Livetodrive · MARKHAM, ONT

My bet is, with the election complete, $1.35 is gonna seem like a good deal in a few months. Hope I'm wrong, I've mentioned before, I like to think I'm a die hard car guy but at $140 for a tank of premium I'm looking for the exit!

DJD · SCARBOROUGH, ONT

I have a work around..

back in '88 I bought a plymouth turismo.. same thing as an 80's charger ..basically a 2 door dodge omni..

it got 42 mpg (imperial) but the motor ..and not much else died really early

soo
it got converted to a 2.2 turbo efi motor and every piece found in a shelby charger was added

I threw a mopar performance computer and camshaft at it bumping the boost from 7/8 pounds to 11-12 pounds

with the 3:05 final drive ratio carb car trans still in it I got 46 mpg..average

-prob about 200-210 hp ..stock early turbo 2.2 was 146 hp

average means while beating the XXXX outta it daily

if I'd driven it like a granny it would have got well over fifty mpg easily..

yeah ..not kidding

and lucky for me I found & bought THIS a few years ago..

though the mileage is going to likely be much lower as this one's going to make 400 odd horsepower with the doo dads I've collected ..(heh heh)

Livetodrive · MARKHAM, ONT

I had a couple of Shelby Daytonas, they were fun but Turbo cars all have the same issue. The physics of turbocharging demands premium fuel ($1.75 litre) to support the extra performance. I worked at Mills & Hadwin when these were new and saw it time and again. The Turbo II is tuned so knife edge that even installing the wrong muffler will cause it to run lean and melt pistons. At wide open throttle, it ignores the O2 sensor and just runs full fuel pump pressure with full injector pulse width. Wrong backpressure or a small vacuum leak (usually from the injector seals) was lethal. I replaced mine with an SRT 4 Neon, 225 HP with an LSD and no mufflers right from the factory. It was terrible as a daily driver in the winter though!

shag766 · FOXBORO, ONT

Livetodrive wrote:
My bet is, with the election complete, $1.35 is gonna seem like a good deal in a few months. Hope I'm wrong, I've mentioned before, I like to think I'm a die hard car guy but at $140 for a tank of premium I'm looking for the exit!

i am in agreement on the 1.35 will seem cheap before too long. the way this is going with electric car's coming on hard they still need the road tax money from gas sales to maintain the roads. the hst stuff they will still get on the power bills but there is quite a bit of road tax wrapped up in that 1.35. i would think plates will take a hike also for the provinces chunk of the pot.

our lives are about to see a quick change before too long from how most of us were raised in this car hobby. i don't know if i am looking for the exit just yet but i will be going down to 2 cars from 4 and 1 bike from 2 for a start. as long as i have my license i will likely have my 50 truck as i inherited it but i can see no bike before long as there are just too many idiot a-holes out there any more and i find you have to pay to much attention driving not just for your protection let alone quessing which is the biggest idiot beside me. it's not as big of a grin anymore is all.

shag766 · FOXBORO, ONT

Redneck Rydes wrote:
Trenton gas 1.27 a litre, I drove 11 kms to Brighton to go shopping gas there 1.37 a litre what the He!!

trenton has always been the cheaper place around this area for a long time now. i am thinking it goes back to when the guys in the military didn't actually make very good wages for a long time. they started getting much better maybe 10-15 years ago now.

Livetodrive · MARKHAM, ONT

I think Shag summed it up pretty good "it's not as big of a grin anymore is all".

DJD · SCARBOROUGH, ONT

no they need the extra tax money to cover the BILLIONS junk head has GIVEN AWAY to other countries and African war lords over the past 6 years..

saving the planet is just a rouse to get it

wuga · PRINCE EDWARD COUNTY, ONT

If you want political bashing, go over to the other site. This horse has been beaten dead.
Warren

DJD · SCARBOROUGH, ONT

not bashing ..just stating fact .. new generosities require new way to pay for them

not until we become wise enough to create a party whose sole purpose is to become elected and change the system to a PARTY FREE one well we see change

electing a representative of a party isn't democracy.. it's control by the elite

and we wonder why these people don't represent "us" but instead every OTHER interest under the sun

the party system only creates division .. it's intended to
it creates the illusion of we / they ,..win / lose..

while nothing actually changes...

reading the comments in the comment sections of the paper I have to laugh..
people thinking they won .. or the other's lost .. REALLY?

'cause .. it seems no matter who "wins"...we all lose ..every time

that wouldn't be so if WE had representation..rather than organized groups with their own agenda

like being in school
and the only candidates for student council come from either the football team or the rowing club..
yeah good luck to you if you're in the chess club or A/V club..

flatblack55delivery · PORT HOPE, ONT

I really don't give a rats ass about anyone's political opinions on this site . I don't care what party you support,
or vax or not. I come here for car stuff. I get my fill of political stuff on my other sites.
I am on many political sites for politics , this is my step away from them. I can understand
political comments directly related to automotive issues, laws , safety, enforcement , that kind
of thing but geese please leave the other crap off . Ed

poncho62 · ADMINISTRATOR

Well said Ed....I also am on a couple of political forums. A Canadian one I am on is

forums.canadiancontent.net

for those on here like like to argue.....lol

-- Edited by poncho62 on Sunday 26th of September 2021 12:39:54 PM

TIME TRAVELLER · NIAGARA REGION, ONT

I’m with Ed and Poncho. This place is a wealth of knowledge and skills that amateurs like me really need. I get all the politics and other nonsense that goes with it every time I open a newspaper or turn on the TV. Let’s stick with cars and leave the drama somewhere else. Enough already.

shag766 · FOXBORO, ONT

flatblack55delivery wrote:
I really don't give a rats ass about anyone's political opinions on this site . I don't care what party you support,
or vax or not. I come here for car stuff. I get my fill of political stuff on my other sites.
I am on many political sites for politics , this is my step away from them. I can understand
political comments directly related to automotive issues, laws , safety, enforcement , that kind
of thing but geese please leave the other crap off . Ed

that's it pretty much in a nut shell ed. thanks bud.

Redneck Rydes · TRENTON, ONT & SOUTH CAROLINA

X2

jarvis1 · COBBLE HILL, BC

Getting back to the original title...
It looks like England is having a fuel problem.

flatblack55delivery · PORT HOPE, ONT

I believe it is a driver problem . E.U. drivers are evidently not allowed
to operate in England due to Brexit agreements, as I understand it they
need British drivers to operate the trucks and evidently there aren't enough of them. Ed

Livetodrive · MARKHAM, ONT

No wonder they are in short supply, when I was there they were driving on the wrong side of the road all the time!