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sasquatch wrote:

Just bein nosey checking out the background in the pics of your'e shop, wondering,, is that a Logan or Rockwell metal lathe, and i noticed you also have a mill/drill there also. Lol

Shop stuff always attracts interest!!


Its a West Bend 9" lathe.

The mill was busy bee and has been sold. There is now a nice Bridgeport in one corner of the garage.



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when i was planning my rat truck frame, i considered using eighth wall tubing but instead i used three sixteen wall, i was concerned my truck wouldnt be heavy enough and might be wonky to drive.  have you thought of this?  you appear to be using eighth wall.  you rod might be pretty light but it looks like it will be like a sports car with higher tech suspension than my build so there may be no need to add weight.


 Hey stax.

My car will have no lightness problems. The New Yorker has a 128" wheel base, its huge. It should be 4000 lbs by the time I'm done.

BTW, wonky to drive = my ultimate goal.

I'm hoping for 600 FT/LBS and 500 HP.



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I started on the rear lower control arms.

The cast aluminum would have been OK except they had no set up for coil overs.

I started with some sched 80 s/s pipe for the pivot tubes. The bushings are aftermarket Delrin.

I had to weld in some 14 ga s/s sleeves to get them sized just right.

 

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I had a couple of pieces of 1-1/2" round 1/8 wall tube bent to shape. I made a jig using the stock control arm to get things dead on.

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I added two cross braces to really stiffen things up.

 

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Had to get coilover mounts and sway bar link hook up points done next.

 

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Danm, cna't type rihgt, I'm slobbreing all ovre the kyeboard.

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Iwannagofast wrote:

Danm, cna't type rihgt, I'm slobbreing all ovre the kyeboard.


 LOL ......!!!!!

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Beautiful workmanship,, and excellent photos!!

P.S. Your'e metal lathe MUST be a "South Bend" not a "West Bend" Lol

(They made coffee pots.)

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Dang Pugsy, you don't mess around!! Words simply can't describe how great your chassis is coming out.   



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Thanks Guys.

BTW, my milling machine is actually a Cuisinart, but I said Bridgeport to try to keep it sounding cool.

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The next order of business was the front kick ups.

 

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More of the same....

 

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Crossmember was next....

 

 

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More crossmember......

 

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Crossmember continued...

 

 

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Now that my friends is a beautiful thing!!

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Thanks Adam.

The next order of business was to make the upper control arms.

First thing was to get a computer program for checking the front end geometry.

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Found these screw in ball joint sleeves at Horton's. I couldn't weld the steel to my stainless arms, so I got some more sched 80to wrap them in.

Bored them out and chamfered.

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Sqeezed them into place....

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Welded them up with s/s rod.

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A couple of pieces of s/s pipe for the pivot sleeves and made up a jig. I had some 1" diameter, 1/8 wall tube bent up for these.

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The sleeves warped like crazy from the welding. I joined two files together to hog out as much of the warped material as possible.

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Lower control arm ball joint sleeves. I'm using stock Cobra press in ball joints.

 

 

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This pic shows the nice fit after pressing in a ball joint and taking it out.

 

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Here's something funny. I started my lower arms and thought I had really nailed a great design.

Of coarse if the car only went straight they'd be wonderful.

 

 

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How's that for clearance?

 

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Upper control arms welded and polished after hand reaming for hours to true up the sleeves for the bushings.  I gave up trying to get them all the same. I now have a log of all the different sized bushings in case they need replaced.

 

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The upper arm mount plates are 1/2'' s/s with slots to adjust caster. Camber is adjusted by adding equal amount of shims behind the plate front and rear.

 

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Coilover mounts.

 

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nothing to say but damn thats turning into one killer frame.Almost a shame to put a car on top of it.

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You have me drooling with all your beautiful fab work.

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Of coarse matching motor mounts were in order...........

 

 

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Of coarse by this time in, I was due for another screw up.  I needed three U joints to get the steering shaft around the mounts so it was time for some new ones.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Transmission crossmember.............

 

 

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Gotta love stainless. It warps like crazy. If you scroll back 2 pics you'll see how warped the crossmember is. Clamped and heated and squeezed with the clamps until it straightened out.

 

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Mount bracket for the....................

 

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Gearvendors overdrive behind the 4L80E overdrive tranny. 

This allows me to weld the crossmember in as I can drop the tranny by first removing the Gearvendors unit.

 

 

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Agreed, can't say much more than damned nice work!!

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Thanks Guys.

 

Drilled holes for the upper arm plates and inserted anti crush sleeves into the tube.

 

 

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I got the idea for these adjusting washers from my IRS upper control arm bolts. The bolt has a built in washer on an eccentric. I didn't want to weld to a bolt and weaken it so I figured just a washer would do. I cut the haeds off some allan bolts and tacked them in so the alignment guy can tweak on them a little by little and move the upper arm forward or back.

 

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ROLLING (but not complete) CHASSIS....................

 

 

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More of the same..........

 

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Front body mounts...........

 

 

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Radiator.............

 

Made some aluminum ears for two pieces of 1/4'' side plates that will get welded to the sides of the rad to spread the load of the mounting. Don't want to be far from home when the side of the rad splits from the piece I welded on.

 

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Back to the body.

Next order of business was to stiffen up the engine compartment opening.

Started with some brake formed angles. A bit of stretching and shrinking and the parts were ready to weld.

The last pic shows how I'd like to finish the rim off.

 

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I made up a jig to tack in the headlight plates and to try to get everything straight and true this time.

 

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Got the headlight plates welded and one side cleaned up yesterday.

I  installed one headlight to see how she'd look......

 

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I liked what I saw so much that I went ahead and cut the second hole out.

(I also need the hole to help planish the weld.)

 

 

 

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That's got the project thread right up to date up until about an hour and a half ago.

 

Thanks for gawkin at me build,

 

 

 

 

 



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Beautiful piece of workmanship!!!

Thanks for posting all the great pics of this build, interesting and enjoyable !

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I love how you fab everything yourself. Everything looks amazing!

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You never did mention what engine you were running ! Please, please, please don't tell me it's Chev or Ford powered?? All that work, this car must be Chrysler powered !! It would make it faster too !

 

Edit; Never mind ! I read an earlier post you made and noticed you were using a 4l80E. I'm crushed !! LOL

I really wanted to see something like a 6.1 Hemi in it The price of stainless will go through the roof because you've used it all in that frame. I keep away from stainless because that's one material I hate working with. Will interesting to see how it handles the stresses of the frame. Nice work !!



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AMAZING ! ABSOFORKINGLUTLY AMAZING!



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Thanks Guys.

Its a labour of love. I love to get away from the wife and keep tapping away in the garage.

I'll never make a living at it. I'm still trying to get my head around this shaping business 4 years later.

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Sorry,

Engine will be a 496 stroker. Sequential fuel injection using an LSx ECM. I got an Edelbrock Pro Flo XT for the top and aluminum GM Performance (read Edelbrock) oval port heads. Will be a mild cam and stock convertor. Looking for a boat load of torque. Horsepower doesn't matter. That's a word that's not in my vocabulary. confuse

I was gonna go with a 6.1 Hemi but I'm a loyal Chevy guy. It hurt enough draggin a Chrysler home and shoving it in the garage. no

So, its pretty good that I've got the Big Three covered on this build. I've also got some Harley Davidson parts going into the build to make sure its really well rounded and I have the best of all the players.



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Wow Pugsy!

With those headlights mounted the shape of the front clip looks very sexy! Can't wait to see it back on the car.  Now get back in the shop to get some more work done ... to keep the photos coming.  smilesmilesmile



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I was gonna go with a 6.1 Hemi but I'm a loyal Chevy guy. It hurt enough draggin a Chrysler home and shoving it in the garage. no

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Well we can't all be perfect !! LOL  I guess that's the difference between Chevy and Mopar guys. I'm a loyal Mopar guy, and would have a difficult time putting a Chev in my shop.

 



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I'm glad I went with the Chrysler though even if I'm a Chevy fan.

There sure aren't many out there so no one's gonna have the same car. With the custom snout, it'll be a one of a kind so that's even better.

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AMAZING ! ABSOFORKINGLUTLY AMAZING!



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Wow Pugsy!

With those headlights mounted the shape of the front clip looks very sexy! Can't wait to see it back on the car.  Now get back in the shop to get some more work done ... to keep the photos coming.  smilesmilesmile


 Thanks Nick.

Its nice to see a change in the project.

Now I just got to go use the hole I made for the headlight pot to start planishing again. I got about a million hours of metal finishing to do now....no



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123pugsy wrote:
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AMAZING ! ABSOFORKINGLUTLY AMAZING!

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x2    You should really get a job doing this   winkwink

 



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427CARL wrote:
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AMAZING ! ABSOFORKINGLUTLY AMAZING!

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x2    You should really get a job doing this   winkwink

 


Thanks Carl.

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Pugsy,

Your right.....I have people tell me all the time to build full time..........but........ People dont want to pay $65-70 p/h

There are only so many whales that can afford too....and I haven't found one yet!

So....like you I build for myself and a select few friends.

You have amazing skills and I wont miss your class next year......gotta love stainless tig work.....amazing absofreeknlutly amazing.

Builders like you make me strive to build better !

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WOW -- I really don't know what else to say. Thanks for sharing. Really gotta love this site!

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now thats a beautiful looking front end if ive ever seen one

 
 I can offically say Ive been taught by one of the greats


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