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PRINCE EDWARD COUNTY, ONT

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It's Christmas and I just acquired this 1931 Ford Model A roadster Pickup.  It is a driver, but I have lots of plans even though it will remain a four banger.  It is currently in Edmonton and I haven't figured out how it is going to get here.  I have several options, hire an enclosed transport, load it at some location and meet it in Ontario where I will have to haul it home from some place between Mississauga and Pickering.  Otherwise, I can put it in storage until the spring, drive out with my trailer and haul it home.  I am heading out to Edmonton on Tuesday, will look around at various hauler and storage facilities and decide then.

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what are the plans for it

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Engine was just rebuilt with insert bearings and high compression head. I have a down draft intake and headers and electronic ignition. When it gets home, I will order a Mitchel fully synchroed tranny and over drive unit. Posies super slider springs with a 2" drop and I have a set of 16" wheels. I will install a set of Coker 'Firestone' bias ply tires. Also I will replace the seat with a school bus seat to give me more leg room. After that, drive it.
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Leave it there until the summer. When you come out for Duece Days, pick it up on your way home.

What is the temperature in Edmonton now?

Wear your woolies...



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KNWZ4890.JPGIMG_1367.JPGIMG_1403.JPGWarren, I just had a '30 Model A coupe transported in from Lethbridge, Alberta. I used TFX, they delivered it door to door no hassles. Having said that, their price has jumped 50% since 2018 when I had them transport a '65 GTO from Tappen B.C. to Ontario. Unless I was going that way to visit family or friends, I wouldn't do it any other way. With the cost of fuel, meals, and lodging, you would spend the cost of TFX anyway. Never mind the risk factor of towing, the driving time, and the possibilities of breakdowns. Haven't even talked about the cost of storage (unless you know someone with storage facilities) till the summertime. To me it is a no brainer.



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Nice score Wuga

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Very cool, Looking forward to seeing it!

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One of the kids on the street when I was a kid was named Bob and he now owns a trucking company in Edmonton or Calgary or somewhere out there so I sent him a note asking if he could help you out Warren but I'm still waiting for a reply.

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Well, a bit of an update. I found a company, Automoves, who transport to Mississauga. They were a little suspect, but their prices were almost half of others and they would take a roadster in the winter and didn't care if it was running. I figured if I kept a close eye on them, I could control the situation. They have a great warehouse in Edmonton and they let me store the car there for a month before I was ready to send it east.

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I dropped the car off into this warm dry environment, dropped by occasionally to check on it and to fill the box with extra parts that I had accumulated.  When I was ready to come home, I told them to load and ship.  The car arrived 8 days later at their Mississauga warehouse.  We were in the middle of a snow storm so I had them hold the car for a few days, again in a protected environment.  I went with my lollipop trailer and picked it up.  These guys were great.  I had to remove my winch to accommodate the length of the car so they helped me load and secure it.  Before long I was on my way home.

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When I left there, I immediately headed to Roblin's Garage in Prince Edward County.  For those of you who are not familiar with Lawrence Roblin, he is in his 80s and still working a full day 6 days a week.  He has barns full of every imaginable part you can think of and he ships all over the world.  Anyway, he is the perfect person to do my safety.

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You're going to need a hand carrying that transmission into the truck when it comes. Let me know and I will come and lend a hand. I'm not that smart but I know how to lug. And I could help with whatever else while I'm there. Let me know. Nice car / truck !



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Good looking truck Warren ,still wearing the mechanical brakes ?? Here is my 27 RPU  flathead  60hp , 37 axles , 40 hydralic bra20181008_112540.jpg20181008_112553.jpgkes , 18 inch 32 ford wires , 



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Yes Joe, I have something to aspire to. Awesome! I'm sticking with the mech. brakes, installed a set of Flathead Ted's brake energizers. It has been upgraded to 12V, I am waiting for my Posie's reversed eye springs, the 16" wheels are currently getting blasted and powder coated and 16" bias from Coker won't be available until the end of June. When I drop the rear end for the spring, I will install the AA bell housing, the Jeep T5 and the shortened torque Tube/driveshaft with adaptor. Actually, that will probably happen after the driving season this year. I have my downdraft intake with the 97 and a set of header ready to install, maybe tomorrow. Pictures to follow soon.
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Sounds like your on top of it Warren ,gonna be a great ride .

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IMG_2650.JPGHere is my "I'll get to it some day project. "27ChevyR/P . Ya I am that guy. Ed



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The electrical system has been upgraded to 12V, neg ground.  New battery installed, 12V coil, all new bulbs and 12V alternator.  

 

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The car has mechanical brakes.  There are new drums but the shoes left something wanting.  Lawrence riveted new linings on the shoes.

 

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A Flathead Ted brake upgrade kit has been installed along with new seals and bearings.

 

 

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The stock seat was too much leaving little or no legroom and getting in and out was a contortionist's nightmare.  I have install this seat from a school bus and after I cut down the back, it will slip under the body lip and give me even more leg room.

 

 

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I am going over to Wellesley Island, NY to pick up 12 shipments on Tuesday, so the project will start in earnest.  I am also driving to Montreal the same day to pick up the Jeep T5 custom built to fit the AA bell housing.  Should be a very rewarding 10 hour drive.

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Thank you for the updates ! It's going to be something else.

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You would think it would be easy.  I had my bill of sale, an appraisal, insurance an they said at Service Ontario "no way", you need a better paper trail of previous ownership.  So after multiple conversations with the fellow I bought it from, he finally came up with a torn ownership and bill of sale in Alberta from 8 years ago.  He sent me what he had.  I wrote an affidavit outlining the history of sales of the vehicle and along with all the paper work, I returned to Service Ontario.  The woman I was talking with was on the phone to I presume Toronto for over 1/2 hour and finally when she came off the phone, she said OK, we can plate it, but you must have the truck weighed first.  What, a 90 year old truck with less capacity then a Honda!  I asked her how I would get the truck to the weigh station without plates, she said have it towed.  I was to spend $100 to get it weighed?  I went home, started the truck, drove it to the weigh station, got my official weight, 2020 lbs, and went back to service Ontario the next day.  They actually gave me the plates, but not before they collected the HST.

Today it is raining, so I am working on the truck in the shop.  I got my Riley side cover on.

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I got the Red's headers, the Ansen intake and the 97 installed with choke.

 

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I installed a small low pressure electric fuel pump.

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The seat is cut down and works much better.  It will probably get a proper upholstery job next winter.

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As we all know, model A doors never stay closed, so I found these nice door pins that were really easy to install and they work.

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To keep the doors from hitting the fenders I installed a set of door straps I found in my collection.

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And finally I did an oil change with the green oil, Brad Penn.

Car starts and runs great.  Had it up to 50 MPH going in for the weigh.

Nuff said, time for a beer.

Warren



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I like the door straps and the linkage on the carb. Where did you find the Brad Penn ? Walmart listed having it but when I got there, they didn't have a single one left. Door pins look nice and solid. Cool, Warren.

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Thank you Warren. I will check not out. Please post the link.



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Started teardown today. Got the fenders, box and bumper off. Got some help coming over to lift the body. All this is in preparation to install new flywheel, clutch and T5 five speed. Tired of no down shifting and crunching gears.  Haven't quite decided if I'm leaving it hi-boy or not but was trying a new light bar.

Warren

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Help came yesterday and in short order we had the body off

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The rear end was out

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original tranny, clutch and flywheel were removed

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anything else that was in the way like mechanical brake actuators etc.

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and the new flywheel was test fitted.  It will be going out with the pressure plate for balancing

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Time now to start any cleanup and touchup that need to be done, remove the center cross member for clearance of the T5 and then reposition that cross member.  I'd rather do that then cut the cross member.  I think I have every thing worked out, at least in my head.  I just hope I can work around the emergency actuator without having to change any geometry.

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Seasons Greetings everyone. I hope everyone made it safely through this crazy weather. A little update. I have decided to run hiboy, so all fender and running board braces have been removed. The center cross member has been relocated 4" rearward leaving all the brake actuators working, but I do have to shorten the e-brake brace. The Coker tires have been impossible to find with no anticipated delivery date, so I decided to go with Diamond Back Auburn tires which also have been on back order for months, but I located a set in Bracebridge. I have installed the rear Posie's spring and I made a spreader bar for the front. The next task is to shorten the torque tube/drive shaft and radius rods. A few other changes that I have decided to go with are cast iron brake drums (better heat dissipation), an F100 steering box for a better steering ratio, bomber seats ( I didn't like the look of the bus seat) and I just received a 40 Ford steering wheel (2" smaller, easier to get behind). So things are progressing, I only hope we are back on the road this Spring.
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nice project, Mister
Seasons greetings to you as well

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Thanks for posting. Nice build. It might not always seem like it but we are following along. Happy New Year!

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Thanks for following guys. I'm always doing something but not necessarily post or picture worthy. Yesterday I drove up to Bracebridge to get my Diamond Back tires and have them mounted to 16" 1935 Ford rims. Only three got done since they couldn't balance one rim. Last weekend I was installing the new flywheel when one of the flywheel bolts sheered, I just spent four hours getting the remains of that bolt out of the crank without damaging the crank.

Happy New Year everyone
Warren

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Great looking build Warren, I really need to come meet you and see some of this great stuff in person one day...

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Chris, you are welcome anytime. Perhaps you can pick up cuddles one day and come on down.
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"I only hope we are back on the road this Spring" ? Ha ! The way you work, your ride will be pushing on the garage door in a few weeks ! I'll bring Chris down in the Spring when either of my rides are back on the road if Chris and you have the time.

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Nice project!!!

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Got my flywheel, clutch and transmission installed.  The flywheel is from Burtz, it is 30 lbs. compared to stock 64 lbs.  Motor will be more responsive.  The clutch assembly is a 9" flathead V8 pressure plate and disk.  The transmission is a T5 from a 1985 Jeep.  It is the shortest T5 made.  The shifter stick is Lokar mounted on a Kato King short throw shifter assembly.  A Kato King adaptor mating the Jeep output to a closed drive shaft.

 

 

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I relocated the cross member 2.625" rearward to allow the transmission to fit.  The common practice is to notch the cross member, but I wanted to retain the full strength of the cross member.  A few small issues arose; the brace for the e-brake shaft to the cross member needed to be shortened, end gusset plates needed to be added to the ends of the cross member to allow for the frame rails getting wider and access is limited if I ever have to remove the tranny.  The body will have to come off again.

 

 

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I was going to use a banjo wheel, but I like the look of the smaller 40 Ford wheel better.  Suits the style of the car.  The wheel sits atop a Randy Gross modified F100 steering box.  Much better ratio for this man's tired old body.  Pedals are all mounted, just awaiting a new clutch shaft arm.

 

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The drive shaft and torque tube have been shortened 7" to account for the longer transmission.  Radius rods will be fitted this week.  The shop manuals tell you to dismantle the rearend and remove the pinion gear/drive shaft through the side of the center section.  I purchased a tool from Mitchell Transmission which pulls the pinion out and re-installs it without touching the axles.  This is one of the nicest tools in both construction and utility I have ever seen.  I know people have fabbed similar tools but they all look pretty crude.

 

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New cast Iron drums and bonded linings from Randy Gross are on all four corners.  A lot less brake fade.

 

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The Diamond Back Auburn radials with bias ply look are mounted on the 1935 16" powder coated wheels and capped with a non V8 center cap.  The spreader bar is fitted.  I am installing small LED markers in the ends to act as turn signals.  The dropped head light bar completes the look.

 

Finishing the install of the brake shafts and the cross member can't be done until the rear-end/torque tube is installed.  I think we're starting to make good headway.

Probably forgot a few things.

Thanks for following

Warren



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Nice work Mister

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Here I thought making a poor rendition of a door catch was small and fiddly, meanwhile you "relocated the cross member 2.625". I'll have to live another hundred years to learn half of what you know. But it's nice to see how to do things right.

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Got the bungs welded into the radius rods and mounted.

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With that done, I installed the rearend/driveshaft. It just slid right in there.

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I reinstalled the cross member, the brake shaft and the e-brake shaft.  The brake shaft needed to be reconfigured to clear the transmission

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The e-brake handle was originally mounted on the passenger side of the transmission. The T5 did not have the facility for this, but I wanted to keep the geometry the same so I designed a mounting plate that took advantage of bolts on the T5. I drew what I wanted and ‘Lightspeed Mike’ did a phenomenal job of cutting it on his plasma table. I bent and drilled the fingers and it fit like a charm.

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Bob (RWW) dropped by Sunday and welded up a bunch of stuff for me (I am a lousy welder) including a repair on the brake shaft, the bungs in the radius rods, mounting nuts on the e-brake plate, the brace for the e-brake shaft and the actuator arm on the e-brake shaft.

The front spring has been swapped out for a Posie’s reversed eye.  I reworked the headlight bar so it sat proper.

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I got bomber seat sides from Hells Gate, cobbled together with plywood and upholstered.  They also came with risers that needed to be reworked.

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I am waiting for two wheels to be powder coated for the rear and then the body will be mounted.  I believe I will have to shorten the steering column and probably adjust a few other pieces.

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Everything is more than impressive, as usual. Anxious to see the turn signals and I really liked the e-brake mount. When you say that the rear end/driveshaft - just slid right in there, that says so much. Satisfaction. Where did you get the seatbelts ? Another show winner Warren.

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nice work Mister

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Because I moved the cross member back, the brake light switch moved with it. The switch is activated by the back end of the brake rod and now it wasn't long enough. Also, it wasn't adjustable so I modified the rod to have an adjustable surface on it and now the switch works.

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The events I want to attend demand seat belts and it is just a good idea when driving on the street.  I made up this brace that bolts to the frame and the floor of the car.  It also bolts to the body wood and stiffens everything up.

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Now to install the seats, check all nuts and cotter pins, finish the wiring connections, hook up the battery and a couple to Tremclad touchups.

Warren



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Haven't started it yet, but everything else is pretty well buttoned up. Let's go for a walk around the car.

Warren

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Looking pretty damn cool!!!

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Looks good.
How did you get plates without a safety?

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I had a full safety by Lawrence Roblin and boy is he a stickler for detail. I'm sure it is the safest Model A anywhere.
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A legitimate safety without fenders in Ontario - do tell winkwinkwinkwinkwinkwinkwinkwinkwinkbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinsmilesmilesmilesmile



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The safety was done a year ago. That's the beauty of safties in Ontario. They only get done once until the car is sold. And don't start the fender thing all over again. This has raged on forever and the last time anyone was charged was twenty years ago and the charges were thrown out. Just don't be stupid and throw rooster tails or scatter gravel. Ask the thousands of fenderless hot rod owners who have been driving that way forever. But, thanks for the previous compliments.
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it was just a poke - no harm no foul lol

Its a nice truck

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It looks so bare. The spare in the back is a nice touch. I will do my seatbelts the same once I get some. Did you make the leather door straps ? And you said it wouldn't be ready for the road this year. It sure doesn't take you long. Quality work done fast. That's a rare breed. Very Nice Warren. You must be so pleased.

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Love it Warren,you're gonna have a ball with that little truck!

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I've been driving the snot out of it this summer. Took it to the dirt drags in Round Top NY and had a ball. It has been featured in the Nov. 6 Old Autos. Might be looking for a little more HP this winter. We'll see where that goes.
Warren

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LOVE IT!!

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That things awesome Warren.

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More pics

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