1941 NEW YORKER

hemi43 · ONTARIO

RE: 1941 NEW YORKER

123pugsy · MARKHAM, ONT

JohnnyBgood wrote:
You never realize how bad your own metal work is till you see stuff like this...think im going to stop posting my crap... Very nicely done...and everyfrigingthing fits like is should.....good on ya.

Thanks Johnny.

123pugsy · MARKHAM, ONT

hemi43 wrote:
That's some pretty nice work there, Pugsy !! Hope you plan on sharing some secrets at the metal meet, cause I'm gonna have some questions !!

Thanks Dan.

All secrets will be revealed at the meet.

Just don't forget to ask as I can't remember anything these days. confuse

Ninop69 · THORNHILL, ONT

UN FREEEEKKIN BELEEEEVABLLLE WOW!!! Just picking my jaw up off the floor!!! That is an AMAZING build! I can't wait to see this in person! Great work Pugsy, thanks so much for sharing.

123pugsy · MARKHAM, ONT

Thanks Nino.

hemi43 · ONTARIO

How about some pictures after dipping!

123pugsy · MARKHAM, ONT

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123pugsy · MARKHAM, ONT

Should have posted sooner but still a little out of it. Can't seem to get back into it.

It's pretty cool.

Took the solder right off the car.

Schnitz · MILTON, ONT

Thanks again for sharing. I for one have gone through this thread a dozen times.

123pugsy · MARKHAM, ONT

Schnitz wrote:
Thanks again for sharing. I for one have gone through this thread a dozen times.

You're welcome Schnitz.

Thanks for the interest in my build.

123pugsy · MARKHAM, ONT

I went out to clean her up some and discovered she's got warts.

They all run front to back with the car, not necessarily to how the panels were stamped from the sheet. Maybe bits of solder? The colour is exact same as the body.

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hemi43 · ONTARIO

Looks awesome !! I had no idea it would remove lead/solder. I seem to recall that it's "nitric acid" that's used, but might be wrong because it's been a few years. You had better get into it Pugsy, and get some epoxy on there.

123pugsy · MARKHAM, ONT

I'm into it now. I'm filing off a zillion freakin warts. It's like there was lead splattered all down the car as it was going down the assmebly line.

Did you have these blobs on your car?
Have you ever seen blobs like this before?

hemi43 · ONTARIO

123pugsy wrote:
I'm into it now. I'm filing off a zillion freakin warts. It's like there was lead splattered all down the car as it was going down the assmebly line.

Did you have these blobs on your car?
Have you ever seen blobs like this before?

Are you sure it's lead?? Is there any kind of mark on the other side of the panel where these warts are? I never had any issues after getting my car dipped, it just looked like a brand new body.

Edit;

You know what it might be!! I think they manually removed the lead before dipping by heating it and splashed some of it onto the body. I would call them, because I'm almost certain that the acid will not eat through lead. They probably do this so that the acid can remove any rust that may have been hiding under the lead.

-- Edited by hemi43 on Saturday 3rd of May 2014 02:36:44 PM

123pugsy · MARKHAM, ONT

hemi43 wrote:
123pugsy wrote:
I'm into it now. I'm filing off a zillion freakin warts. It's like there was lead splattered all down the car as it was going down the assmebly line.

Did you have these blobs on your car?
Have you ever seen blobs like this before?
Are you sure it's lead?? Is there any kind of mark on the other side of the panel where these warts are? I never had any issues after getting my car dipped, it just looked like a brand new body.

No corresponding marks inside. If it's not lead, it's molten balls of spot or arc welding.

hemi43 · ONTARIO

See my "edit" in the above post.

123pugsy · MARKHAM, ONT

hemi43 wrote:
See my "edit" in the above post.

Could be. Anyways, just got to keep filing. Not a big deal.

The bigger deal is learning how to lay down some lead before I hit it with epoxy. Since I'm in bare metal, I want to hit as many gaps as I can.

I need to redo the body seams but also the belt line from the back of the B pillar to just above the rear wheel arch. Overlapping seam that I can't weld and don't want to fill with bondo. Under the drip rail would be nice to hit as I can just see rust bleeding out from there.

hemi43 · ONTARIO

I wouldn't use lead.IMO
I would use short strand fiberglass in place of the lead. Lead was great 60 years ago, but that's all they had. I may be wrong on this so do some research. If it was me, I would try to get a coat of epoxy on as soon as possible. Any areas to be worked later on can have the epoxy removed as needed.

-- Edited by hemi43 on Saturday 3rd of May 2014 02:48:52 PM

123pugsy · MARKHAM, ONT

hemi43 wrote:
I wouldn't use lead.IMO
I would use short strand fiberglass in place of the lead. Lead was great 60 years ago, but that's all they had. I may be wrong on this so do some research. If it was me, I would try to get a coat of epoxy on as soon as possible. Any areas to be worked later on can have the epoxy removed as needed.

-- Edited by hemi43 on Saturday 3rd of May 2014 02:48:52 PM

Thanks.

I was thinking the same thing to epoxy it right away, but it's bare and nice now so figured it would be ideal to lead right away.

I think lead is actually good as the 2 spots on the car I removed before stripping had not a speck of rust underneath. This is 73 years later. I think I can get enough for my lifetime out of it.

I got the heat on out in the garage and the dehumidifier running all night, so she'll be fine. I'm using water and scotchbrite to remove the residual acid and I'm not getting any flash rust so we're looking good for now.

slab · BRANT COUNTY, ONT

I used "All Metal" to fill the 1/4 to roof seam on the Camaro project. Worked well and from what I read before I used it, it is a popular choice.
Rich

Gazoo · BADEN, ONT

I'd epoxy prime everything first. Then sandblast local areas, you believe need to be on steel, before filling.
Lead is no doubt old technology, and proven to be a health hazard, but like you mentioned, if it's sealed correctly, it will last many,many years.
But today, there is alternatives...

123pugsy · MARKHAM, ONT

A bit of lead work done on both sides. I filled the body seam as well up to the door opening.

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A shot of SPI epoxy.

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wolfman1 · ST GEORGE, ONT

Looks great Pugsy, thanks for the update

123pugsy · MARKHAM, ONT

wolfman1 wrote:
Looks great Pugsy, thanks for the update

Thanks. Now I can spot weld the floor together and weld it in.

Looking forward to getting this part buttoned up.

Schnitz · MILTON, ONT

123pugsy wrote:

That is a thing of beauty right there.

123pugsy · MARKHAM, ONT

Schnitz wrote:

That is a thing of beauty right there.

Thanks Schnitz.

JohnnyBgood · ST CATHARINES, ONT

Lead the hell out of it then grind off the excess. Very nice.....Any thoughts on finish colour?

123pugsy · MARKHAM, ONT

JohnnyBgood wrote:
Lead the hell out of it then grind off the excess. Very nice.....Any thoughts on finish colour?

Since you mention it, I've ruled out light gray since yesterday afternoon. doh disbelief bleh

Of course, red is always in the race. An off white looks good on this body style also. And I like some shades of green.

My son wants orange with flames like the one we seen on the net.

JohnnyBgood · ST CATHARINES, ONT

Candy tangerine ....Ghost flames...kids got it right.

Ninop69 · THORNHILL, ONT

Looking good, Pugsy!

123pugsy · MARKHAM, ONT

Thanks Nino.

I screwed the floor in for final check. Just need to prime a few places where the channels go and then spot weld it together.

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34guy · MISSISSAUGA, ONT

Hey Pugs

Great visit with you yesterday, car is looking great,

Some great workmanship going on right here fella's

Floors were leaning against the wall when I was there yesterday

Gonna be an awesome car when done!!!!

123pugsy · MARKHAM, ONT

Thanks Joe.

I'll take em to work Monday and hopefully come home with a fully assembled floor pan.

dodge38 · MISSISSAUGA, ONT

Jari, the floor looks great, I can't believe how well everything fits together !!

123pugsy · MARKHAM, ONT

Thanks Hannu.

I got it all spot welded and hit it with epoxy. Should be able to slide it into place tomorrow afternoon.

It's a bit wavy, but what the hey. It's only a floor pan.

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Ninop69 · THORNHILL, ONT

Great work Pugsy. I never get tired of this thread! Still inspired!

123pugsy · MARKHAM, ONT

Thanks Nino.

Got the floor welded in and hit it with epoxy.
Wahoo.....

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123pugsy · MARKHAM, ONT

A little rotisserie video.....

34guy · MISSISSAUGA, ONT

Look's great Pugs your really flying along now!!

The tunnel looks like it went together well

Will have to stop by and have a close up look

and give your wife a few more suggestions for

the new house plans, glad she likes the laundry chute plan LOL

hemi43 · ONTARIO

Rotisserie seems to run nice and smooth. Difficult part is finding the center of gravity.

Ninop69 · THORNHILL, ONT

Now I really got this see this in progress! Look good pugsy!

Lightspeed Mike · BELLEVILLE, ONT

Looks awesome Pugsy. Can't wait to see it with some color on it mounted upon on that super slick chassis you built.

123pugsy · MARKHAM, ONT

34guy wrote:
Look's great Pugs your really flying along now!!
The tunnel looks like it went together well
Will have to stop by and have a close up look
and give your wife a few more suggestions for
the new house plans, glad she likes the laundry chute plan LOL

Thanks Joe.

She loves the laundry chute idea when it comes from you.

It sucked when I suggested it, ha.

123pugsy · MARKHAM, ONT

hemi43 wrote:
Rotisserie seems to run nice and smooth. Difficult part is finding the center of gravity.

It's handy thing.

Easy to find the center of gravity. Just set the body sideways and hit the threaded rod adjuster and it will tilt as soon as you pass the center point. A bit of fine tuning after that and my kids can spin it. That is a problem there. They keep coming into the garage to play with it.

123pugsy · MARKHAM, ONT

Ninop69 wrote:
Now I really got this see this in progress! Look good pugsy!

Thanks.

Come by on the weekend Nino.

I'll be trying to line up the front clip with the new rockers so I can set it back on the chassis.

123pugsy · MARKHAM, ONT

Lightspeed Mike wrote:
Looks awesome Pugsy. Can't wait to see it with some color on it mounted upon on that super slick chassis you built.

Thanks Mike.

That may be a long time from now. This is probably the last update for a couple of years.

House project begins soon. doh

34guy · MISSISSAUGA, ONT

Pugsy's rotiessori is a thing of beauty and work's incredibly smooth

I want first dib's when your done with it LOL

janies dirty 37 · SOUTH RIVER, ONT

Thanks for continuing to post progress in this thread. Always look forward to your progress.

Not for nothing, but if Joe was a real friend..... he would build the laundry shoot so you could keep workin on this.

I'm always amazed at the talent in our "little" community. Great job Pugsy.

34guy · MISSISSAUGA, ONT

You got to be kidding if I build the laundry chute it will be

just a laundry chute. If Pug's builds the laundry chute

it will be a LAUNDRY CHUTE EXTRODINAIRE

My work pale's in comparison to pugsy's work

fatchuk · ST MARYS, ONTARIO

Unbelievable quality of workmanship..I really don't know you so I try not to say to much, but I have sure watched this fabrication and before it goes into hibernation (house project) I just wanted to say you are a very talented guy there pugsy..This is about as professional as it gets...This is riddler quality building..Geeze there are an amazing number of talented members on here ..Makes me really grateful for this forum and all the guys willing to share their skills, secrets and amazing talent..Thanks pugsy for sharing all this and even though I have not been able to get to one of your work shops I have followed all the comments from the members who have attended.. You are a great asset to this board and no Drama..although I like a little drama too it does keep one looking in each day..Thanks Pugsy..great work